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26.12.2015 06:42:28

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Deutschland; Beiträge: 9448, Gallery; Registriert: 08.04.2002; Antwort auf: Leawood911

Re: 911 R

Leawood911:
I guess I must be on Porsches black list because every time I have been in a showroom during my 35 years of driving Porsches they have treated me like shit. Never even offered me a test drive or talked to me. No doubt I know more about the cars than the sales dude so who cares. It does not bother me though since I would never buy one new. Way too expensive and I'm way too cheap. I guess they know guys like me are not customers we are drivers. That's okay with me.

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Somehow I know exactly what you are talking about (and our family had couple of new cars).

How did my friend (which also is a frequent new car buyer) say lately "they give me more shit than an mid-size town generated in the last year. The arrogance-factor must be key-capability of the job profile". Smiley

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26.12.2015 12:25:04

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Schweden; Beiträge: 1819, Gallery; Registriert: 18.06.2015; Antwort auf: Lars997

Re: 911 R

Had a very good experience (Maybe 1995) on my way to Cupertino, CA. I do not remember exactly where this was but we where a couple of guys, dressed not too good, going from San Fransisco to Apple HQ in Cupertino when we passed a car dealer and I saw that they had a BMW M1 (The original one) on display. We had to stop there for a closer look - The M1 was my favorite car at that time.
We entered the dealership feeling kind of out on deep water. I think they where specialized in European Exotics, remember that they also had som Lambos but my main interest was the M1.

An older fellow approached us and asked us I we needed any help. I said no and that we just was passing by and had stop to look at this amazing car. He was very polite and told us some details about the car. Think he mentioned that the M1 never as imported to the US and that this car was privately imported.

I was so impressed with the way he took care of us, young, not exactly rich guys and obviously not there to by a car.
But he knew probably that we might come back sometime in the future - maybe not dressed better but with money in the pocket...

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26.12.2015 13:01:01

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14189, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: Kobalt

Re: 911 R

...as you were close to Apple HQ , he might of been accustomed to people looking like bums but with pockets full of money and thought you might be some of there rich gueks indecision

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26.12.2015 13:08:29

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Schweden; Beiträge: 1819, Gallery; Registriert: 18.06.2015; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: 911 R

Gnil:
...as you were close to Apple HQ , he might of been accustomed to people looking like bums but with pockets full of money and thought you might be some of there rich gueks

I suppose so - he might have done some mistakes with other bums :)

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26.12.2015 14:21:21

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 6924, Gallery; Registriert: 29.08.2006; Antwort auf: Kobalt

Re: 911 R

Never had that issue with any other dealer. Just the one here in KC. I was even friends with the son of the owner of the dealership a long time ago. They are just a special type of business dumb. Not a clue what customer service is.

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26.12.2015 16:16:27

rfakhri: Junior; Loc: Bahrain , Bahrain; Beiträge: 133, Gallery; Registriert: 21.06.2003; Antwort auf: Leawood911

Re: 911 R

Will the 911R be an MK I or MK ll?

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26.12.2015 20:21:25

DaveGordon: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Zürich , Schweiz; Beiträge: 2774, Gallery; Registriert: 20.08.2007; Antwort auf: rfakhri

Re: 911 R

I always make an effort to dress down for the dealer too indecision

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26.12.2015 23:22:07

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 945, Gallery; Registriert: 03.12.2003; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 911 R

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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27.12.2015 00:05:48

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: rfakhri

Re: 911 R

rfakhri:
Will the 911R be an MK I or MK ll?

Since the MkII is already presented, it would be strange to introduce a MkI model at a later time...

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27.12.2015 15:26:45

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 2491, Gallery; Registriert: 22.11.2002; Antwort auf: Kobalt

Re: 911 R

Kobalt:
Had a very good experience (Maybe 1995) on my way to Cupertino, CA. I do not remember exactly where this was but we where a couple of guys, dressed not too good, going from San Fransisco to Apple HQ in Cupertino when we passed a car dealer and I saw that they had a BMW M1 (The original one) on display. We had to stop there for a closer look - The M1 was my favorite car at that time.
We entered the dealership feeling kind of out on deep water. I think they where specialized in European Exotics, remember that they also had som Lambos but my main interest was the M1.

