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Need to see more Meteor Grey photos
I'm thinking Meteor Grey with:
Black Interior (with all the Alcantara)
Yellow Seat Belts
A few tasteful carbon bits...nothing too OTT
PCCBs
Wheels painted to match body color (I'm not a huge fan of painted wheels except on medium grey cars) I did this on my Seal Grey Boxster 3.6 and it was a stunning look.
Oh and Euro delivery of course.
I was pretty set on white but the few photos of (what I think is) Meteor Grey area really causing me to reconsider.
Black Interior (with all the Alcantara)
Yellow Seat Belts
A few tasteful carbon bits...nothing too OTT
PCCBs
Wheels painted to match body color (I'm not a huge fan of painted wheels except on medium grey cars) I did this on my Seal Grey Boxster 3.6 and it was a stunning look.
Oh and Euro delivery of course.
I was pretty set on white but the few photos of (what I think is) Meteor Grey area really causing me to reconsider.
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AJBoston said:
I'm thinking Meteor Grey with:
Black Interior (with all the Alcantara)
Yellow Seat Belts
A few tasteful carbon bits...nothing too OTT
PCCBs
Wheels painted to match body color (I'm not a huge fan of painted wheels except on medium grey cars) I did this on my Seal Grey Boxster 3.6 and it was a stunning look.
Oh and Euro delivery of course.
I was pretty set on white but the few photos of (what I think is) Meteor Grey area really causing me to reconsider.
Coooorrr ,, I will print your spec post ...
Awesome , thanks
..throt...
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We really need someone to get it scanned.
The basic point of the article was to say that it is an evolutionary GT3 with a bit more road comfort and maybe a little less edginess or sportiness. It is if you are familiar with a 996 GT3 a better road car but not necessarily a better track car.
The understeer etc can be dialled out by a specialist so don't worry about that but if you are buying this car for a lot of track work it would appear to be less fun than its predecessor.
The basic point of the article was to say that it is an evolutionary GT3 with a bit more road comfort and maybe a little less edginess or sportiness. It is if you are familiar with a 996 GT3 a better road car but not necessarily a better track car.
The understeer etc can be dialled out by a specialist so don't worry about that but if you are buying this car for a lot of track work it would appear to be less fun than its predecessor.
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Here is another comment on understeer - this time from C/D magazine. Although here they blame themselves rather than the car:
"On the track, of course, is where the GT3 shines. At first, we thought there was noticeable understeer through some lower-speed sweepers, but it turns out we hadn't started trusting the massive grip of the rear tires yet. Blasting out of a corner, the GT3 has shocking traction - its 415 hp scorches the ground. If you push too hard, the tires break away predictably, and the GT3 is never scary - no amount of experimentation with jumping off the throttle could get the rear end to come around."
I would appreciate any perspective on this from the experts here. Is understeer an issue or not do you think?
"On the track, of course, is where the GT3 shines. At first, we thought there was noticeable understeer through some lower-speed sweepers, but it turns out we hadn't started trusting the massive grip of the rear tires yet. Blasting out of a corner, the GT3 has shocking traction - its 415 hp scorches the ground. If you push too hard, the tires break away predictably, and the GT3 is never scary - no amount of experimentation with jumping off the throttle could get the rear end to come around."
I would appreciate any perspective on this from the experts here. Is understeer an issue or not do you think?
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JJBlade said:
The understeer etc can be dialled out by a specialist so don't worry about that but if you are buying this car for a lot of track work it would appear to be less fun than its predecessor.
I see. But I want it to be great right out of the box. For me that's the point of buying a GT3 over some less costly cars...
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Erik said:
Don't be worried about the "understeer" comments. In the 996 GT3, if you drive it like a boulevard cruiser, yes it will understeer. However, if you drive it hard and work the weight distribution in your favor, you have no such gripes.
dead on
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JJBlade said:
The understeer etc can be dialled out by a specialist so don't worry about that but if you are buying this car for a lot of track work it would appear to be less fun than its predecessor.
I see. But I want it to be great right out of the box. For me that's the point of buying a GT3 over some less costly cars...
Guys - The GT3 comes with adjustable front and rear swaybars, so any balance (in fifteen combinations) can be achieved from understeer to oversteer just by using a few simple hand tools in a few minutes...
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JJBlade said:
The understeer etc can be dialled out by a specialist so don't worry about that but if you are buying this car for a lot of track work it would appear to be less fun than its predecessor.
