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Apr 5, 2006 3:20:09 AM

Stephenkng: Pilot; Loc: S.F., CA , United States; Posts: 356, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 5, 2005

Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

I need help. I need to re-paint my 997 hood due to an clear bra installation. There were bables on the clear bra and the installer try to remove it from the hood and re-install a new film. During the removal process, some of the paint from the hood come off. I need to have the hood re-painted due to that. Anyone knows a good body shop that do excellant paint job on a 997 in San Francisco Bay Area. Please Please I need help

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Apr 5, 2006 5:38:35 PM

Dan L: Expert; Loc: Santa Barbara, CA , United States; Posts: 1957, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 2, 2006; Reply to: Stephenkng

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Sounds like a horror story! Sorry, I don't know of a shop in SF.

Dan

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Apr 5, 2006 7:22:36 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: Dan L

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Yikes, I'll definitely be taking my time (someday) when I go to remove my clearbra. There's a chemical I've used before that I've got back in the shop (forgot the name), that does a wonderful job wicking underneath the edge of stubborn decals and dissolving adhesive.

In any case, bad news is that they'll have to strip your entire hood. Good news is no body work or filler will be involved, which means no future shrinkage or bubbling to worry about. It'll be an EASY job for a qualified shop to make your hood look as-new.

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Apr 5, 2006 7:36:15 PM

sdy284: Expert; Loc: Wisconsin, USA; Posts: 1348, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2005; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

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69bossnine said:
Yikes, I'll definitely be taking my time (someday) when I go to remove my clearbra. There's a chemical I've used before that I've got back in the shop (forgot the name), that does a wonderful job wicking underneath the edge of stubborn decals and dissolving adhesive.

In any case, bad news is that they'll have to strip your entire hood. Good news is no body work or filler will be involved, which means no future shrinkage or bubbling to worry about. It'll be an EASY job for a qualified shop to make your hood look as-new.

but unfortunately, more often than not, its NOT an easy job to find a qualified shop

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Apr 9, 2006 4:28:34 PM

Raptor: Junior; Loc: SF Bay, USA; Posts: 79, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 11, 2004; Reply to: sdy284

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Yikes, who did the installation (so we can avoid them)?

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Apr 9, 2006 7:08:22 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Raptor

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

My drop dead advice: get some friends and unbolt the hood and bring only the hood to the shop. Dust at body shops gets everywhere, theft and damage is a constant threat. You might even get a better more careful job since they won't be in a hurry to get your car outta there because it's so crowded with all the other cars in the shop. You might even get a price break toobecause it's less work for them with no masking the car, cleaning it after, etc etc etc.

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Apr 9, 2006 7:15:55 PM

john999s: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 537, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 10, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

If it's metallic you might need to blend it into the adjacent panels though?

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Apr 10, 2006 2:59:30 PM

Stephenkng: Pilot; Loc: S.F., CA , United States; Posts: 356, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 5, 2005; Reply to: john999s

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Please please, anyone has some names. I try to bring it to a shop today. Just come back from a trip and thank you so much for all your input. Please someone give me some names.

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Apr 10, 2006 3:53:40 PM

raffi: Junior; Loc: los angeles; Posts: 126, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 5, 2005; Reply to: Stephenkng

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

check out ferrarichat too for bodyshops in the california section.
did you get porsche involved with this mishap or is your clear bra installer taking care of you?
the reason I ask is that maybe your hood was repainted prior to clear bra.
I doubt the factory paint would come off that easily...

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Apr 10, 2006 5:50:13 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: raffi

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

No blending needed, no matter what the paint. MMD is dead-on correct about giving them the hood only, but they may bitch about wanting to have the hood installed on the car for final block-sanding and buffing, as it's tough to do a proper job of that when it's loose off the car. Kinda like trying to sand your dog, he'll keep moving on ya.....

A considerate shop will wrap your entire car in plastic, mask the tops of the fenders so that they are protected during re-install and sand/buff. It's just a matter of making these desires clear up front, so that they realize you're not their ordinary schmoe clueless customer.

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Apr 10, 2006 8:09:15 PM

jfraser: Co-Pilot; Loc: LA; Posts: 267, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2005; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

'No blending needed, no matter what the paint'...How do you figure that?

Say it was a metalic; variables would include, the paint itself (and even though Porsche will give them the composition, there is still a variance...there's even a variance on the production line from one batch of paint to another), other factors incl nozzle type, spray pressure, spray angle, flake size etc. The hood sits next to 3 adjacent panels meaning one's eye would have 3 seperate points of color reference.