An older fellow approached us and asked us I we needed any help. I said no and that we just was passing by and had stop to look at this amazing car. He was very polite and told us some details about the car. Think he mentioned that the M1 never as imported to the US and that this car was privately imported.

I was so impressed with the way he took care of us, young, not exactly rich guys and obviously not there to by a car.
But he knew probably that we might come back sometime in the future - maybe not dressed better but with money in the pocket...

here in Silicon Valley, guys go from borrowing money to buy gas to having enough pocket change to buy a Ferrari GTO or a Picasso , overnight...so sales guys of enthusiast sports cars could care less how you look ....but in couple introductory exchanges they can quickly separate out a rising venture backed techie grad from the usual " big three " of Stanford, Carnegie Mellon or MIT from a clerk at a sporting goods store who spends all his earnings on a used WRX while still living at home with his mother ! Sure , he is an enthusiast , but a sales guy has to put food on his table , blah, blah .

also , many preowned sports car stores as referenced above are run by a car nut type always present owner who is looking to talk cars with anyone , esp since their floor traffic is so low . A Porsche dealership, with sales managers closely monitoring the effciency of their sales guys trying to separate the wheat fron the chafe on a busy spring Saturday presents a predictably different " experience " if you just wanna browse and " shoot the breeze " and have no intention of financial ability now or in the future to be a customer ...just go in on a rainy Wednesday 10 am in a mid winter month and you will have all of everyone's time and attn !

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28.12.2015 10:41:02

DJM48: Expert; Loc: Australia , Australien; Beiträge: 1728, Gallery; Registriert: 16.12.2015; Antwort auf: MKW

Re: 911 R

Hi

Need the assistance of the Rennteam knowledge base please.

German news website have recently published this article, describing the vehicle as a 911R.

http://www.autobild.de/videos/video-porsche-911r-2016-8445755.html

Regret not being technically minded enough to edit out brief and annoying ad up front.

Has similar but not identical plates to this image first posted a few months ago. Major difference that jumps out at me in the video link above is the 991.2 engine air intake - not horizontal 991.1 style like the earlier mule.

Thoughts (and apologies if i am missing something obvious!)

DJM

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28.12.2015 11:18:04

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italien; Beiträge: 4084, Gallery; Registriert: 07.04.2002; Antwort auf: DJM48

Re: 911 R

It has also a MK2 tailights,But i think is a Photoshop,non a real picture.

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28.12.2015 11:40:50

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , Frankreich; Beiträge: 694, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2010; Antwort auf: Super Darius

Re: 911 R

photoshop for sure :)

Enjoy to see you Darius on the RS owners facebook group :)

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28.12.2015 14:41:00

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14189, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: 911 R

LP997:
photoshop for sure :)

Enjoy to see you Darius on the RS owners facebook group :)

Where is that ? I saw a threat on another forum mentioning this , but did not look into it . But if you guys are on it, them I might be tempted to join also !

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28.12.2015 14:52:52

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , Frankreich; Beiträge: 694, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2010; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: 911 R

Gnil:
LP997:
photoshop for sure :)

Enjoy to see you Darius on the RS owners facebook group :)

Where is that ? I saw a threat on another forum mentioning this , but did not look into it . But if you guys are on it, them I might be tempted to join also !

Here Gnil kiss : https://www.facebook.com/groups/gt3owners/?fref=ts

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997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS

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28.12.2015 15:56:52

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italien; Beiträge: 4084, Gallery; Registriert: 07.04.2002; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: 911 R

Eric,we wait you indecision

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997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

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28.12.2015 17:47:48

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 5587, Gallery; Registriert: 20.11.2009; Antwort auf: Super Darius

Re: 911 R

I'd expect MKI honestly. Would be weird to have an MKII car based on MKI stuff. Isn't the 911 R an MKI GT3 more or less?

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28.12.2015 17:56:23

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14189, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: 911 R

LP997:
Gnil:
LP997:
photoshop for sure :)

Enjoy to see you Darius on the RS owners facebook group :)

Where is that ? I saw a threat on another forum mentioning this , but did not look into it . But if you guys are on it, them I might be tempted to join also !

