PSE
The mufflers are back-ordered in the USA. I'm wondering if it's because of high demand or the result of a defective product.
Can anyone comment?
Jun 13, 2006 10:01:30 PM
Jun 14, 2006 12:10:44 AM
Jun 14, 2006 1:46:08 PM
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devo said:
I really appreciate all the feed back. Now if I can only get my hands on one. I'll probably retro-fit the short shifter as well. Neither option was available when I ordered my S in late '05.
Lukas, your car is equipped very nicely. I wish we had the 20mm/LSD option it the states.
Jun 14, 2006 6:19:05 PM
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SoCal Alan said:Quote:
devo said:
I really appreciate all the feed back. Now if I can only get my hands on one. I'll probably retro-fit the short shifter as well. Neither option was available when I ordered my S in late '05.
Lukas, your car is equipped very nicely. I wish we had the 20mm/LSD option it the states.
I did the same thing. Had both PSE and sport shifter installed. I dropped off the car at 7AM. Got a rental to drive to the nearest golf course. Played 36 holes, and came back and my car was completed.
Jun 16, 2006 8:10:06 AM
Jun 16, 2006 10:28:18 AM
Jun 16, 2006 6:27:00 PM
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Alex (UK) said:
I had 2 types of rattles, both can be heard when in stock configuration and with the hack...
First: Loud rattle when the valves in the left muffler were opening/closing. This was most noticeable in Sport (PSE on) when doing constant approx. 50mph in 3rd gear. This issue was fixed by my OPC opening up the muffler and adjusting the valves so they didn't stick when opening/closing. They tried replacing the whole muffler on warrantee but the 2nd muffler had the same issue.
Second: After fixing the first rattle I got a more general quiet rattle from the left underside of the car. This was most noticeable with Sport off (PSE off) as you could hear better. It was independent on speed or gears. This was fixed by my OPC last week, but at the weekend it came back, shortly before disappearing again this week (may have something to do with me having the always-on hack put back so drowning out the sound!)
I will take the car back at some point to get them to fix this once and for all. I don't think any of these rattles are hack related though as they are just as prevalent without it on. I had these issues from day 1 so I don't think the hack had time to cause any 'damage'.
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dnp_now said:
newbie question, have to ask. don't say "if you have to ask, you don't ...."
correct me if i'm wrong, but there is no performance differene with the pse right? So what is the point other than louder noise (and sometimes annoying for longer drives)?
by coninkydink, a f430 spider flew by me today. and the sound from the cars was...a moving orchestrial symphony. I can appreciate it, because I was away from the f430 car.
how can I appreciate the pse if i'm inside my car? and won't it annoy my neighbors or other people when i'm driving around?
can you turn it off while driving? and how much does it cost to retrofit?
thanks!
Jun 19, 2006 8:00:44 AM
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jcs said:
First, the PSE valves are not located inside the mufflers. They are located in the bypass pipes , OUTSIDE of the mufflers.
So your OPC gave you a BS line if you were told they had to "open up " the muffler to adjust the valve.
The mufflers are welded shut and you don't just cut them open ( And I doubt the average dealer has the facility to weld st. stl. mufflers)
You are correct with your second statement . If there is a rattle related to the butterfly valves, it is most likely NOT due to the "hack " ( disconnecting the pneumatic tubes or the electrical plug ) Either one just keeps the normally open valves from closing ,therefore having the bypass open all the time.
Most likely , the valve spring( which keeps the damper open )is binding somewhere,or is weak, and therefore the damper will rattle open/closed due to the exhaust gas pressures (alternating first from the muffler and then from the other exhaust pipe side)
One should keep in mind that metals , especially spring steel becomes weak fairly soon when exposed to constant extreme heating/cooling conditions.And the exhaust pipes get pretty hot. Considering the location of these valves, I am surprised they work as long as they do.
Btw: to all who have " disabled " the valve operation .
Keep in mind that the valve dampers are located inside the exhaust pipes. If left constantly in the same position , there may be enough (soot ,crud ?) accumulating around them over time to prevent them from operating again when desired .
I would occasionally let the dampers cycle open/closed to keep them working properly
(but that's just my opinion )