Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3
derder:where can I get that t-shirt!?
Not sure if they are for sale, But here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9M0a_0rcU
derder:where can I get that t-shirt!?
Not sure if they are for sale, But here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9M0a_0rcU
derder:where can I get that t-shirt!?
Nick Murray sells them:
https://www.youtube.com/user/nickmurray22
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Whoopsy:DaveGordon:Just had a look at the new car - very nice. Rear styling/spoiler changes are pretty subtle. I prefer the new front - looks very neat. Rear diffuser is quite big and looks like it will be a 'service item'. Plastic vanes though so should be cheap.
Don't like the striped seats, but otherwise
Service item for sure!
Here is the one under my 911R after the road trip.
It is a $600 plastic part. One reason Porsche is being realistic and didn't do it in carbon like other manufacturers.
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Though not realistic enough to sell you it at a fair price. $600 plastic? Might as well be CF at that price...
nberry:If Porsche is selling every .2GT3 they make and dealer list for the car are full, will someone explain to me why they would come out with a touring option?
Bingo. Plus they would kill the high specced high margin GTS. Porsche is there to make $$, pleasing people is secondary.
SciFrog:nberry:If Porsche is selling every .2GT3 they make and dealer list for the car are full, will someone explain to me why they would come out with a touring option?
Bingo. Plus they would kill the high specced high margin GTS. Porsche is there to make $$, pleasing people is secondary.
Bingo. This includes the fabled GT3 Cabrio which would kill the high margin GTS.
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Mar 14, 2017 4:10:15 AM
Mar 14, 2017 4:20:51 AM
Leawood, pick your dealer, put your name in and wait. While waiting, scan the auto ad and you'll probably seen a couple for sale within three months. Yes, they'll be over MSRP but if you negotiate well you could get a good price.
"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
vantagesc:If it was carbon, then it would be $6k. :D
The rear diffuser on my Lotus is much bigger than that, but made of aluminum. Wears pretty nicely. The track guys won't use the fancy pre-preg carbon diffusers even though they save a decent amount of weight.
My R8's carbon rear diffusor is over 4k EUR, even aftermarket parts cost over 3k. The carbon rear wing is over 4k EUR as well, the engine carbon covers are around 5k and the front lip over 2k. Sideblades are over 1k each.
Expensive! The Porsche solution is definitely the "better"(cheaper) one, even if it is only plastic and costs "only" 600 EUR.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Supply anxiety is orchestrated to fuel not just demand but acceptance of gouging. By creating an atmosphere of "I'll never get one" buyers talk themselves into gratitude for being allowed the privilege of getting gouged just be among the lucky few. Patience is your friend, desperation your enemy. I was offered an RS allocation (still over MSRP) well beyond when everyone was told production had ceased. Same was true w/ .1 GT3, the production kept rolling well beyond when it was supposed to stop.
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DaveC:Supply anxiety is orchestrated to fuel not just demand but acceptance of gouging. By creating an atmosphere of "I'll never get one" buyers talk themselves into gratitude for being allowed the privilege of getting gouged just be among the lucky few. Patience is your friend, desperation your enemy. I was offered an RS allocation (still over MSRP) well beyond when everyone was told production had ceased. Same was true w/ .1 GT3, the production kept rolling well beyond when it was supposed to stop.
Some German Porsche dealers stopped taking GT3 orders...so... The 2017 allocation is sold out in many places and there is no 2018 allocation yet, not even sure if there is going to be one. Probably why some dealers here in Germany stopped taking in orders.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
RC:DaveC:Supply anxiety is orchestrated to fuel not just demand but acceptance of gouging. By creating an atmosphere of "I'll never get one" buyers talk themselves into gratitude for being allowed the privilege of getting gouged just be among the lucky few. Patience is your friend, desperation your enemy. I was offered an RS allocation (still over MSRP) well beyond when everyone was told production had ceased. Same was true w/ .1 GT3, the production kept rolling well beyond when it was supposed to stop.
Some German Porsche dealers stopped taking GT3 orders...so... The 2017 allocation is sold out in many places and there is no 2018 allocation yet, not even sure if there is going to be one. Probably why some dealers here in Germany stopped taking in orders.
It was expected to happen with such a product, price and demand...