Here Gnil : https://www.facebook.com/groups/gt3owners/?fref=ts

Thanks. I made a request to join .... But nothing indicates in my profile that I own an RS. I easely could be rejected. Just like at the dealers Smiley

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28.12.2015 17:56:26

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: noone1

Re: 911 R

noone1:
I'd expect MKI honestly. Would be weird to have an MKII car based on MKI stuff. Isn't the 911 R an MKI GT3 more or less?

Not necessarily. Could share some important things with MKII (aside from body cosmetics), like manual gearbox and uprated motor.

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16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

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29.12.2015 08:29:43

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 911 R

Whoopsy:
Funny thing, I used to visit dealers in sneakers and sweaters, hoodies. Most don't even see me.

One time I did a visit in the 918, wear ripped 501s and a torn t, a baseball cap. What a difference.

Salesman everywhere are cut from the same cloth.

Only thing I can say to them is eat shit.

Smiley At my dealership, half of the customers are like me, wearing jeans and casual stuff but the sales persons are always wearing a suit and a tie. I have to admit that I can related much better to people who are dressed like me but apparently there is some sort of a dress code at Porsche dealerships (so called CI may have something to do with it), so... Smiley

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29.12.2015 11:06:35

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14189, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: RC

Re: 911 R

Sales persons at my OPC do not wear ties. I would find that too much. They wear a nice shirt and pants and sometimes a jacket or a jumper over the shirt. They look clean , neat , modern and not too formal , which is perfect .

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964 Carrera 4 / 997.2 C2 , -20mm / 991 GT3 RS

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30.12.2015 09:07:13

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: 911 R

Gnil:
Sales persons at my OPC do not wear ties. I would find that too much. They wear a nice shirt and pants and sometimes a jacket or a jumper over the shirt. They look clean , neat , modern and not too formal , which is perfect .

Smiley

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

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30.12.2015 18:57:27

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14189, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: RC

Re: 911 R

So who is getting an R ? LP997 is on the list. But who else ? Whoopsy probably.

I mentioned a long time ago to my dealer that I will be interested for one when they become available.

Then I talked to him once more , but quite informally as I thought I would never be able to get an allocation anyway. I know one client at my dealer who was interested and he would get full priority. So , I did not push and put it aside.

But now I am getting second thoughts. Maybe I should of made a big deal out of it and I would of had a chance ?

the car would actually. Be perfect to drive around . Stealth and all the Motorsport parts I like + at the moment I am full in love with manual shifting again.

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30.12.2015 19:36:24

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: 911 R

I'm on list - but highly unlikely to get one...

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31.12.2015 10:11:51

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italien; Beiträge: 1051, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2005; Antwort auf: Grant

Re: 911 R

i am on the list too but the reality is that i don't think I will get one (at list price).

There is an unprecedented level of interest towards this 911 and very few will be made.

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31.12.2015 16:02:11

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: m4ever

Re: 911 R

A lot of the interest are from speculators, and probably not even all of the 918 owners will get one. From what I understands, Porsche is vetting potential buyers.

The running joke right now is that Porsche is using the recalled and remanufactured GT3 engines in this car and that's why it's numbers are limited, limited by the number of engines they got back. It's a great way to save money for VAG, instead of writing off millions they turned that into more profit

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01.01.2016 16:54:47

spudgun: Veteran; Loc: Belgium , Belgien; Beiträge: 1214, Gallery; Registriert: 08.11.2006; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 911 R

Could this be true?

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01.01.2016 17:12:22

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Vereinigtes Königreich; Beiträge: 4206, Gallery; Registriert: 16.12.2004; Antwort auf: spudgun

Re: 911 R

I was told the same thing so there may well be something in it.

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01.01.2016 18:39:56

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Kroatien; Beiträge: 7856, Gallery; Registriert: 03.12.2005; Antwort auf: ISUK

Re: 911 R

ISUK:
I was told the same thing so there may well be something in it.

Smiley Smiley

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01.01.2016 19:44:30

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Beiträge: 3201, Gallery; Registriert: 16.09.2002; Antwort auf: KresoF1

Re: 911 R

If this rumor reach future onwers they wont be happy for sure!

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