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Sep 26, 2013 11:08:26 PM

991 GT3: Junior; Loc: Belgium , Belgium; Posts: 133, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2013; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

Boxster Coupe GTS:

This week, Chris Harris is mostly driving a Porsche 991 Turbo S (as supplied by Porsche GB) and has apparently been enjoying a few miles out on track...

Chris Harris:

"Sneaking suspicion this might be quite a brisk point-to-pointer..." -- Chris Harris on 25-Sep-2013

"911 Turbo S fuel range on track!!" -- Chris Harris on 26-Sep-2013

Smiley That fuel range is crazy!

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Sep 27, 2013 3:49:44 PM

hunterone: Senior; Loc: Vienna , Austria; Posts: 582, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 9, 2006; Reply to: 991 GT3

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I’m attending next Friday to an driving event on Red Bull Ring with the new 991 Turbo S. Looking forward to drive the new Turbo on a decent track. I'll report back how it feels and goes. I know the track from August were i attended an X-Bow training so maybe some insight.

On the Porsche 50 Year Special last weekend at Salzburg ring there were a lime and a black Turbo S on display. Both colour wise don’t do it for me. The lime colour is ugly as hell, and the black is a lil bit bland. The Rhodium GT3 was a stunner. Also I got the chance to drive my 997.1 Turbo around Salzburgring. Really a nice and fast Track.

The day before i was invited to a McLaren MP4-12C Test day at Wachauring (a smaller Test track) also with the possibility to drive my own car before and after the event. I had my own instructor (Franz Wittmann jun. a pro Rally Driver) and boy had we a lot of fun. This thing just flys.

Maybe i get after the test drive next Friday a decision between the Turbo S and the MP4-12C :).

@RC: first two 991 Turbo S cars got delivered yesterday from our dealer to a customer (one for him and one for his son). This was signed by Porsche directly so it seems that very good customers getting the car before.

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Sep 27, 2013 5:50:52 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: hunterone

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That sounds like a great time - have fun!

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Sep 28, 2013 1:46:53 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: hunterone

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

hunterone:

@RC: first two 991 Turbo S cars got delivered yesterday from our dealer to a customer (one for him and one for his son). This was signed by Porsche directly so it seems that very good customers getting the car before.

Well, maybe they just took the cars home and official delivery will be Oct. 5th. Smiley Dealers are paying hefty fines and face serious sanctions if they do not respect that. No exceptions made. Smiley If the dealer wants to risk it, well...his problem. Just do not post the name of the dealership. Btw: I got this wrong. Registration isn't a problem, the car can be registered as soon as the documents arrive at the dealership. Delivery is not permitted until Oct. 5th..

Smiley

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Sep 28, 2013 1:51:56 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: hunterone

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

hunterone:

The day before i was invited to a McLaren MP4-12C Test day at Wachauring (a smaller Test track) also with the possibility to drive my own car before and after the event. I had my own instructor (Franz Wittmann jun. a pro Rally Driver) and boy had we a lot of fun. This thing just flys.

McLaren Munich sent me some special lease offers recently, highly interesting. You should contact them, I know the boss personally and if you say hello from me, he will surely make you a good deal.

Still not for me though...I'm a Porsche guy. Smiley

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Sep 28, 2013 3:35:54 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8843, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: hunterone

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hunterone:

(one for him and one for his son).

Lucky kid !

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Sep 28, 2013 5:01:06 PM

hunterone: Senior; Loc: Vienna , Austria; Posts: 582, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 9, 2006; Reply to: Enmanuel

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Thanks RC for that offer kiss

Maybe the customer have the cars in his own garage but is not allowed to drive them yes

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Sep 28, 2013 5:25:34 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: hunterone

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hunterone:

Thanks RC for that offer

Maybe the customer have the cars in his own garage but is not allowed to drive them

