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dsts6 said:
http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=7006&categoryId=21
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0two9 said:
the fisker coachbuild uses a mercedes sl for it's body and then just changes certain things. The coupe version uses a 6 series. Fisker Coachbuild cars are crap imo.
This car looks to be bmw's answer to the big roadster that every car maker puts out these days (the cadillac XL).. the Mercedes SL and the lexus SC. Bmw has a small roadster... it's time to get bigger. (the z8 is a one time car... and it still is amazing, but having multiple z8's would be ridiculous, meaning a like of Z8's.. like the mercedes sl). One time for the z8 is good enough, but if that's what their doing I DOOOO want to see it.
I wonder if Bangle worked secretly on the design team for the new S550 or LS460.
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0two9 said:
I think it is crap. I know who fisker is and he has done AMAZING work...- the z8, the aston martin db9--- HOWEVER.... he is using someon elses innovation in order to basically tune his own version of what he believes is a car. I don't think that is innovation, I think that is being cheap (I know he is starting out.. but stilll.. if someone must spend over 150k...for a car- they need something unique and made originally for what it is supposed to do.)
Example---- I consider RUF different and an ACCEPTABLE car that is different than a porsche. It is (imo) a porsche tuner, but they go NUTS with the deal. They take apart the car and then do everything different--- but they still SAY that the car that they use as a base is a porsche- what they come out with is BETTER than a porsche- it's a work of art.
One can't say that about a fisker or a Zagota (IMO). A Zigato is a work of art but it's also a different bodied and RESPECTED tuner that makes an extremely unique version of a car- be it aston's or whatever.
Fisker needs to do what SALEEN did- MAKE HIS OWN CAR. I didn't really respect Saleen cars until he made his own S7- not based on anything but HIS DREAM- no parts from anywhere else- the motor is souped up, but the car and everything else is original. That seperates Saleen from MANY builders IMO.
If fisker wants to be a real car builder- he needs to design and build his OWN car from scratch. Not use another car and then change it .. that's tuning. One can tell that the body of an Sl or a 6 series is used for the convertible and coupes- that does nothing for me. Slapping on a changed body (but still using a the basic design of another company's work) and then upgrading everything else is NOT UNIQUE- it's rice imo.
Take for example Spyker... Can anyone tell me that the car looks like any other car on the road? (of course not) it's designed to be what it is and nothing else...
Moreover- no one here's of AC Schnitzer designing a car and calling it it's own. AC knows where it's bread is buttered and understands THAT even if it changes nearly all of the elements of a BMW.... it is still A BMW. The same goes with Fisker. You can put big wheels, big brakes, add some carbon fiber, change the grill work, put in some better seat, change the labels, and hook up the suspension--- but at the end of the day- you wouldn't have a car if ANOTHER company didn't make it in the first place.
Apr 9, 2006 9:58:23 AM
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