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JimFlat6 said:
RC, you may have taken it wrong or misunderstood.
Consumer products, not industrial. Of the ones you name
few if any of their goods are actually made In Germany.
Brand HQ might be there, production is not.
Let me know where they sell German made Leicas, German made Addidas shoes, German made Bosch Power tools or German made Zeiss consumer optics. Most german optics are now made in Portugal and Singapore and Japan. T mobile phones are made in China and Korea.
I know that I can get a German car that is made in Germany amd,maybe some Bayer Aspirin, but
Shoes, optics, power tools, radios, no.
And you might want to update that list- Heckler and Koch is now owned by BAE and Smith and Wesson USA owns Carl Walther.
1. I named all major players who also offer CONSUMER goods (you named some of them), I would have spent a few days to write down all consumer goods brands in detail.
2. Heckler & Koch isn't owned by BAE anymore since 2002, the owner has changed again in a company named H&K Beteiligungs GmbH which takes care of the military products. The "civil" products like for example handguns and certain rifles are manufactured/sold now by HKJS, another german company.
The Carl Walther company is NOT owned by S&W, it is a german company. S&W is just a legal distributor of Walther weapons for the US market. Please don't post such BS. I own myself two P99 QA.
Regarding cars: I doubt that even 50% of a Porsche is made of Made in Germany parts, not talking about other german car brands. Your post regarding german consumer products didn't say anything about where the products are made, you just said that Germany is known for cars only. Well, I'm afraid Adidas, Bosch, etc. count too, even if the factories are somewhere else. Judging by your words, almost all US consumer products are made in China and Taiwan.
Jim, don't get me wrong: I wasn't born in Germany and my roots aren't 100% German either, so I'm not a patriot for god's sake. But your post actually showed why SOME Americans are viewed like they're viewed worldwide because sometimes they don't have a clue. Of course there are enough Germans who don't have a clue about America but thats a different story.
My point is: try to think GLOBAL. Which US products are 100% made in the US? Steaks?
Even a lot of Hollywood movies are made outside of the US due to cost and other reasons.
I'm sorry but your comment regarding Germany and cars was pretty dumb if I may say so. If you would have said that Germans had a dark past and that we almost destroyed half of Europe, I wouldn't have said anything, I would have even agreed. But apparently the US is so big that some people over there seem to have difficulties to look what is happening outside. Best example: US news. One hour of who killed who in Miami but maybe one minute of international news, mostly so short, that nobody actually understands what it is all about. Or if I watch Fox News (especially Billy Boy), I get a headache because 90% is almost the contrary what you hear and see on other news stations and networks in Europe. And I'm not talking about those who may be anti-US.
Bottom line: I love the US and I always felt connected to the American Way of Life. I love visiting the US and I also love most of the people I meet there, lots of them are very friendly and helpful, of course with the typical exceptions.
But sometimes people like you make it really difficult for me, honestly...
Oh btw: do you know where the MP3 technology is coming from? Probably not as important as swiss cheese I guess. 