DaveC:Supply anxiety is orchestrated to fuel not just demand but acceptance of gouging. By creating an atmosphere of "I'll never get one" buyers talk themselves into gratitude for being allowed the privilege of getting gouged just be among the lucky few. Patience is your friend, desperation your enemy. I was offered an RS allocation (still over MSRP) well beyond when everyone was told production had ceased. Same was true w/ .1 GT3, the production kept rolling well beyond when it was supposed to stop.
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The same applies to both the GT4 and GT3 RS which were built in far larger numbers than anyone on the Internet expected. The 991.2 GT3 demand will be met by supply.
2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White
bluelines:DaveC:Supply anxiety is orchestrated to fuel not just demand but acceptance of gouging. By creating an atmosphere of "I'll never get one" buyers talk themselves into gratitude for being allowed the privilege of getting gouged just be among the lucky few. Patience is your friend, desperation your enemy. I was offered an RS allocation (still over MSRP) well beyond when everyone was told production had ceased. Same was true w/ .1 GT3, the production kept rolling well beyond when it was supposed to stop.
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The same applies to both the GT4 and GT3 RS which were built in far larger numbers than anyone on the Internet expected. The 991.2 GT3 demand will be met by supply.
The problem is that Porsche can only build a certain number of cars and dealers get only a certain number of allocations. Once they exceed the build capacity and/or allocations...game over. Yes, I am pretty sure that there are going to be 2018 allocations as well but the 2017 allocations are basically (almost) gone according to rumors and if the 2018 allocations are limited, well...
I'm not saying you're not right but whoever really wants one, should take care of that now and not wait.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Without relying on rumours about filled allocations and limited production numbers I believe it is safe to say that this will be the most produced GT3 in the history of all GT3s. Add to that a possible touring version which will attract new customers. Porsche is in the business of selling cars and the GT3 is their "bread and butter" motorsport model. It would be pointless to make it limited and not meet the demand. Such exercises are left to cars like the R.
2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White
I think the 10% price increase was intended to make demand limited more or less to their maximum production volume - we'll see if they were right...
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
bluelines:Without relying on rumours about filled allocations and limited production numbers I believe it is safe to say that this will be the most produced GT3 in the history of all GT3s. Add to that a possible touring version which will attract new customers. Porsche is in the business of selling cars and the GT3 is their "bread and butter" motorsport model. It would be pointless to make it limited and not meet the demand. Such exercises are left to cars like the R.
When I mean rumor, I say rumor. I can talk about the German market only. Different countries, different availabilities and allocations but from my experience, Germany gets always the "best" allocations (even if Porsche may tell other regions a different story ).
Production is limited by demand and production time frame only. True. However, they cannot produce endless cars in that particular time frame. This is a problem. Also, a small supplier chain issue (quality, production delay, whatever) can already reduce the number of produced cars.
So if people want one, they should hurry. This is all I'm saying. If Porsche wakes up that they can sell more GT2 RS than GT3 (which is very unlikely but people have money and you never know...), they could switch production capacities to the more profitable car. Just saying...too many uncertainties and I don't want people to pay a premium for a car which isn't actually a limited special edition. This is however, in my opinion, the most desirable modern GT3 ever.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Mar 14, 2017 2:20:57 PM
Agree. See the DriveTribe interview with Preuninger / Jethro B. They are gonna increase capacity here and explicitly acknowledge they are in the business of making cars not supporting speculation / wealth increase / maintaining values. I have not seen the raw data but understand from a friend with a "R" that Porsche produced over 6000 991.1 GT3 RS's. Have to think a lot of the froth around the GT3.2 is from speculators thinking this is a sure fire way to make a "fifty" or a "hundo" (choose your currency) flipping it, a somewhat risking game I would suggest
Mar 14, 2017 4:18:43 PM
RC,
just got some intital feedback'for m'y allocation, and i cross checked through 2 sources : the first delivery expected are ......for October !
this is just ridiculous , it means that the car will arrive during winter time, and there is no rationale to get in 2017 !
I m really disappointed, as I wanted to pay for a new one, but to get the car during summer time !
really bad news .... are you getting the same message ?
thks
thierry
997 Carrera S Triple Black Sold now ... Good car 997 GT3 triple black wow what a car !!!
That's somewhat puzzling. Usually Europe and the ROW get their cars produced in May, June and July if not sooner. September/October build dates usually go to North America. That was how the .1GT3 was rolled out.
I think your dealer may have been misinformed.
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