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Mar 16, 2017 9:43:47 PM

Ziggy: Expert; Loc:; Posts: 1600, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: LP997

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

LP997:
The R is more fun on road, the gearbox is a pleasure and the lightweight flywheel give a more response engine and "more" hard rev ;) The sound is different more sound in interior and a different exhaust note in exterior. This car feel more light than the RS in curve and mountain attack. I prefer the RS for track and the R for fun road ;) Porsche give a character to this car a real personality. This car is for driver like drive (seems like a 993 RS feeling)

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Great looking car and very informative write-up, thanks!

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Mar 16, 2017 10:04:39 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Ziggy

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I don't think Porsche needs mules for special edition turbos since they're arguably no different than standard turbos.

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Mar 16, 2017 10:42:19 PM

TB993tt: Rennteam Pro; Loc: manchester , United Kingdom; Posts: 2280, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 22, 2002; Reply to: noone1

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RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold. Smiley

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random mail

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Mar 17, 2017 12:07:34 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

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noone1:
I don't think Porsche needs mules for special edition turbos since they're arguably no different than standard turbos.

Tomato tomato or was it tomato tomato? Smiley Smiley

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Mar 17, 2017 6:53:07 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: TB993tt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing Smiley The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning Smiley

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Mar 17, 2017 8:30:10 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: MKSGR

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Completely agree with that. The engine issue has been lurking in the background right from the outset, with the current generation Turbo S engine maxed out, the new 992 Turbo tech not availabe yet or unsuitable for a track oriented high performance car, and lack of clarity on whether the GT3 N/A engine family is a suitable base engine for turbo charging.

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Mar 17, 2017 9:04:36 AM

TB993tt: Rennteam Pro; Loc: manchester , United Kingdom; Posts: 2280, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 22, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

Don't manufacturers usually have a number of power levels fully developed for an new engine and it is marketing which signs off the final spec ?

I was told this many years ago by one of the original chip tuners who explained the scenario above when he was tuning my then E55, he said the alternative (fully developed) tunes find their way onto the black market (via the various software engineers involved in the development) and can be purchased by people like him, he even showed me a name on the tuning file which was supposedly an AMG employee - probably all BS but feasible ?

Even so if it is 650-680hp then it must be a significantly different set up than the current Turbo S
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Mar 17, 2017 4:23:25 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: TB993tt

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TB993tt:
MKSGR:

I was told this many years ago by one of the original chip tuners who explained the scenario above when he was tuning my then E55, he said the alternative (fully developed) tunes find their way onto the black market (via the various software engineers involved in the development) and can be purchased by people like him, he even showed me a name on the tuning file which was supposedly an AMG employee - probably all BS but feasible ?

Going off topic with E55, how much did you gain and does it worth?

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Mar 17, 2017 5:18:43 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: martini964

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HP is all marketing and long-term business planning. They could give you an 800 hp 911 if they wanted, but marketing won't let them because they need to go from 600 -> 800 in 20hp increments over the next 10 years.

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Mar 17, 2017 5:48:16 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:
TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

They have different variants in development, so this wouldn't really be a problem. Up to a certain point where they have to prepare for the series production.

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Mar 17, 2017 7:56:05 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
MKSGR:
TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

They have different variants in development, so this wouldn't really be a problem. Up to a certain point where they have to prepare for the series production.

Are you kidding? The emission tests etc. alone will make it impossible (!) to change the hp output at such a late stage Smiley I am afraid this is impossible - although we would all love it to be true...

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Mar 17, 2017 8:14:24 PM

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1981, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 16, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:
RC:
MKSGR:
TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

They have different variants in development, so this wouldn't really be a problem. Up to a certain point where they have to prepare for the series production.

Are you kidding? The emission tests etc. alone will make it impossible (!) to change the hp output at such a late stage I am afraid this is impossible - although we would all love it to be true...

Emissions tests? Trump's killing the EPA, everyone in the US will be Rollin' Coal this time next year Smiley

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Mar 18, 2017 12:18:37 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: noone1

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noone1:
HP is all marketing and long-term business planning. They could give you an 800 hp 911 if they wanted, but marketing won't let them because they need to go from 600 -> 800 in 20hp increments over the next 10 years.

Totally 120% correct!!!

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Mar 18, 2017 12:19:10 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: Mithras

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Thin line. Lol.