I don't get the embargo at all. Some 991 Turbo S arrived at dealers in Germany and other countries over a week ago, incl. customer cars. Personally, I wouldn't mind if someone is driving a 991 Turbo S a week or two earlier than me but according to a source, there seem to be people who take it very very serious if they get a car first or not. So maybe it is because of them that Porsche wants to keep a certain introduction date, when all first customers get their cars simultaneously. Smiley To be honest, I would be happy for everyone who gets the car earlier because I know how I feel...very very nervous Smiley and it doesn't really feel good. My son also already nags me all day long when the car is coming, he thinks more about this car than about school right now. Smiley

My wife says I should be happy that Porsche was generous enough to provide such an early car (it wasn't easy, my dealer is small and didn't have a production slot for a Turbo S that early) and I am very grateful but like every true Porsche 911 Turbo lover, I am very eager to drive this car again, especially since now it is mine (well...sort of... Smiley ).

I am serious about the McLaren offer, just PM me before you go there (if you go there) and I give you details.

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Sep 29, 2013 10:24:11 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

For those considering some "different" options for their 991 Turbo (incl. black front lights...not available with LEDs...yet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm2SQQ8EYTE

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)

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Sep 30, 2013 9:45:52 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

UPDATE: Over the past week, Chris Harris has mostly been driving a Porsche 991 Turbo S (from Porsche GB) and has clearly been enjoying a few miles on road and track...

Chris Harris:

"Sneaking suspicion this might be quite a brisk point-to-pointer..." -- Chris Harris on 25-Sep-2013

"911 Turbo S fuel range on track!!" -- Chris Harris on 26-Sep-2013

"CLS 63 an absolute must when the subject matter is this fast..." -- Chris Harris on 27-Sep-2013

"Ultimate 991 Turbo S test. London Town." -- Chris Harris on 30-Sep-2013

"Might have a new favourite bit of Pork. It’s outrageous." -- Chris Harris on 30-Sep-2013

...looking forward to the Chris Harris video! Smiley

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Sep 30, 2013 9:52:38 PM

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1981, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 16, 2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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God that CLS 63 is gorgeous.

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Oct 1, 2013 7:35:19 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Mithras

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Might have a new favourite bit of Pork. It’s outrageous

So it seems CH found his love for Porsche again? indecision

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Oct 1, 2013 8:51:17 PM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: RC

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Is there a fail safe system for the Turbos rear wheel steering? Each side uses a heavy electric motor and a very small belt to turn each rear wheel. What happens if a belt fails on one side ? Will the broken side mechanically recenter and if so will the non broken side correct it self automatically to match the other wheels angle? Just curious.

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Oct 2, 2013 7:51:39 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: JimFlat6

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JimFlat6:

Is there a fail safe system for the Turbos rear wheel steering? Each side uses a heavy electric motor and a very small belt to turn each rear wheel. What happens if a belt fails on one side ? Will the broken side mechanically recenter and if so will the non broken side correct it self automatically to match the other wheels angle? Just curious.

I heard that in case of malfunction, for whatever reason, both wheels will go "straight" instantly (not sure how this works though). Same with the new active aerodynamics: If the front lip cannot "inflate", the rear wing stays down too and vice versa to keep an aerodynamical balance.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)

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Oct 2, 2013 10:36:41 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: RC

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Comparison between 991 Turbo S, Audi R8 V10+ and Nissan GT-R is in tomorrow's issue of AMS. It is already on newsstands in bigger towns in Germany.

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Oct 2, 2013 10:43:55 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

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Numbers, please.

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Oct 2, 2013 11:02:41 AM

sulaiman: Co-Pilot; Loc: kuwait , Kuwait; Posts: 179, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 24, 2013; Reply to: RC

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http://brightcove04.brightcove.com/21/67005934001/201309/2301/67005934001_2700213526001_Porsche-Vergleich.mp4

and thats the video link from the QR code

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Oct 2, 2013 11:39:42 AM

Hank: Junior; Loc: Media, PA USA , United States; Posts: 117, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 13, 2004; Reply to: sulaiman

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Highlights in english please for us non Deutsch speaking neophytes.

