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This will fire you up, 997 turbo ring time of 7:42 with cup tires manual and lsd. Thats faster than the vette! Even though thats true, I posted thid just to mess with with yah.
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trip said:
This will fire you up, 997 turbo ring time of 7:42 with cup tires manual and lsd. Thats faster than the vette! Even though thats true, I posted thid just to mess with with yah.
Well, if that's true and if the Vette's time is about the same with run-flat street tires (if true), think what the Vette's time would be with Cup tires...
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trip said:
This will fire you up, 997 turbo ring time of 7:42 with cup tires manual and lsd. Thats faster than the vette! Even though thats true, I posted thid just to mess with with yah.
Well, if that's true and if the Vette's time is about the same with run-flat street tires (if true), think what the Vette's time would be with Cup tires...
From what I hear the Vette's tyres aren't ordinary run-flats and we also don't know whether the car actually HAD run-flats. There was no video of any kind posted, just a hyped-up article.
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trip said:
This will fire you up, 997 turbo ring time of 7:42 with cup tires manual and lsd. Thats faster than the vette! Even though thats true, I posted thid just to mess with with yah.
Well, if that's true and if the Vette's time is about the same with run-flat street tires (if true), think what the Vette's time would be with Cup tires...
From what I hear the Vette's tyres aren't ordinary run-flats and we also don't know whether the car actually HAD run-flats. There was no video of any kind posted, just a hyped-up article.
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AUM said:
"The car is a standard 911 Turbo, fitted with the sports option pack that adds 60Nm more to the mid-range torque, for 680Nm in total.
0-100km/h: 3.9 seconds (manual), 3.7 seconds (auto).
0-200km/h: 12.8 seconds (manual), 12.2 seconds (auto).
Nurburgring lap time: 7 minutes, 49 seconds (manual), 7 minutes, 52 seconds (auto).
Top speed: 310km/h. "
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleID=11918
To compare lap times of Tip and manual all variables (except transmission) must be the same. Porsche and Walter know that we know this. Who thinks Porsche and Walter would misrepresent the faster NBR manual times?
AUM
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Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
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RonnieC6Z said:
Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
Welcome back Ronnie...we all knew you could only read other posts for so long...before the entertainment would start again..
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RonnieC6Z said:
Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
Welcome back Ronnie...we all knew you could only read other posts for so long...before the entertainment would start again..
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
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7.52min is Gallardo's time with Corsa's. But, you can put Michelin Cups on Gallardo as well...
My guess for 997 Turbo manual(LSD) in von Saurma hands?
7.45-7.47min with Michelin Cups.
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Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
Welcome back Ronnie...we all knew you could only read other posts for so long...before the entertainment would start again..
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
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Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
Welcome back Ronnie...we all knew you could only read other posts for so long...before the entertainment would start again..
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
websters dictionary: bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily.
Do you still need to know where I went to school?
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Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
websters dictionary: bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily.
Do you still need to know where I went to school?
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RonnieC6Z said:
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
websters dictionary: bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily.
Do you still need to know where I went to school?
Well Devo what do you have to say that...
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RonnieC6Z said:
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
websters dictionary: bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily.
Do you still need to know where I went to school?
Well Devo what do you have to say that...
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RonnieC6Z said:
Thank you so much!!! I just could not refrain from bloviating on Crash's completely absurd comment!
"bloviating"; Ronnie, where did you go to school?
websters dictionary: bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily.
Do you still need to know where I went to school?
Well Devo what do you have to say that...
The fact that Ronnie has to go to the Webster's to impress us is "precisely my point"; hence if he was as intelligent as he promotes himself to be, i.e. smart (webster's), he wouldn't have to attempt to show off, i.e. like force feeding us about how good his Z is. (I found Z06 in the dictionary but it's censored.)
May 19, 2006 2:43:22 AM
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Crash said:
From what I hear the Vette's tyres aren't ordinary run-flats and we also don't know whether the car actually HAD run-flats. There was no video of any kind posted, just a hyped-up article.
May 19, 2006 3:57:28 AM
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Dock (Atlanta) said:If you change tires looking for the optimum setup, you're trying DIFFERENT kinds of tires...
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AUM said:
"The car is a standard 911 Turbo, fitted with the sports option pack that adds 60Nm more to the mid-range torque, for 680Nm in total.
0-100km/h: 3.9 seconds (manual), 3.7 seconds (auto).
0-200km/h: 12.8 seconds (manual), 12.2 seconds (auto).
Nurburgring lap time: 7 minutes, 49 seconds (manual), 7 minutes, 52 seconds (auto).
Top speed: 310km/h. "
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleID=11918
To compare lap times of Tip and manual all variables (except transmission) must be the same. Porsche and Walter know that we know this. Who thinks Porsche and Walter would misrepresent the faster NBR manual times?
AUM
I think all these numbers are just guessed from the writer, except for the 3 seconds difference between tip and manual, and probably without the sports chrono. If real (ie with SC) these numbers are a bit dissapointing.
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trip said:
This will fire you up, 997 turbo ring time of 7:42 with cup tires manual and lsd. Thats faster than the vette! Even though thats true, I posted thid just to mess with with yah.
Well, if that's true and if the Vette's time is about the same with run-flat street tires (if true), think what the Vette's time would be with Cup tires...
From what I hear the Vette's tyres aren't ordinary run-flats and we also don't know whether the car actually HAD run-flats. There was no video of any kind posted, just a hyped-up article.
Crash...you are correct on both points. Actually, the Z driven at the ring by Jan Magnuson did not have ordinary run flats... actually they had the new Goodyear Super Duper runflats, equipped ONLY for the Z with transwarp drives in each of the tires to increase speed. Wait a minute....maybe the car did not actually have runflats. Maybe Jan Magnuson just made that up.....maybe this Z had a RR fanjet engine under the hood...I mean, why not...actually, you have not seen an actual video! Just a hyped-up article! Actually.
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May 19, 2006 12:42:13 PM
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Grant said:Not necessarily. There could've been many development prototypes of the Goodyears with different treads and/or rubber compounds. The tires were developed alongside the car, so it's entirely possible that all the tires were versions of the Goodyear F1 Supercar EMT runflats.
May 19, 2006 5:11:00 PM
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Crash said:
From what I hear the Vette's tyres aren't ordinary run-flats and we also don't know whether the car actually HAD run-flats. There was no video of any kind posted, just a hyped-up article.
Correct.
Here is what Motor Trend had to say about GM's efforts at the Ring...
"Engineers switched suspension settings and changed tires many times before finding the optimum setup."
Here's my question...Why would Motor Trend report GM changed tires many times looking for the optimum setup if all the tires used were the same make?? If you change tires looking for the optimum setup, you're trying DIFFERENT kinds of tires...
May 19, 2006 5:52:10 PM
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AUM said:
The time of 7.429 achieved by Jan Magnuson was with the final production set up which included Goodyear Supercar EMT tires. Jan wrote an article about this which was published in Corvette Quarterly.
+++Can you post a direct link to this article?
AUM
May 19, 2006 6:37:41 PM
May 19, 2006 9:38:34 PM
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RonnieC6Z said: Jan wrote an article about this which was published in Corvette Quarterly.
Do you have the article? If so can you scan it and post it here?
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RonnieC6Z said: Jan wrote an article about this which was published in Corvette Quarterly.
Do you have the article? If so can you scan it and post it here?
Yes, Ronnie,
Definitely scan it. And while I'm not interested in buying a ZO6, I WILL BE tempted by the Blue Devil if/when it comes out-I love forced induction powerplants.
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