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Feb 26, 2017 9:43:28 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

I can confirm the 6:52 time.

And there will be no rear wheel steering on the car.

But it have independent active aero on the both sides of the car, it will tigger depending on which side the car is turning to help with cornering grip.

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Feb 26, 2017 1:10:15 PM

sfo: Rennteam Pro; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 2093, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

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Feb 26, 2017 1:16:38 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: sfo

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

sfo:
crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

No need for both Coupe & Roadster, so the Coupe is going to make room for the Performante

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Feb 26, 2017 1:19:41 PM

sfo: Rennteam Pro; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 2093, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

crayphile:
sfo:
crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

No need for both Coupe & Roadster, so the Coupe is going to make room for the Performante

I saw Performante at Stamford Bridge .. wow!

are you keeping the standard CF bucket seats?

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Feb 26, 2017 2:48:55 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

crayphile:
sfo:
crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

No need for both Coupe & Roadster, so the Coupe is going to make room for the Performante

Yes, yes, yes...I love you man. Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Please don't misunderstand the "I love you". Smiley Smiley

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Feb 26, 2017 3:46:32 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: sfo

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

sfo:

I saw Performante at Stamford Bridge .. wow!

are you keeping the standard CF bucket seats?

I missed the secret reveal as we were away. I will see it for the first time at Geneva.

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Feb 26, 2017 3:46:54 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Yes, yes, yes...I love you man.

Please don't misunderstand the "I love you".

Smiley

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Feb 26, 2017 6:58:53 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Whoopsy:
I can confirm the 6:52 time.

And there will be no rear wheel steering on the car.

But it have independent active aero on the both sides of the car, it will tigger depending on which side the car is turning to help with cornering grip.

So you've also got the time, heh. Did you get yours from the lambo dealer or a porsche insider.

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Feb 26, 2017 7:01:17 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

One guy just posted this over at mclife; the same one from the earlier posts.

I just saw the car in person and am convinced it really is the real deal. The presentation explained how it achieves the radical downforce in corners while essentially having lift in the straights as needed. Sorry guys you are all wrong, the aero design is truly revolutionary. They showed us a cutaway of the actually wing, it will change the way aero is approached in the future. I can't say any details because I signed an NDA, but the wing has a lot going on inside. Also, the wing is large and high up. Not as big as the ACR, but certainly one of the largest on a production car and the rake is aggressive. Think RS size. Camo pics don't depict the presence of this thing. The front end DF is also completely believable, a lot going on up there as well. You'll have to wait until Geneva for the details but I don't think Lambo is giving us BS with the Ring numbers. This car could easily be 30 seconds faster than the standard Huracan, I would call it a GT3 Lambo, it's VERY track focused.

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Feb 26, 2017 9:01:29 PM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

crayphile:
sfo:
crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

No need for both Coupe & Roadster, so the Coupe is going to make room for the Performante

You´re the man Smiley

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Feb 26, 2017 9:42:12 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

crayphile:
sfo:
crayphile:
sfo:
I saw an Aventador SV in a deep red at London Lamborghini .. I had to drag myself away

That is my car!

why are you selling such a beast?

the paint is just lush, it has such presence, and yet it's not shouty

No need for both Coupe & Roadster, so the Coupe is going to make room for the Performante

Congrats Smiley

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Feb 28, 2017 9:17:22 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Real deal?

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Feb 28, 2017 9:18:01 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

No thanks.

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Feb 28, 2017 10:02:40 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Rossi:
Real deal?

Could be...wow...looks aggressive...maybe a bit too aggressive for German roads. Smiley I like it but I would probably choose the facelift with RWS instead (2018). Someone who already saw the car at a closed presentation said that the engineers are raving about the incredible track performance and the revolutionary but pretty much hidden active aerodynamics. Rumored power is 640 hp.

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Feb 28, 2017 10:37:42 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Rossi:
Real deal?

Looks more like a Photoshopped picture than the real deal because previous "spy" photographs have included ducting over the engine cover leading to the rear wing. Furthermore, the lower surface of the wing is free from the two lateral slots shown by Lamborghini as part of its aerodynamic technology. The two lateral bleed slots when opened stalls the wing, providing less downforce, and consequently less drag, for higher speeds. Since there are two lateral bleed slots that are actuated separately, this implies that a "torque vectoring" system by selectively applying more downforce to the more lightly loading inside rear wheel, increasing traction through the turn. This could also be another reason, besides packaging, costs, and project cycle, why rear wheel steering isn't included with this variant; there may not be need for the technology as the dynamic aerodynamic loading technology renders rear wheel steering superfluous.

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Mar 1, 2017 11:49:03 AM

Herbaliser: Co-Pilot; Loc: Zero Degree Atoll , Maldives; Posts: 298, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2007; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

The launch color is supposed to be Verde Mantis (Green) so I doubt that this is real. Plus there are details that look photoshopped.

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Mar 1, 2017 4:22:08 PM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: Herbaliser

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Here she is

https://youtu.be/6ULSUcERlQQ

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Mar 1, 2017 4:28:01 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: kingjr9000

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kiss

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Mar 1, 2017 4:37:35 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

kingjr9000:
Here she is

https://youtu.be/6ULSUcERlQQ

Pre-production model (didn't even have the updated speedo GUI), so I will wait until Sport Auto tests the car this autumn. I never trusted manufacturer claims.

