CloseYeah, I'm thinking of skipping the track today and letting you guys show me around.
There are some very fast cars here (most not street legal) and worried that one might run right over me with the low visibility. Hard to follow the line when all you see is rooster tail of water too...
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Grant:
Weather not so friendly this morning in Dijon
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Mid-October, that's pretty crazy 
2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2013 MINI John Cooper Works GP / 2014 BMW Alpina D3 biturbo Touring
Grant:Weather not so friendly this morning in Dijon
I noticed it had snowed at the Ring, but did not expect snow in Dijon.
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Kobalt:Horrible, It looks like it is really low temperatures in Germany and France at the moment.
After I got my 991 Turbo S, I drove around this time of the year with my son to Lake Garda and we had up to 22°C and sun there. I guess we are paying now the price for the extremely nice and hot (35-40°C most of the time) summer we had in Germany and some neighboring countries. Some meteorologists actually predict a very white and cold winter. 
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Grant:Yeah, I'm thinking of skipping the track today and letting you guys show me around.
There are some very fast cars here (most not street legal) and worried that one might run right over me with the low visibility. Hard to follow the line when all you see is rooster tail of water too...
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Maybe better to head directly to Paris !
This snow is pretty unusual for this time of the year in Dijon . It is more like mid November weather . There is a very cold front going though . Should get better by the week end . Here it is cold, not far from getting snow in the plain .
997.2 C2 , -20mm I 964 Carrera 4 I 991 GT3 RS
Gnil:Grant:Yeah, I'm thinking of skipping the track today and letting you guys show me around.
There are some very fast cars here (most not street legal) and worried that one might run right over me with the low visibility. Hard to follow the line when all you see is rooster tail of water too...
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Maybe better to head directly to Paris !
This snow is pretty unusual for this time of the year in Dijon . It is more like mid November weather . There is a very cold front going though . Should get better by the week end . Here it is cold, not far from getting snow in the plain .
Unusual indeed! We jinxed the weather by discussing the need for winter tyres for factory pickups a couple of months ago. 
fritz
We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
That is ironic. 600 miles north-west of Dijon we have been enjoying the clearest blue skies of this year for the last couple of weeks, and still are at the moment. 
fritz
fritz:Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
That is ironic. 600 miles north-west of Dijon we have been enjoying the clearest blue skies of this year for the last couple of weeks, and still are at the moment.
Blue skies are OK but not if the temperature is below 15°C. 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
RC:fritz:Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
That is ironic. 600 miles north-west of Dijon we have been enjoying the clearest blue skies of this year for the last couple of weeks, and still are at the moment.
Blue skies are OK but not if the temperature is below 15°C.
They still beat the hell out of drizzle out of steel grey skies at temperatures below 15°C. 
fritz
fritz:RC:fritz:Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
That is ironic. 600 miles north-west of Dijon we have been enjoying the clearest blue skies of this year for the last couple of weeks, and still are at the moment.
Blue skies are OK but not if the temperature is below 15°C.
They still beat the hell out of drizzle out of steel grey skies at temperatures below 15°C.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
A real hard core !!! I would head into the stand after one lap !
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997.2 C2 , -20mm I 964 Carrera 4 I 991 GT3 RS
Gnil:Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
A real hard core !!!
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997.2 C2 , -20mm I 964 Carrera 4 I 991 GT3 RS
Sometimes it can be interesting (and very informative) to do such a lap during such bad weather if you are cautious (driver in the video seems to be) but I agree, this is no real fun and I wouldn't want to do that the whole day or even only half a day. 
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Oct 15, 2015 5:34:13 PM
Grant:We are headed to Paris now, but Trakcar could not be deterred by a little weather:
hats off to Trakcar.. Going out in that is pretty hardcore. Bit of a wasted day though - the forecast is much better for Sunday thankfully..
2015 911 GT3, 2011 987S, 1964 Type 1 
Oct 17, 2015 4:55:23 PM
Train just arrived in Dijon. Julie and I waiting for cab (none here for some reason) to check-in to hotel and then to Dr. Wine. Probably will be a little late (but hopefully we'll before 8).
Cheers,
Grant
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Grant:On our way from hotel to Dr Wine now. Parking lot looks epic, guys!!