Don't know any bodyshops in San Fran area, but try calling Sam at Premier Mobile (in your area)...they have the reputation of being the best in the business on paint protection film, I would imagine that they would know who's a great bodyshop.
http://www.premiermobilegroup.com/

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Apr 10, 2006 9:34:51 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: jfraser

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Keep in mind that would entail re-clearing the both fenders and the cowl panel and the nose, entirely. Talk about fixing a hang-nail by way of open heart surgery. And I just don't like blending with metallics, because if your color really isn't spot-on, then instead of isolating it to a single panel where surface viewing angle could explain slight variance, it just gets cobbled further down the line somewhere else where the color and the metallics kinda mesh in an unholy stew. I dunno, it's just a method that I can always easily spot, regardless of how it may trick the eye of the casual observer.

Job #1 is get the color match RIGHT before spraying, which can be done.

Your guy should be capable of taking the custom-mixed paint done to factory color specification, THEN, he'll spray a test square, clear it, and take it outside (with the car), and check match, and then check inside under flourescent lighting, which really amplifies differences that you might not see in sunlight, or vice versa, if that makes any sense. If tinting is necessary to achieve perfect match, out comes the tint kit, and he starts playing with the mix, sprays another square, and so-on, until it's right, inside and out. THEN he sprays the hood, and only the hood.

Everyone's gonna have their own opinion, but the only time I would blend would be in a place that was very narrow and subtle. Like, if you had to respray your roof, you wouldn't want to spray both 1/4's as well, but you've got no panel termination, so you'd spray just the roof, and blend at the narrowest point of the C-pillar, and nobody would ever know, and you'd have spared the rest of your car from paintwork, which is always a goal to keep as much as you can virgin/factory.

Just an opinion.... Finding a high-end shop can be tough.

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Apr 11, 2006 12:09:57 AM

jfraser: Co-Pilot; Loc: LA; Posts: 267, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2005; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

69bossnine, fair enough opinion

....On the metallic though, I think flake size is really important...you can nail the color, but if the flake is off the thing will look totally wrong....

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Apr 11, 2006 12:40:44 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: jfraser

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

I agree totally. But if you've got that problem, the blending doesn't fix it, it just makes the transition softly somewhere that you hope folks won't notice. Usually if you've got a serious incompatibility on flake size, somebody dropped the ball somewhere, because the flakes are indexed by size and specified for all factory mixes... They standardize it best they can, but sometimes a paint supplier or manufacturer can make mistakes, or have funky flake. Then you're stuck having to go with another system, i.e. Dupont to BASF, etc..

Bottom line, if the paint isn't a good match, it shouldn't go on any square inch of the car, regardless of technique.

I went through the agonies of all this when my metallic blue '69 Mach 1 was finished in 1992, then some drunk drove down the side of it while it was parallel parked 6 months later (requiring the quarter panel to be blended at the belt-line), and then 2 years later, someone kicked my driver's door (no blend, just an absolute match that required alot of tweaking the mix). The original blue on that car is very pearly, and a tough match. Every time I'd drive that car into his shop for a repair, he'd put his hand on his forehead and scream "you must be $hitting me..." LOL!!!!

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Apr 12, 2006 6:51:09 PM

Derf: Junior; Loc: Los Angeles; Posts: 138, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 18, 2005; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Did you find someone?

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Apr 12, 2006 6:59:47 PM

Stephenkng: Pilot; Loc: S.F., CA , United States; Posts: 356, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 5, 2005; Reply to: Derf

Re: Help Help Need to re-paint my 06 776 hood

Yes, I found a shop in San Carlo and the car is in the shop now. I should get it back by this Friday. The repaint is very expensive and I hope it turn out good. Thank you for your kind concern.

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Apr 12, 2006 11:22:14 PM

Tompa: Newbie; Loc: Northern CA, US; Posts: 7, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

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http://yellowpages.aol.com/main.adp?_dlc...head_sic=753201

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Apr 12, 2006 11:52:41 PM

Stephenkng: Pilot; Loc: S.F., CA , United States; Posts: 356, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 5, 2005; Reply to: Tompa

Re: Check Bodystyle by Cecil Beach in San Jose

Tompa, Thanks. The car is already in with Superior in San Carlo. Their faculity seems very good. I will post update if anyone interest after I get it back on Friday.

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