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14 juil. 2016 18:44:38

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Re: 991.2 GT3

Whoopsy:
bluelines:
Whoopsy:
Porsche considered the 4.0L engine in the GT3R as a version 2.0 engine, the version 2.5 will be the one going into the next GT3, major difference compared with the version 1 which is in the .1GT3 and version 1.5 in the RS and R is that it has a completely different oiling system.

So next GT3 is the one to get The "last" NA engine and it is not built from papier-mâché like the one in the 991.1.

I had been saying that since March

Must have got lost in-between all the R8 and Volvo posts Smiley Smiley

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14 juil. 2016 19:05:06

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Denver, CO , Etats-Unis; Messages: 12588, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 21 août 2002; En réponse de: Whoopsy

Re: 991.2 GT3

Whoopsy:
I had been saying that since March

I didn't ignore you - #1 deposit at a small dealer for several months... Smiley

You still feel pretty confident that Manual gearbox will be on the option sheet? Some have suggested they might be backing away from those plans...

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14 juil. 2016 21:00:59

throt: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 6083, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 9 mai 2005; En réponse de: bluelines

Re: 991.2 GT3

bluelines:
throt:
bluelines:
throt:
bluelines:
Grant:
If someone is really interested in the reliability issues with the 3.8L GT3 motor, this long thread has some valuable info (much of it from our friend Macca):

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/918481-how-many-15-16-gt3-s-have-engine-replaced.html

I wonder where those replaced E and F engines went? Into the 911 R?

My baby has the G beast. She is one sweet pot of a baby .........

,,,, my mistake,, its a F ...

Buddy, noooooooooo...

Smiley ,,,, behave Smiley .....

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15 juil. 2016 04:25:46

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: La Jolla, USA , Etats-Unis; Messages: 13737, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 11 avr. 2002; En réponse de: throt

Re: 991.2 GT3

So where does the 991.2GT3RS fit in? Will there be one and if so will it be NA or turbo?

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15 juil. 2016 05:45:03

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Re: 991.2 GT3

nberry:
So where does the 991.2GT3RS fit in? Will there be one and if so will it be NA or turbo?

fit in that will be the last of last of NA.

Will be not much faster than the GT3.2 but will be sure more becouseracecars than that.

so,i think i need to buy one,but only if i'm able to sell my RS at 250K euros. Smiley Smiley

ok...i stay with mine. Smiley

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15 juil. 2016 13:01:13

Macan911: Junior; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 78, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 16 févr. 2016; En réponse de: Super Darius

Re: 991.2 GT3

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/2017-porsche-911-gt3-leaked-images-show-cars-design

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15 juil. 2016 14:13:01

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Denver, CO , Etats-Unis; Messages: 12588, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 21 août 2002; En réponse de: nberry

Re: 991.2 GT3

nberry:
So where does the 991.2GT3RS fit in? Will there be one and if so will it be NA or turbo?

Some are saying that the RS used to homologate the race car will be the GT2 RS for the first time (as the race car is going turbo). If that happens, the usual GT3 RS is not part of the lineup. But maybe there will be a special limited car like the 997 RS 4.0 (possibly RS 4.2) that will be offered near the end of production?

If true, that would be bad news for non-918 owners if they all snap them all up like the 911R...

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15 juil. 2016 14:25:32

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Well the GT4 and current GT3 RS weren't that limited in the end no? Maybe there is hope...

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15 juil. 2016 14:26:37

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Re: 991.2 GT3

SciFrog:
Well the GT4 and current GT3 RS weren't that limited in the end no? Maybe there is hope...

True, but they only made 500 GT2RS and 600 RS 4.0 for the world in the 997 series...

I think they'll make a bunch of GT3's...

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15 juil. 2016 14:30:30

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: USA , Etats-Unis; Messages: 9870, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 15 nov. 2005; En réponse de: Grant

Re: 991.2 GT3

I would also think that they are going to flood the market with the next GT3, why wouldn't they? I am also convinced that slowly the GT cars will become a whole lineup of cars with many variants, the "sport" line, vs the regular "confort" line the normal 991s are.

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15 juil. 2016 14:50:29

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Re: 991.2 GT3

SciFrog:
I would also think that they are going to flood the market with the next GT3, why wouldn't they? I am also convinced that slowly the GT cars will become a whole lineup of cars with many variants, the "sport" line, vs the regular "confort" line the normal 991s are.

