Jan 22, 2014 11:37:27 AM
- Joost
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Jan 22, 2014 12:03:45 PM
Jan 22, 2014 4:26:45 PM
Jan 22, 2014 4:49:57 PM
A 991 Turbo/S Targa was rumored all the time, especially since the department responsible for Turbo development is basically the same for Targa development as far as I heard. A Turbo Targa would make sense and since a Turbo Cabriolet was possible, I assume a Turbo Targa shouldn't be impossible.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), BMW X3 35d (2013)
So, to sum it up:
We have the Carrera, Carrera 4 and Turbo. (All in non-s and s versions, but let's ignore that)
Then we have the cab versions, which are all called Like their Coupé versions.
Then of the Carrera 4, we have a Targa version, which -surprisingly- is called the targa, and not Carrera 4.
And now we have the Turbo Targa.... what will it say on the back? Turbo? Targa? Turbo Targa? Turga? Tarbo? Or will it have an entire new name? Maybe it will even be a "special" version, meant to commemorate x years of 911 turbo or so? Mwah, I'm sure marketing department will come up with something interesting :-P
Joost:
So, to sum it up:
We have the Carrera, Carrera 4 and Turbo. (All in non-s and s versions, but let's ignore that)
Then we have the cab versions, which are all called Like their Coupé versions.
Then of the Carrera 4, we have a Targa version, which -surprisingly- is called the targa, and not Carrera 4.
And now we have the Turbo Targa.... what will it say on the back? Turbo? Targa? Turbo Targa? Turga? Tarbo? Or will it have an entire new name? Maybe it will even be a "special" version, meant to commemorate x years of 911 turbo or so? Mwah, I'm sure marketing department will come up with something interesting :-P
Then there is the GTS Targa A parts bin special right before the 991.2 is presented. At which point the model circus starts over.
2014 981 Boxster S | Riviera Blue | PDK | Sport Suspension (-20mm) | PCCB | PTV | PSE
2010 997.2 C2S | Carrara White | Manual | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE | OZ Superforgiata
2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White
Previous
2008 997.1 C4S | Guards Red | Manual | PSE | Bilstein PSS10 | H&R Roll Bars | Dension 500
2007 997.1 Turbo | Meteor Gray | Manual | Bilstein PSS10 | Cargraphic Stage 2 | Dension 500
2005 987.1 Boxster S | Arctic Silver | Manual | OZ Ultraleggera | H&R Cup Suspension | H&R Roll Bars | Sachs Racing Clutch | Recaro Shells
2005 997.1 C2S | Atlas Gray | Manual | PSE | Sport Suspension (-20mm)
bluelines:
Joost:
So, to sum it up:
We have the Carrera, Carrera 4 and Turbo. (All in non-s and s versions, but let's ignore that)
Then we have the cab versions, which are all called Like their Coupé versions.
Then of the Carrera 4, we have a Targa version, which -surprisingly- is called the targa, and not Carrera 4.
And now we have the Turbo Targa.... what will it say on the back? Turbo? Targa? Turbo Targa? Turga? Tarbo? Or will it have an entire new name? Maybe it will even be a "special" version, meant to commemorate x years of 911 turbo or so? Mwah, I'm sure marketing department will come up with something interesting :-PThen there is the GTS Targa A parts bin special right before the 991.2 is presented. At which point the model circus starts over.
quote from recent in Wall Street Journal article addressing the exponential sub- model proliferation esp among the German brands :
"Go to one of the German car maker's showrooms and you might not find what you want because there are so many models that few dealers carry them all.
BMW AG this week unveiled the 2 Series, filling the only gap between its 1 and 7 Series, excluding SUV and coupe derivatives. Fifteen years ago, the Bavarian auto maker essentially offered just five different vehicles—the 3, 5 and 7 Series sedans, the X5 SUV and Z4 roadster.
There are so many today that BMW is advising dealers to remove sales cubicles to make more room for cars. The company also wants to use flat-screen displays to help customers understand the dizzying array of choices. BMW is looking to set up centralized fleets so shoppers can test-drive them all. The idea: dealers won't have to stock each version.
"The physical environment is not capable of handling all of the product portfolio," explained Ian Robertson, BMW's global sales and marketing chief.
