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Porsche Macan Mule Spotted on the 'Ring...
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rulesdontapply:
Beautiful, dynamic little thing; can't wait. The countdown is on!
RC - what are the chances of a two-door Macan?
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Right now, I do not see that happen. Audi is rumored to come up with some sort of off-road two-door but I'm not sure if the rumors refer to some sort of Q4/5 variant or something completely new (like the off-road coupe prototype they've shown recently).
Btw: The Macan will be a very nice little smaller sized SUV but don't forget that the Cayenne facelift is due too and Porsche won't disappoint. There will still be a performance and price gap between the Macan and Cayenne, so don't be too excited.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
The Macan in the pictures sits very low to the ground like a hot saloon.
Apparently, it must be at the lowest setting of its variable suspension. I don't think the Cayenne can go so low when on the move, but only in the parking mode.
"Form follows function"
Sep 15, 2013 5:13:55 PM
RC:
rulesdontapply:
Beautiful, dynamic little thing; can't wait. The countdown is on!
RC - what are the chances of a two-door Macan?
rulesdontapply
Right now, I do not see that happen. Audi is rumored to come up with some sort of off-road two-door but I'm not sure if the rumors refer to some sort of Q4/5 variant or something completely new (like the off-road coupe prototype they've shown recently).
Btw: The Macan will be a very nice little smaller sized SUV but don't forget that the Cayenne facelift is due too and Porsche won't disappoint. There will still be a performance and price gap between the Macan and Cayenne, so don't be too excited.
Oh, I can imagine; I'm expecting the Macan Turbo to have a power level somewhere on par with the current Cayenne S give or take some grunt. I'm speculating that the Macan Turbo S mighty pack something around 420-50 horsepower, which is well below the 500 horsepower figure of the current Cayenne Turbo. Still, the privilege of owning a Turbo S and a hot little engine in a smaller, lighter package... It does make a case for itself. Kind of like the 330-hp 987.2C Cayman R and 345-hp 997.2 Carrera; one is a range-topper and the other a base model, but each has its own cachet despite the difference in output.
I've been scrutinizing the Cayenne facelift's photos and it looks good from the front so far - in tune with the Panamera facelift with sharper edges on the headlights and the four-dot LEDs - but I'm a bit worried about that backside. I can see Macan-like tail lights with horizontal LED light bars under the stickers and a longer high-level brake light, but the tailgate door looks a little flattened, the back has a squashed look, that lower diffuser looks too plasticky and the tailpipes stick out too far in the same vein as the tailpipes on the Jaguar F-Type V8 S. I think that's what threw the Panamera facelift off for me; all that black plastic at the lower back. Most likely going the same route with the twin-turbo V6 in the S and the addition of the S E-Hybrid so power and efficiency should improve across the range.
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reginos:
The Macan in the pictures sits very low to the ground like a hot saloon.
Apparently, it must be at the lowest setting of its variable suspension. I don't think the Cayenne can go so low when on the move, but only in the parking mode.
All the pics in which the car appears to be very low to the ground are of the "weighted" side of the car on the outside of a fairly tight curve being driven quickly, so that side is just much lower to the ground than the other due to roll.
I wouldn't be too quick to put those images down to a variable height suspension necessarily.
fritz
Sep 17, 2013 5:32:36 AM
Just read that Matthias Mueller has confirmed that the Macan will debut on November 20th with two almost simultaneous launches: one at the Los Angeles Auto Show and one just hours before at the Tokyo Motor Show. Since both shows fall on the same days this year, it seems Porsche is taking advantage of that by launching the car on two separate continents.
Knowing the way these things go, we'll more than likely have a leak in October or the days before the debut. Can't wait!
rulesdontapply
2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S
RC:Btw: The Macan will be a very nice little smaller sized SUV but don't forget that the Cayenne facelift is due too and Porsche won't disappoint. There will still be a performance and price gap between the Macan and Cayenne, so don't be too excited.
I know I'm a minority here but I'm really hoping for that. For someone looking forward to the time I can own my first Porsche, the entry level segment is very important.
Enmanuel:
RC:Btw: The Macan will be a very nice little smaller sized SUV but don't forget that the Cayenne facelift is due too and Porsche won't disappoint. There will still be a performance and price gap between the Macan and Cayenne, so don't be too excited.
I know I'm a minority here but I'm really hoping for that. For someone looking forward to the time I can own my first Porsche, the entry level segment is very important.
You should be buying a Boxster for a first Porsche, not Macan!
Lars997:
Yep - you should take a sportscar. A Panamera, Cayenne, Macan.... this are cars - without the sports and are not what makes the (IMO) Porsche DNA
I disagree here. The Panamera...the Cayenne...Porsche developments. The Macan is a different story but still...it will be the sportiest smaller SUV on the market.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
I agree with Christian, the Cayenne and Panamera are different from other SUV's and sedans in the same way that Porsche sportscars are different from other sportscars. Even more really. They reach performance goals that most other SUV's and sedans don't even aspire to.
GM Austin:
I agree with Christian, the Cayenne and Panamera are different from other SUV's and sedans in the same way that Porsche sportscars are different from other sportscars. Even more really. They reach performance goals that most other SUV's and sedans don't even aspire to.
The Cayenne was developed by Porsche engineers at the same time as, and on the same base platform, as the VW Touareg was developed by VW and managed to achieve a different, sportier character. Who's to say that the same can't be achieved with the Macan?
I'm sure that that will be what the Macan's development team is aspiring to.
fritz
I actually think that the Macan will sell very well, especially in Europe. I'm also afraid that it will take away customers from the Cayenne but it was expected.
Not sure if I will ever own a Macan though, it depends on the price tag and performance. I would not pay over 100k EUR for a Macan Turbo S, thats for sure.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
RCNot sure if I will ever own a Macan though, it depends on the price tag and performance. I would not pay over 100k EUR for a Macan Turbo S, thats for sure.
Agreed 100 %!
100k buy you a two year old Cayenne turbo with little Kms... For me the Macan Turbo must already have at least 400 hp, otherwise they can forget it! The car will be relatively heavy (1850-1900kg? i guess), so it needs the power, otherwise i will consider something else... (have my eyes on the new Alpina B3 which hopefully I can testdrive soon).
And the price has to be adequate too, over 100k is a no go for any Macan, I hope for 75-80k for the Turbo plus options...
turbolite
They say the turbo will get 370hp. I heard rumors that the Turbo will get 400hp and Turbo S 430hp. Within a month we will know I guess ;)
I'm just another female petrolhead :)
Lars997:
Yep - you should take a sportscar. A Panamera, Cayenne, Macan.... this are cars - without the sports and are not what makes the (IMO) Porsche DNA
Ideally that would be great. But being realistic. The wait is far longer if I have to consider having (for example) a Boxter + a daily driver. The Macan and Cayenne offer the opportunity to have both in one.
Sep 27, 2013 4:51:25 PM
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