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Apr 29, 2006 2:19:36 PM

vtrader: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles; Posts: 1086, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 6, 2004

Who needs a Prius?

I went driving late Friday night and since there were many CHP officers on the road, I decided to use the cruise control for the first time to regulate my speed. So I put the car in 6th gear and set the cruise control to 67 mph (speed limit here is 65 mph). Too my amazement, I was getting a constant 30.8 mpg! I have never ever gotten better than 19 mpg on the car before. So at this mpg rate, who needs a Prius? Last night, I was getting better gas mileage than my daily Audi A3.

And the cruise control served it purpose, I was passed by two CHP patrol cars.

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Apr 29, 2006 2:49:40 PM

yarub1: Pilot; Loc: Riyadh , Saudi Arabia; Posts: 417, Gallery; Registered on: May 31, 2004; Reply to: vtrader

Re: Who needs a Prius?

I recently drove my car for a 1000KM round trip. I found out that at a constant 120KM/H the fuel consumption is good, but if you increase you speed to +160KM/H then the car becomes a black-hole sucking up fuel at an incredible rate.

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Apr 29, 2006 3:27:36 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: yarub1

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I've been beating the cr*p outta my car and, seemingly, I have been getting 20 mpg (by measuring at the pump, didn't check what the OBC sez). Could THAT be true? if so it's rather impressive.

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Apr 29, 2006 7:40:41 PM

Trundle_GT3: Veteran; Loc: CA, USA; Posts: 1016, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2003; Reply to: MMD

Re: Who needs a Prius?

997S
A gas sipper

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Apr 29, 2006 11:32:39 PM

Dasein: Veteran; Loc: Mountains of western NC, USA , United States; Posts: 933, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2005; Reply to: Trundle_GT3

Re: Who needs a Prius?

I'm getting 20 to 22 mpg with a Cab and Tip and on twisty 2 lane mountain roads so I'm pretty pleased. Did anyone see the "South Park" episode where they called them not Prius but PIOUS?

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Apr 30, 2006 12:06:51 AM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: vtrader

Re: Who needs a Prius?

I am impressed!

The 360/430's do not have cruise control ( I am not sure about the V12's). Do you think Ferrari is sending a message by not providing cruise control?

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Apr 30, 2006 7:08:58 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: nberry

Re: Who needs a Prius?

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nberry said:
I am impressed!

The 360/430's do not have cruise control ( I am not sure about the V12's). Do you think Ferrari is sending a message by not providing cruise control?

Yes. "It doesn't matter whether it has it or not. It will still suck up gas faster than a fat guy sucking up hamburgers at Burger king".

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Apr 30, 2006 7:12:39 PM

john999s: Senior; Loc: Hessen, Germany , Germany; Posts: 630, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 10, 2005; Reply to: Crash

Re: Who needs a Prius?

Rarely see better than 20 and never more than 22 to the gallon. Imperial gallon....

Must be doing something wrong

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Apr 30, 2006 8:05:53 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: nberry

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nberry said:
I am impressed!

The 360/430's do not have cruise control ( I am not sure about the V12's). Do you think Ferrari is sending a message by not providing cruise control?

Yes. They're saying they don't expect anyone to drive far enough to need cruise control.

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Apr 30, 2006 8:23:19 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: Dasein

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BudWeiser said:
Did anyone see the "South Park" episode where they called them not Prius but PIOUS?

My contact in Toyoda-shi tells me they are going to rename the face-lift version "Holier than thou".

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Apr 30, 2006 9:33:11 PM

stork: Junior; Loc: OH and NC; Posts: 145, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: nberry

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I think Ferrari is taking a purist stance. Does a true sports car need cruise control? Ferrari says no and I think traditionally Porsche has said the same thing. Today the cars are more concerned about creature comforts Reality suggests that Porsches have become a sports car to drive and thus a cruise control is a real world featurs. Many years ago 911 rarely had power seats as pure sports car did not need them. Even today, they do not come standard with power seats, but how many people order 997 for $80-110+ without power seats. More too the point, the 997 engine is very well engineered to perform and yet still get great mpg. Even more interesting is the new Z06 Corevette. Is has HUGE HP and very good MPG and no gas guzzler tax. Does Ferrari offer an option of cruise control on any car? How about cup holders? PS thank you Nberry for being impressed!

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Apr 30, 2006 11:40:18 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: stork

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stork said:
I think Ferrari is taking a purist stance. Does a true sports car need cruise control? Ferrari says no and I think traditionally Porsche has said the same thing. Today the cars are more concerned about creature comforts Reality suggests that Porsches have become a sports car to drive and thus a cruise control is a real world featurs. Many years ago 911 rarely had power seats as pure sports car did not need them. Even today, they do not come standard with power seats, but how many people order 997 for $80-110+ without power seats. More too the point, the 997 engine is very well engineered to perform and yet still get great mpg. Even more interesting is the new Z06 Corevette. Is has HUGE HP and very good MPG and no gas guzzler tax. Does Ferrari offer an option of cruise control on any car? How about cup holders? PS thank you Nberry for being impressed!

Good points.

I do not believe any Ferrari has cruise control. They cater to a very select purist group. The car is not meant to do grocery shopping (although I have and do), drive to work (I will nor do) or for family outings.

It is designed to be a blissful sanctuary and fits the bill beautifully. In no way is the Ferrari an all around car like a Porsche.

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Apr 30, 2006 11:44:40 PM

Derf: Junior; Loc: Los Angeles; Posts: 138, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 18, 2005; Reply to: Dasein

Re: Who needs a Prius?

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BudWeiser said:
I'm getting 20 to 22 mpg with a Cab and Tip and on twisty 2 lane mountain roads so I'm pretty pleased. Did anyone see the "South Park" episode where they called them not Prius but PIOUS?

That episode was hilarious. Smug Alert!

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May 1, 2006 12:45:17 AM

Flashman: Co-Pilot; Loc: USA North Carolina , United States; Posts: 252, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2004; Reply to: nberry

Re: Who needs a Prius?

A friend has a 575M and Im sure it has cruise control - will check.

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May 1, 2006 8:09:39 AM

Justin: Veteran; Loc: San Diego, CA, USA; Posts: 979, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2003; Reply to: stork

Re: Who needs a Prius?

The Corvette engine is perhaps more efficient that its displacement would suggest. Not only is it relatively economic on fuel, but also on space and weight. It may be lighter than the 997 Turbo engine, when all the piping and intercoolers are taken into account. Power per liter of displacement thus becomes irrelevant.

It will be interesting to see how the upcoming 2008 Lotus Esprit fits into the "purist" stance.

- Justin

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