They need to milk the cow with the next GT3 and they will. Smiley

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15 juil. 2016 15:33:06

d997h: Expert; Lieu: . , Allemagne; Messages: 1810, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 24 nov. 2005; En réponse de: SciFrog

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Actually, it seems to me that the GT4 indeed is / was more limited than the GT3 RS... Smiley

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15 juil. 2016 15:48:24

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Lieu: Rennteam HQ , Allemagne; Messages: 59607, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 26 mars 2002; En réponse de: d997h

Re: 991.2 GT3

d997h:
Actually, it seems to me that the GT4 indeed is / was more limited than the GT3 RS...

Very possible. I tried to find out if the GT4 will be the last one of it's kind but I cannot get a definite answer.

A few months ago, I heard a rumor about a facelifted 400 hp GT4 but lately, nothing.

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15 juil. 2016 16:07:14

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Denver, CO , Etats-Unis; Messages: 12588, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 21 août 2002; En réponse de: RC

Re: 991.2 GT3

RC:

A few months ago, I heard a rumor about a facelifted 400 hp GT4 but lately, nothing.

When you heard that rumor, was it with NA motor or turbo (4ycl or 6cyl)?

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15 juil. 2016 16:32:03

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Argovia , Suisse; Messages: 11655, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 29 avr. 2005; En réponse de: Grant

Re: 991.2 GT3

Grant:
RC:

A few months ago, I heard a rumor about a facelifted 400 hp GT4 but lately, nothing.

When you heard that rumor, was it with NA motor or turbo (4ycl or 6cyl)?

If it is a 6-cylinder NA we trade in our GT4s. If it is anything else we do nothing Smiley

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15 juil. 2016 20:07:04

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: La Jolla, USA , Etats-Unis; Messages: 13737, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 11 avr. 2002; En réponse de: bluelines

Re: 991.2 GT3

As you all know I want a 991.2GT3RS. While at the dealership today, the sales manager who had just returned from a Porsche meeting indicated that I would get my RS sooner than two years from now. I believe US dealers will be getting allocations of the .2GT3's and RS's as early as next summer if not sooner. He also mentioned manual would be available which we all knew.

I hope the RS also comes in PDK-S. If not, it would be a a deal breaker for me. cheeky

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16 juil. 2016 00:46:15

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Re: 991.2 GT3

nberry:
As you all know I want a 991.2GT3RS. While at the dealership today, the sales manager who had just returned from a Porsche meeting indicated that I would get my RS sooner than two years from now. I believe US dealers will be getting allocations of the .2GT3's and RS's as early as next summer if not sooner. He also mentioned manual would be available which we all knew.

I hope the RS also comes in PDK-S. If not, it would be a a deal breaker for me.

Don't worry, a proper GT car will have the PDK. Smiley

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16 juil. 2016 01:17:27

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Denver, CO , Etats-Unis; Messages: 12588, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 21 août 2002; En réponse de: Whoopsy

Re: 991.2 GT3

Whoopsy:
nberry:
I hope the RS also comes in PDK-S. If not, it would be a a deal breaker for me.

Don't worry, a proper GT car will have the PDK.

You think manual option on both GT3 and RS?

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16 juil. 2016 01:33:57

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Lieu: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Messages: 16151, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 19 sept. 2006; En réponse de: Grant

Re: 991.2 GT3

Grant:
Whoopsy:
nberry:
I hope the RS also comes in PDK-S. If not, it would be a a deal breaker for me.

Don't worry, a proper GT car will have the PDK.

You think manual option on both GT3 and RS?

Well no. I know the GT3 will have the manual option, but from what I gathered the RS won't.

Porsche had maintained that their RS cars and above are for the absolute fastest track times, and a PDK is the only way to go for that, or at least a paddle shifted manual. The only cars above the RS are their race cars and track toy GT4CS, which switched over from manual to PDK. I haven't seen AP or Walliser indicate other-wise regarding their mission for the RS cars.

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16 juil. 2016 01:37:50

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Denver, CO , Etats-Unis; Messages: 12588, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 21 août 2002; En réponse de: Whoopsy

Re: 991.2 GT3

Ok. I like your statement about being so sure about manual on the GT3. That's really my desire and was getting nervous it might not happen...

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16 juil. 2016 05:01:14

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: La Jolla, USA , Etats-Unis; Messages: 13737, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 11 avr. 2002; En réponse de: Grant

Re: 991.2 GT3

Because the RS is coming sooner, I had to change my method of buying the Targa I ordered which I should have in about two weeks or so. California sales tax is 8% which amounts to $11,500 for my car. To avoid paying the full tax On the Targa I decided to lease the car something I rarely do.

Assuming I get an early allocation, I could turn my Targa in after a year or so, have a good idea what my residual will and have gap protection should I be involved in an accident. Financially this makes sense.

Btw, I was told both cars will be NA and 4 liter. Which raises the question, how will the differentiate the RS form the GT3?