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Mar 1, 2017 4:42:38 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Sport Auto result will be interesting indeed. Was there a Sport Auto time for 918?

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Mar 1, 2017 4:51:05 PM

Herbaliser: Co-Pilot; Loc: Zero Degree Atoll , Maldives; Posts: 298, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2007; Reply to: RC

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

I won't wait for Sport Auto and I couldn't care less if the actual time is a few seconds slower. If everything goes as planned by June/July I should be able to make my own comparison: GT3 RS vs. 488 vs. 991.2 Turbo S vs. Performante. Something tells me that all of the cars will win :)

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Mar 1, 2017 4:55:29 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Grant

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Grant:
Sport Auto result will be interesting indeed. Was there a Sport Auto time for 918?

7:13 min. Nordschleife and 1:06,3 min. Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Horst von Saurma was the driver and there was a rumor that Porsche wasn't happy with the result. Interesting fun fact: Horst von Saurma drove a Porsche factory supplied Carrera GT pretty often, so he was used to these kind of cars and definitely had the skills but of course a factory test driver, who drove that particular car dozens of times on a particular track in the same car, can achieve a better time. This is why I never trust factory claims. Never.

I am sad Horst von Saurma left because he was the kind of driver I would call semi-professional and his results were pretty comparable. Gebhardt may be younger and risks more but he is actually already too fast to be called only semi-professional, he is definitely a professional and the achieved times are in my opinion not really valuable to us. Smiley

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Mar 1, 2017 5:00:17 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Herbaliser

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Herbaliser:
I won't wait for Sport Auto and I couldn't care less if the actual time is a few seconds slower. If everything goes as planned by June/July I should be able to make my own comparison: GT3 RS vs. 488 vs. 991.2 Turbo S vs. Performante. Something tells me that all of the cars will win :)

I think it is a mistake to compare the Huracan Performante to the 991.2 Turbo S, the 488 or the GT3 RS. It is a completely different breed optimized for the track. Just a guess though. GT3 RS is not in the same performance class as 488, 991.2 Turbo S or Huracan Performante, even if it produces pretty impressive track times.

For me, besides the GT3 RS, the Huracan Performante is the most desirable "affordable" fun car right now.

Would get it it instantly if I had the financial possibility. I would buy it. This is a keeper. Same as 991.1 GT3 RS, no matter if a 991.2 GT3 RS will follow.

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Mar 1, 2017 5:44:41 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:
Grant:
Sport Auto result will be interesting indeed. Was there a Sport Auto time for 918?

7:13 min. Nordschleife and 1:06,3 min. Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Interesting - quite a discrepancy with official time (which was claimed to have lots of room for improvement)

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Mar 1, 2017 6:10:19 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Herbaliser

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Herbaliser:
I won't wait for Sport Auto and I couldn't care less if the actual time is a few seconds slower. If everything goes as planned by June/July I should be able to make my own comparison: GT3 RS vs. 488 vs. 991.2 Turbo S vs. Performante. Something tells me that all of the cars will win :)

Out of those 4 I will take a Turbo S in a heart beat.

It is head and shoulders above anything consider the total package. The others 3 can only do 1 thing well. maybe another 0.5 thing. But the Turbo S basically do everything well.

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Mar 1, 2017 6:12:21 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Not sure anyone cross shopping in this segment is looking to do everything with one car. The turbo S is by far the most versatile efficient tool but lack in the soul and exclusivity department when at the same time the price new exploded with residuals staying the same.

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Mar 1, 2017 6:41:42 PM

Herbaliser: Co-Pilot; Loc: Zero Degree Atoll , Maldives; Posts: 298, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2007; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

Out of those 4 I will take a Turbo S in a heart beat.

It is head and shoulders above anything consider the total package. The others 3 can only do 1 thing well. maybe another 0.5 thing. But the Turbo S basically do everything well.

Well it's nice when you don't have to chose, isn't it? You know that better :)

By the end of the year one will have to go...and something tells me that it's going to be the RS...

As for the Turbo S, it's funny how disappointed I was when it was announced, now I've just ordered my 3rd one.

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Mar 1, 2017 8:04:11 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:
I am sad Horst von Saurma left because he was the kind of driver I would call semi-professional and his results were pretty comparable. Gebhardt may be younger and risks more but he is actually already too fast to be called only semi-professional, he is definitely a professional and the achieved times are in my opinion not really valuable to us.

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Not sure - if you compare the Supertests (Gebhardt for SA and HvS for AZ) both drivers achieved the same lap time in the 488 GTB Smiley

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Mar 1, 2017 8:15:31 PM

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Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

kingjr9000:
Here she is

https://youtu.be/6ULSUcERlQQ

Strange that this car has a racing seat and a roll cage. Any more 'tuning' part from Lambo on board not in lime with the production car?

Smiley

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Mar 1, 2017 8:20:00 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: Huracán Performante in "6.52 something" at the Ring?

GoHardGT3RS:
kingjr9000:
Here she is

https://youtu.be/6ULSUcERlQQ

Strange that this car has a racing seat and a roll cage. Any more 'tuning' part from Lambo on board not in lime with the production car?

That is standard operating procedure for test vehicles on the 'Ring or any test track. There is nothing nefarious about wanting to protect a driver in a high risk situation.

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