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Oct 2, 2013 11:55:38 AM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: sulaiman

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sulaiman:

http://brightcove04.brightcove.com/21/67005934001/201309/2301/67005934001_2700213526001_Porsche-Vergleich.mp4

and thats the video link from the QR code

I don't see how one can tell much of anything from the wet conditions in that video. Each vehicle's fittment of tires surely play a part on a completely wet track.

After I overcame my disappointment with the poor track conditions, it was interesting to see how the driver interacted with each car. He seemed to be provoking the Porsche into tail-out positions any chance he got. The Audi didn't seem to allow tail-out very much at all, or was too scary in previous attempts to put it on camera. The Nissan seemed to be fighting back most of the time because the driver often ended up steering out of phase with the car's electronic systems -- I say this because of the under-damped, jerky finishing of a number of the steering maneuvers.

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Oct 2, 2013 12:00:53 PM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: sulaiman

Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

sulaiman:

http://brightcove04.brightcove.com/21/67005934001/201309/2301/67005934001_2700213526001_Porsche-Vergleich.mp4

and thats the video link from the QR code

The Audi seemed to be the most fun and easy to slide aroung and drive, better engine sound too. Porsche seemed quicker from all three, and Datsun is boring boring.

J.Seven

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Oct 2, 2013 1:33:30 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: J.Seven

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Indeed. Engine sound rank is: Audi, then Porsche, then Nissan.

The wet capabilities are interesting but a lot related to tire setup, as Mike already said. Can't wait for the test results (still hoping for some numbers today...).

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Oct 2, 2013 2:00:09 PM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Indeed. Engine sound rank is: Audi, then Porsche, then Nissan.

The wet capabilities are interesting but a lot related to tire setup, as Mike already said. Can't wait for the test results (still hoping for some numbers today...).

991 Turbo S will smash them all, at least this should be the result. Both Nissan and Audi are almost Dinosaurs compared to this brand new Porsche product, and probably with 991Turbo S money you can buy the Datsun and a beautiful Boxster for the wife Smiley which I would never do, Datsun could have 900Hp and still wouldn´t be an option for me.

J.Seven

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Oct 2, 2013 2:04:33 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: J.Seven

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Nissan missed a chance here. With a less "in your face boy racer look" (what serious guy in his 30s/40s/50s wants to drive in a "Playstation" car?), the GT-R could have succeeded. There were rumors that Nissan is re-considering their GT-R strategy, whatever this means. One source meant that Nissan will stop GT-R development, another source said that they are going the other route, improving the GT-R and making it more attractive for the typical Porsche/Ferrari crowd without asking a fortune for it.

I'm curious about the next gen GT-R...if there is going to be one. Same goes to the Honda NSX...very curious about it.

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Oct 2, 2013 2:53:27 PM

sfo: Rennteam Pro; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 2093, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Same goes to the Honda NSX...very curious about it.

+1

Honda VTEC engines, yummy !!

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Oct 2, 2013 3:03:18 PM

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1981, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 16, 2005; Reply to: sfo

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It's amazing, in Toronto I see more Aston Martins and Ferraris (by an order of magnitude) than GT-R's. Porsche's, it isn't even close. I saw two Carerra GT's last week downtown but haven't seen a GTR in weeks.

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Oct 2, 2013 5:51:47 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Mithras

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I hardly ever see a GTR on the road too... Strange.

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Oct 2, 2013 6:16:41 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: SciFrog

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SciFrog:

I hardly ever see a GTR on the road too... Strange.

Same here in Bavaria...saw one...once. Not many around.

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Oct 2, 2013 8:10:53 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5175, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Mithras

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Mithras:

It's amazing, in Toronto I see more Aston Martins and Ferraris (by an order of magnitude) than GT-R's. Porsche's, it isn't even close. I saw two Carerra GT's last week downtown but haven't seen a GTR in weeks.

I've probably have seen more Bugatti Veyrons than GT-Rs in Chicago.

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Oct 2, 2013 8:25:14 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: CGX car nut

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I see a few around here ....... as much as 991 's

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Oct 3, 2013 10:16:30 AM

acrobat: Co-Pilot; Loc: Europe , Hungary; Posts: 250, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2008; Reply to: Gnil

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Any results by AMS?

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