It sure does
Edit: the upload doesn't work from iPhone
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2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2013 MINI John Cooper Works GP / 2014 BMW Alpina D3 biturbo Touring
Oct 18, 2015 6:17:38 PM
Just got back - was great fun. Me, Gnil, Porker, Grant and his girlfriend, TRAKCAR, and 911Rox had a lovely dinner and drinks - plenty of laughs and Porsche talk. Kudos to 911Rox for jumping on a plane from Australia to join TRAKCAR for another 2 weeks of pan-European ED fun! Crazy stuff.
A few pics of the new toys (only mine & Porker's aren't sparkly new..)
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2015 911 GT3, 2011 987S, 1964 Type 1
Oct 18, 2015 6:34:04 PM
Great pics! 
Glad you had a great day 
Too bad I missed it...
More impressions from the day please. Gnil, how is the RS on track? Did Grant's GT4 lap you? 
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2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM
It was great meaning Grant and Julie, TRACKER ( from Reenlist ) and 911Fox ( old Rennteam member now on Reenlist ) It is so nice to put a face on an avatar ! And seeing Porker again, and of course DaveGordon .
Hardly any cars on the track day ..... Weather was ok , and I am slowly getting used to the RS . I still need quite some learning to exploit what the car can do , but I love driving it !!!
I was very surprised to not be able to be faster on the straight ( 256 km/h ) then Porker in his 'old' 997.1 GT RS . I gained max 1 or 2 meters by the end of the straight . Weight ? Size ? lack of HP ?
Grant , I hope you will enjoy the rest of your trip !
And Dave thanks for the great pics !
997.2 C2 , -20mm I 964 Carrera 4 I 991 GT3 RS
Also made it back home, a looong drive unfortunately not entirely without gendarmes... 😁
Great seeing the familiar faces again as well as meeting the new ones such as TRACKAR and Grant. As much as I enjoy driving on track, the evening before was easily as enjoyable, sharing the same passion around a table with good food and drinks.
The driving part was obviously brilliant as well, Dijon-Prenois is a great little track, really flowing, quick and very technical with a lot of elevation changes. The first few hours I spent learning the track with some great guidance from both Eric and Peter. First thing that I noticed that there are several quick lines around the track depending on your driving style. Once into the flow the laptimes started falling and it was clear the RS was at home there, really enjoyed its balance, brakes and suspension there. Indeed weird how the speed on the back straigh almost matched the 991 RS, I assume drag is the culprit as at slower speeds you do notice a big difference in acceleration between both.
I've had the chance to compare the 997RS and the 991RS (very thankful for that!) and it's amazing how different they are, the 991 feels a lot bigger, much more grown up and hugely capable. Front end grip is huge compared to a 997 and it feels very very agile. It is much less demanding on the driver at the speeds I did with it, which is something I would possibly miss compared to the 997, that said I assume when you're really pushing the 991RS it still remains a 911 at heart and will ask questions of its driver. A special mention has to go to the noise it makes inside the cabin, fabulous induction roar even with a helmet on.
I returned a happy man, great weekend!
2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2013 MINI John Cooper Works GP / 2014 BMW Alpina D3 biturbo Touring
Porker:
I've had the chance to compare the 997RS and the 991RS (very thankful for that!) and it's amazing how different they are, the 991 feels a lot bigger, much more grown up and hugely capable. Front end grip is huge compared to a 997 and it feels very very agile. It is much less demanding on the driver at the speeds I did with it, which is something I would possibly miss compared to the 997, that said I assume when you're really pushing the 991RS it still remains a 911 at heart and will ask questions of its driver. A special mention has to go to the noise it makes inside the cabin, fabulous induction roar even with a helmet on.
I returned a happy man, great weekend!
And I had a chance to drive Porker's 997.1GT3 RS ! I was very impressed by it's ' coherence' . Suspensions work fabulously , balance is superb and it feels built around the driver . Porker has done all the necessary mods to make the whole car very cohesive . And I medially noticed the weight difference compared to my RS . I could well see myself owning one as the drive was so enjoyable and somehow much closer to my Carrera S in driving style then in the 991 RS . I'll weight until the bubble burst !
I looked at TRAKCAR's video and he gets to the same top seed as we did on the straight . The 991 RS definitely gives up a lot of top speed for down force . I just wish I'd learn faster to use it properly
Frank, I hope it was not more then 90 Euro's !!
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