I see. But I want it to be great right out of the box. For me that's the point of buying a GT3 over some less costly cars...
Guys - The GT3 comes with adjustable front and rear swaybars, so any balance (in fifteen combinations) can be achieved from understeer to oversteer just by using a few simple hand tools in a few minutes...
Ahhh. Relief. It will be perfect then.
Thanks Grant.
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Erik said:
Don't be worried about the "understeer" comments. In the 996 GT3, if you drive it like a boulevard cruiser, yes it will understeer. However, if you drive it hard and work the weight distribution in your favor, you have no such gripes.
Mark Hales who wrote the 'understeer comment' can drive well and straight out of the box this car will understeer in slow speed corners. Porsche have admitted that this car has been set up specifically to do that (ie even more so than the 996)
Of course that can be rectified by changing the suspension setup but I bet your average buyer is not going to attempt that without specialist help.
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I read the article today, but I'll just amplify some of the comments already posted.
With respect to the comments on understeer, the author commented that default setup of the car out of the factory is a little bit more tailored to road use, however the article does mention, as other have here, the adjustability of the suspension to suit the requirements of the driver.
The overall impression that I got from the article was that the car was better allround, and that some of the improvements at least, make the journey to the track a little more comfortable, and the car easier to live with in the long term.
With respect to the comments on understeer, the author commented that default setup of the car out of the factory is a little bit more tailored to road use, however the article does mention, as other have here, the adjustability of the suspension to suit the requirements of the driver.
The overall impression that I got from the article was that the car was better allround, and that some of the improvements at least, make the journey to the track a little more comfortable, and the car easier to live with in the long term.
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I can open all pages of the article but the first, which delivers the following messagae !!!!
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JJBlade said:Of course that can be rectified by changing the suspension setup but I bet your average buyer is not going to attempt that without specialist help.
This is no different than the MkI or MkII version of the GT3 and if you look at this and other boards, you'll see that people commonly and easily change their swaybar settings without the help of anyone other than a socket wrench...
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JJBlade said:Of course that can be rectified by changing the suspension setup but I bet your average buyer is not going to attempt that without specialist help.
This is no different than the MkI or MkII version of the GT3 and if you look at this and other boards, you'll see that people commonly and easily change their swaybar settings without the help of anyone other than a socket wrench...
Grant - would you mind educating me about this? I owned a 993 4S before, but I never got tecnically involved in it (unfortunately). With the 997 GT3 I am planning to change that! So, regarding this adjustment - what is it? Is it unique to the GT3, how does it work to add or dial out understeer? Many thanks!!
JFT
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JJBlade said:Of course that can be rectified by changing the suspension setup but I bet your average buyer is not going to attempt that without specialist help.
This is no different than the MkI or MkII version of the GT3 and if you look at this and other boards, you'll see that people commonly and easily change their swaybar settings without the help of anyone other than a socket wrench...
Grant - would you mind educating me about this? I owned a 993 4S before, but I never got tecnically involved in it (unfortunately). With the 997 GT3 I am planning to change that! So, regarding this adjustment - what is it? Is it unique to the GT3, how does it work to add or dial out understeer? Many thanks!!
JFT
Sure, the swaybars are just long metal tubes that bend like springs. They have holes in the end where they attach to drop links (near each wheel). You just change which hole in the swaybar that the drop link attaches to to make the spring effectively longer (softer) or shorter (firmer).
In general, if you want to change the handling at the entry of a corner, change the front bar (softer for more oversteer, firmer for more understeer). If you want to change the handling at the exit of a corner, change the rear bar (softer for more understeer, firmer for more oversteer). The GT3 has 4 holes in each end of one bar (can't remember if front or rear) and 5 in the other for a total of 20 combinations.
I'll try to attach a photo later, but you can do a google search on Porsche GT3 adjustable swaybars and you'll probably find one...
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Grant said:
In general, if you want to change the handling at the entry of a corner, change the front bar (softer for more oversteer, firmer for more understeer). If you want to change the handling at the exit of a corner, change the rear bar (softer for more understeer, firmer for more oversteer). The GT3 has 4 holes in each end of one bar (can't remember if front or rear) and 5 in the other for a total of 20 combinations.
I'll try to attach a photo later, but you can do a google search on Porsche GT3 adjustable swaybars and you'll probably find one...
The front sway-bar has 5 holes, and the rear bar on the 997 GT3 has 3 holes. (The 996 GT3 rear sway bar had 4 holes, as Grant described above).
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