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16 juil. 2016 07:10:11

throt: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 6083, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 9 mai 2005; En réponse de: nberry

Re: 991.2 GT3

nberry:
Btw, I was told both cars will be NA and 4 liter. Which raises the question, how will the differentiate the RS form the GT3?

And Whoop stated maybe only PDK only for the RS. Thats a funny mix if factual.

Would it simply be a HP jump for the RS,,?..

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16 juil. 2016 07:20:15

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Argovia , Suisse; Messages: 11655, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 29 avr. 2005; En réponse de: throt

Re: 991.2 GT3

throt:
nberry:
Btw, I was told both cars will be NA and 4 liter. Which raises the question, how will the differentiate the RS form the GT3?

And Whoop stated maybe only PDK only for the RS. Thats a funny mix if factual.

Would it simply be a HP jump for the RS,,?..

Surely it will have a bigger wing Smiley

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16 juil. 2016 10:36:52

Rotbart: Junior; Lieu: Germany , Allemagne; Messages: 91, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 16 avr. 2014; En réponse de: bluelines

Re: 991.2 GT3

RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

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16 juil. 2016 10:47:29

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: Argovia , Suisse; Messages: 11655, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 29 avr. 2005; En réponse de: Rotbart

Re: 991.2 GT3

Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Lifted from the massive success with "ram-air" blades on the GT4 obviously Smiley

Weight saving would be nice to see.

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16 juil. 2016 13:11:46

throt: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 6083, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 9 mai 2005; En réponse de: bluelines

Re: 991.2 GT3

bluelines:
Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Weight saving would be nice to see.

No fat RS drivers allowed then. That'll be a start.. Smiley ..

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16 juil. 2016 13:12:58

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Lieu: VD, Switzerland , Suisse; Messages: 14188, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 11 mars 2005; En réponse de: throt

Re: 991.2 GT3

throt:
bluelines:
Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Weight saving would be nice to see.

No fat RS drivers allowed then. That'll be a start....

No RS for Throt Smiley

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16 juil. 2016 13:16:11

throt: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 6083, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 9 mai 2005; En réponse de: Gnil

Re: 991.2 GT3

Gnil:
throt:
bluelines:
Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Weight saving would be nice to see.

No fat RS drivers allowed then. That'll be a start....

No RS for Throt

So far so good. Fifty , but not fat, buddy Smiley . I am so strict, no achohol, correct portion size etc etc. You look fairly tall , Gnil, in that pic, yourself not a fatty either. Remember, seconds on the lips, inches on the hips. Smiley Smiley

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16 juil. 2016 13:22:37

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Lieu: VD, Switzerland , Suisse; Messages: 14188, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 11 mars 2005; En réponse de: throt

Re: 991.2 GT3

throt:
Gnil:
throt:
bluelines:
Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Weight saving would be nice to see.

No fat RS drivers allowed then. That'll be a start....

No RS for Throt

So far so good. Fifty , but not fat, buddy . I am so strict, no achohol, correct portion size etc etc. You look fairly tall , Gnil, in that pic, yourself not a fatty either. Remember, seconds on the lips, inches on the hips.

I was just teasing . I knew form some of your old posts that you are keeping well , fifty ( me this year ) and no alcohol , like me . You can keep your name down on the RS Smiley .

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16 juil. 2016 13:27:40

throt: Rennteam VIP; Lieu: London , Royaume-Uni; Messages: 6083, Gallery; Inscrit depuis le: 9 mai 2005; En réponse de: Gnil

Re: 991.2 GT3

Gnil:
throt:
Gnil:
throt:
bluelines:
Rotbart:
RS will likely get the Turbo's wider body, bigger wing and more (adjustable) aero goodies in general - same as with 991.1.

Then the side air intakes with their "ram-air" effect and a different intake system, better cooling, etc. will result in slightly more power. Maybe some more engine tweaks like a higher compression ratio.

And hopefully proper weight saving measurements

Weight saving would be nice to see.

No fat RS drivers allowed then. That'll be a start....

No RS for Throt

So far so good. Fifty , but not fat, buddy . I am so strict, no achohol, correct portion size etc etc. You look fairly tall , Gnil, in that pic, yourself not a fatty either. Remember, seconds on the lips, inches on the hips.

I was just teasing . I knew form some of your old posts that you are keeping well , fifty ( me this year ) and no alcohol , like me . You can keep your name down on the RS .

Jeeps, your coming up to 50, you do not look it, Gnil... Hahaha, yep, fingers crossed, hopefully an RS in the next 18 month or whatever. Really like the 488 now too Smiley ...

Enjoy the weekend Smiley ...

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