Just look at what has happened with the " 3 " series, 21 variants and I wonder if that even includes the coming "GT " and all the "M " versions
Feb 5, 2014 6:43:02 PM
I think it's an attractive but it needs a little more distinction and energy. Maybe the wheels from the 911 50th would complete the retro look and make the overall effect more energetic.
"Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you" Churchill
Lukas:
Think the targa looks dated already. But probably that is the purpose
Don't poke a bear when your only intent is to rile You'll just get a roar directed your way at best and a swipe from a big heavy claw leading to a mauling at worst.
Some people will love the look and some people also hate the big wing on a GT3 let alone the RS... And there is a HUGE difference between retro and dated.
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Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
Mithras:
Lukas:
Think the targa looks dated already. But probably that is the purpose
Don't poke a bear when your only intent is to rile You'll just get a roar directed your way at best and a swipe from a big heavy claw leading to a mauling at worst.
Some people will love the look and some people also hate the big wing on a GT3 let alone the RS... And there is a HUGE difference between retro and dated.
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Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
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Suzy
2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic
2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
Mithras:
Lukas:
Think the targa looks dated already. But probably that is the purpose
Don't poke a bear when your only intent is to rile You'll just get a roar directed your way at best and a swipe from a big heavy claw leading to a mauling at worst.
Some people will love the look and some people also hate the big wing on a GT3 let alone the RS... And there is a HUGE difference between retro and dated.
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Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
I agree. The Targa looks retro but surely not dated. Actually, I am worried that Porsche may screw up the gorgeous look of the 991 with the facelift.
Not a fan of the silver targa frame though, Porsche should definitely offer some sort of color option (matte black or matte gun metal grey or something like that).
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), BMW X3 35d (2013)
RC:
Not a fan of the silver targa frame though, Porsche should definitely offer some sort of color option (matte black or matte gun metal grey or something like that).
I think that it will cost a lot of money to Porsche to offer this choice of colours as No Cost Options, given the limited production numbers of the Targa. And they could not make one colour standard and charge a huge amount for the other one or two, because this would be totally unacceptable to customers.
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"Form follows function"
MKW:
so perhaps the more recent years matte black Targa hoop is being saved for a future turbo Targa with its more aggressive body candy !
Huh? Porsche foregoing the opportunity to offer an overpriced option? Hard to believe. I'm sure a black Targa hoop option will become available soon.
Feb 18, 2014 7:41:50 PM
steelested:
i dont think the colour compliments the car
a retro colour with cup wheels would be a winner
a jelly bean color PLUS the current 911- 50 wheels are the only things that work with this retro aluminum look Targa hoop , since modern 911s lack the graphically complementing chrome headlamp rings, bumper accents, door handles, engine cover , silver Fuchs wheels ,etc of the 60 s and early 70s models.
Porsche went matte black Targa hoop with black Fuchs wheels as soon as they de chromed the 911 in the 1974/ 1975 model years
i scratch my head at this current design decision.
With today's " non color " exterior preferences , at least offer an exterior rear view mirror in aluminum as Audi does on all their S models. The preceding blue car would look much more balanced above the belt line with just this simple change and would also uniquely signal a Targa is following you !
Since no cars have been delivered yet, they should offer the aluminum rear view mirrors as the default on the Targa ,especially if no matte black hoop option is forthcoming.
Owned more than a few NSX's...both coupes (1994 & 1999 Zanardi) & other T models from 1997-2005. With the T top in place you could not discern any difference in body rigidity compared to a fixed roof coupe. With the T top out, they became a shaky to the point it felt like a wheel was way out of balance.
Honda went to great lengths to reinforce the body of the T so it would be as stable as the coupe...not a good result & I seldom ever took the targa top on on any of the NSX-T's I owned. Great cars nonetheless (with the top in ha!)
No targa or cabriolet for me!
Below 2005 NSX-T- one last 250 for North America
bridggar:
That last picture - really really awkward to my eyes.
It does look odd. I think its because the Targa bar is so flat looking. On original Targas the bar had a certain presence of strength. On the new one the rear window is very flush fitting and the roof roof panel looks too arched upwards and seems to go down the side of the windows more. Black might be the new Targas best color or.. just wait for the Macan Targa