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Mar 18, 2017 8:20:16 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Leawood911

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For US market, Porsche can just claim 900 HP, no evidence or truth required

I think there should be a GT2 first, and the RS version to be the final ultimate PDK race version of that turbo beast.

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Mar 20, 2017 9:36:28 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:
RC:
MKSGR:
TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

They have different variants in development, so this wouldn't really be a problem. Up to a certain point where they have to prepare for the series production.

Are you kidding? The emission tests etc. alone will make it impossible (!) to change the hp output at such a late stage I am afraid this is impossible - although we would all love it to be true...

Again...Porsche is testing different variants with different outputs and tech. Certification is no problem, they can do that close to the release date. The engine is the least of their problem. Smiley

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Mar 20, 2017 9:38:05 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Mithras

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Mithras:
MKSGR:
RC:
MKSGR:
TB993tt:
RC:

Today I heard a rumor that Porsche may have pushed back the GT2 RS introduction because they decided to use a different engine. I just hope that this is not just the old rumor, just retold.

I just read this in another thread...... I really wish people would stay on topic, I've wasted so much time excitedly clicking on new 991GT2 posts only to see totally irrelevant stuff and then when I take a peak in the .2GT3 thread I find the little rumour nugget above from RC, seems even he can't stick to relevant thread posting, this forum is becoming very chaotic and random

Is that realistic? To change the engine, even the specs (like upgrading from 650 to 680hp) will need a very long time for development and testing The only chance we probably have is they got it right from the beginning

They have different variants in development, so this wouldn't really be a problem. Up to a certain point where they have to prepare for the series production.

Are you kidding? The emission tests etc. alone will make it impossible (!) to change the hp output at such a late stage I am afraid this is impossible - although we would all love it to be true...

Emissions tests? Trump's killing the EPA, everyone in the US will be Rollin' Coal this time next year

Yeah and he will unleash the nuclear weapons as well...

Oh well, he didn't. Smiley Smiley

C'mon...no politics. Not even in related posts. Smiley

Back to topic: Car development isn't cheap and using different tech with different emissions for certain markets doesn't make sense at all and costs a lot of money. Meaning: No matter how laws get changed, car manufacturers will try to use the same tech for all (or most) markets. Why do you think car manufacturers were rooting for TTIP?!

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Mar 30, 2017 5:21:18 PM

Dubay: Newbie; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 28, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 11, 2009; Reply to: RC

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Mar 30, 2017 5:42:10 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Dubay

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Just looks exactly the same as all the previous models...

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Mar 30, 2017 6:03:13 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: SciFrog

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Hm, guess the openings in the front bonnet are inlets after all! :-)

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Mar 30, 2017 7:30:42 PM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: Joost

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Spectacular

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Mar 31, 2017 2:32:25 AM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: Joost

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Joost:
Hm, guess the openings in the front bonnet are inlets after all! :-)

Test drivers were getting too sweaty.... needed more air Smiley

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Mar 31, 2017 11:28:37 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: SciFrog

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SciFrog:
Just looks exactly the same as all the previous models...

Nah, it will be hailed at the most beautiful 911 GT car ever when someone pastes the press release/photos in 6 months.

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Mar 31, 2017 12:30:12 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: noone1

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Why do you have to bash every Porsche model?

You pointed clearly as a sky that you do not like or fancy any of Porsche models or its design. For you 720S is a peak in sportscar in every possible aspect. We got it.

If you want to drove members here to Mclaren worship zone you will not be successful at all.

I respect your overwhelming enthusiasm towards Mclaren. Try to be little bit democratic here and allow members to love (and even rave) about Porsche GT models.

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Mar 31, 2017 1:34:30 PM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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same goes to R8 fanatics indecision

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Mar 31, 2017 2:40:05 PM

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , France; Posts: 694, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2010; Reply to: BjoernB

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Mar 31, 2017 2:44:20 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: BjoernB

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BjoernB:
same goes to R8 fanatics

At least the Audi is part of the VAG family Smiley

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Mar 31, 2017 3:39:09 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: Whoopsy

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This thing is going to be a beast, but it looks like they hired an intern from RUF to style the new bumpers... it's all squares and circles I see!

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Mar 31, 2017 4:34:12 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
BjoernB:
same goes to R8 fanatics At least the Audi is part of the VAG family

kiss

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Mar 31, 2017 7:28:32 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: BjoernB

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BjoernB:
same goes to R8 fanatics

Eey, please refer to the R8 using its actual name... Huracán

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