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Apr 16, 2014 11:21:10 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

KresoF1:

reginos:

Wide car with very long hood. Something for the highway not for the challenging B roads and the mountains.

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Again I diagree with you. 991 Turbo S is with 1880mm not too wide? What about Huracan, 458 or forthcoming R8(which is wider then AMG GT)? Even Macan is pretty wide and you priased its handling...

This is why my favourite is the narrow body (well compared to the others) Carrera S RWD.

The Macan I assessed as a SUV/small saloon, not as a B road king and sports car rival.

To repeat what I wrote few weeks ago-new AMG GT is marginally smaller then SLS AMG size wise(in lenght, it is almost as wide and hight is aslo almost the same).

The look might be very nice, but the proportions with the long hood relative to the driver don't help driving on narrow sweeping roads. That was my point. I would prefer a more compact design away from the 50s SL models.

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Apr 16, 2014 11:26:35 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

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Apr 16, 2014 11:47:53 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

KresoF1:

I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

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Apr 16, 2014 12:05:37 PM

hunterone: Senior; Loc: Vienna , Austria; Posts: 582, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 9, 2006; Reply to: reginos

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Its for shure an amazing car but as the name and also now the interior implicate its a GT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_tourer and from the layout as Reginos stated not perfect for B roads.

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Apr 16, 2014 12:24:36 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: hunterone

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Doesn't the proportions technically make it nearly a mid engined car?

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Apr 16, 2014 12:31:46 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

EnglishManInNY:

Doesn't the proportions technically make it nearly a mid engined car?

You are right.

In same language you are sitting too close to front end of the car in Huracan for example.

And of course, you are sitting perfectly in the middle in 911... Smiley

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Apr 16, 2014 12:41:34 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

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The Lamborghini is a "cab forward" car (similarly the 12C and the P1) and the Mercedes is a "cab rearward" one, in design parlance.

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Apr 16, 2014 2:20:46 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

KresoF1:

noone1:

Looks like AMG are Lamborghini fans. Jesus Christ is that center console big. Am I the only one who thinks McLaren totally nailed it with it's super thin and spartan center console area?

And where are AC controls on 650S? On doors... BTW, IRIS in Mclaren is a joke IMHO. Specially in this price class.

Yes, on the doors. Why is that a big deal?

I wouldn't say it's a joke any more than anything else. It's Android based. Is what it is. 2.0 works fine from what I'm told. That said, name any car in any price range that has a good infotainment system comparable to a $400 phone. I haven't used the 918 system yet, probably never will, but I have no doubt in my mind that it sucks compared to an iPhone with a screen mirror. And that's a $1M car.

I think we can all agree infotainment systems, no matter what car or price, are all worthless overpriced shit.

iPhone 5S/N5 >> any infotainment system made in the next 5-10 years.

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Apr 16, 2014 2:26:32 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: reginos

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

reginos:

KresoF1:

I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

Is sitting far back ever ideal?

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Apr 16, 2014 2:51:04 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

noone1:

Is sitting far back ever ideal?

It's pretty fun in a Caterham. When you drift the car, you move around quite alot sitting on the rear axle Smiley

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Apr 16, 2014 2:56:03 PM

hunterone: Senior; Loc: Vienna , Austria; Posts: 582, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 9, 2006; Reply to: Grant

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

so a car for drifters and poseurs

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Apr 16, 2014 3:49:47 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: noone1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

noone1:

reginos:

KresoF1:

I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

Is sitting far back ever ideal?

Sometimes in the classroom Smiley

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Apr 17, 2014 4:45:29 AM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

KresoF1:

Hint for overall shape.

IMHO AMG GT is the best looking Mercedes car ever and I will for sure get one.

the most beautiful as well as most extreme cab rearward design of all time, IMO, the 1964 Cheetah racer :

http://www.cheetahcars.com/index.htm

http://www.cheetahcars.com/factory.htm

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Apr 17, 2014 8:23:35 AM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: MKW

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great looking interior imo.

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Apr 21, 2014 7:30:53 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: intouch1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

In real flesh the car looks really wide. Seen it many times and always its kind of an appearance.

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Apr 21, 2014 5:03:04 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzANwS9_qzc

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Apr 21, 2014 9:56:12 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Doesn't sound v AMG surprise

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Apr 22, 2014 12:15:19 PM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

EnglishManInNY:

Doesn't sound v AMG

It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!

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Apr 22, 2014 1:02:11 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Lars997:

EnglishManInNY:

Doesn't sound v AMG

It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!

Agreed. AMG GT sounds way better then 991 Turbo S for example.

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Apr 22, 2014 1:02:19 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Lars997

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All I can say is - I hope there is a sports exhaust option. I hear tires more than anything else. The best sound is at the end when it's going back to base. Not when it's 9/10s round the track which is v disappointing...

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Apr 22, 2014 1:21:37 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

KresoF1:

Lars997:

EnglishManInNY:

Doesn't sound v AMG

It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!

Agreed. AMG GT sounds way better then 991 Turbo S for example.

Noise has never been a Porsche strong point except the V10.

Since so many buyers value this aspect, Porsche should do something about it without further delay. I mean so many comment about the noise first and then about the substance. Most recent example, the eulogies about the F Type exhaust noise that occupies 90% of the write ups and comments.

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Apr 22, 2014 2:29:10 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: reginos

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

reginos:

Noise has never been a Porsche strong point except the V10.

Air-cooled 911 sound is among the most iconic in motoring history.

Here are some rally cars sounding good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6HB0AgS3U

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Apr 22, 2014 4:31:09 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Grant

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Now the second half of the EVO GT3 car of the year clip proves Porsche can make a good sounding (NA) engine! TTs sound more like a missile than an engine which isn't a bad thing or a great thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8

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Apr 22, 2014 9:00:03 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

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1. the AMG GT is still a pre-production vehicle

2. I have no complaints about the sound

3. this video is even better

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Apr 22, 2014 11:39:08 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Ferdie

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.

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Apr 23, 2014 10:56:31 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: noone1

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noone1:

Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.

Speaker broken? Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Apr 24, 2014 1:19:30 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Rossi:

noone1:

Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.

Speaker broken?

Exhaust sound will be included in the optional Mercedes cell phone App - Sound Mbrace. That way you can hear the exhaust sound in or out of your new Mercedes anytime you want to. It replaces the noise from conventional automobile exhaust systems. Smiley ........Porsche has something coming also with Porsche Predictive Exhaust option. It will be a step up in price from Porsche Sport Exhaust. The faster you go the more noise it will make.... Smiley

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Apr 24, 2014 11:52:46 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

http://de.autoblog.com/2014/04/24/erlkonig-video-mercedes-amg-gt-am-ring-mit-sound/

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May 2, 2014 4:27:26 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

Kreso how close are these renderings?

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/vorschau-mercedes-amg-gt-und-bmw-6er-5090698.html#bild1

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May 2, 2014 4:33:48 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

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Pretty close. But, some details on these renderings are not accurate.

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