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    Re: 991 RSR

    ...look forward to seeing the Porsche 991 RSR in action... Smiley

    "Onboard video of the test drive of the new Porsche 911 RSR on Circuit Paul Ricard. Jörg Bergmeister at the wheel of the Porsche 911 RSR..."

    Porsche 911 RSR -- WEC Test Circuit Paul Ricard -- Video Link

    "Behind the scenes video of the studio shoot Porsche 911 RSR in Germany. Including the 2013 drivers Timo Bernhard, Jörg Bergmeister, Patrick Pilet, Romain Dumas, Marc Lieb and Richard Lietz..."

    Porsche 911 RSR in Photo Studio -- Video Link

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    Re: 991 RSR

    Don't like talking about limited resorces. Whats a problem for them to run both WEC and USCR?


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    Re: 991 RSR

    I really don’t think we will see a works team in the USCR. Typically Porsche will get the bulk of their 991RSR customers from that series, so why race against them? I suspect we will see a semi-works team (like in the past Lizards) and then perhaps one or two other customer teams.

    I suspect that if the car does not prove itself competitive in the WEC this year, then we may see a works entry in the USCR for 2014 whilst development continues (although personally I think that it would be like trying to whip a dead horse unless substantial changes (like a new engine) were introduced).

    Remember that the LMP1 program comes on line in 2014 and that will eat up a lot of the available resources. The competition will be fierce, and beating Audi and Toyota at Le Mans is no easy feat. It is going to be a mammoth task!

     

     


    Re: 991 RSR

    Spyderidol:

    I really don’t think we will see a works team in the USCR. Typically Porsche will get the bulk of their 991RSR customers from that series, so why race against them? I suspect we will see a semi-works team (like in the past Lizards) and then perhaps one or two other customer teams.

    I suspect that if the car does not prove itself competitive in the WEC this year, then we may see a works entry in the USCR for 2014 whilst development continues (although personally I think that it would be like trying to whip a dead horse unless substantial changes (like a new engine) were introduced).

    Remember that the LMP1 program comes on line in 2014 and that will eat up a lot of the available resources. The competition will be fierce, and beating Audi and Toyota at Le Mans is no easy feat. It is going to be a mammoth task!

     

     

    I don't believe in Toyota, also I think 2013 is the last year they take a part in WEC. Audi - will see. But Porsche vs Audi is not great for VW. But must be fun. I remeber ALMS2007-2008 well. Great times.


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    Re: 991 RSR

    I think the bigger issue is whether the USCR teams (Falken, Flying Lizards, Paul Miller  & Core Auto Sports) can afford to race the 991 RSR without factory support.   I believe Porsche will chose to work closely with one of the teams in the USCR. Similar to the arrangement they had with the Flying Lizards.  Wouldn't be surprised if Audi does the same. 


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    Re: 991 RSR

    That would be the semi-works entry that I was referring to in my post.


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    Porsche 991 RSR race debut at Silverstone...

    Porsche 991 RSR race debut at Silverstone -- Video Link

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    Porsche 911 RSR (Type 991) -- Model Year 2013

    “50 years ago, the first 911 set standards. 40 years ago, it was the turn of the first 911 RSR. Now, more than ever, the new 911 RSR is set to prove that the 911 has what it takes to be a champion.” -- Hartmut Kristen, Head of Porsche Motorsport
     
    In 1963, an idea took shape in the form of the Porsche 911, a thoroughbred sports car now in its seventh generation. Motorsport’s most powerful interpretation of this concept has been realised – exactly 50 years since the 911’s first incarnation – in the new 911 RSR.
     
    And what is the result of working on such a vehicle? The most powerful, fastest and most athletic GT racer that our engineers have ever created. A racing car where performance cannot be measured in horsepower alone. Because there are huge expectations before it goes anywhere.
     
    Such is the destiny of a vehicle that, over the course of five decades, has become synonymous with the sports car. It must live up to 60 years of Porsche Motorsport success and more than 30,000 race victories. This great motorsporting family eagerly awaits the 911 RSR’s debut at the FIA World Endurance Championship with Porsche AG Team Manthey.
     
    There is no doubt that anticipation around the new 911 RSR is high. But we are confident that this car has what it takes. Because it is not just the sum of our experience and our successes over decades – it is the quintessence of a story.
     
     
    Motorsport involvement from the outset. With every 100th of a second utilised.
     
    “The 911 has participated in motorsport for 50 years. And the RSR is still a 911. Once again, the engineers at Porsche have done a great job. That is why we have just one ambition: to drive it to victory.” -- Olaf Manthey, team manager, Porsche AG Team Manthey
     
    The new 911 RSR is bound by a tradition that we have been putting into practice since the first second of our existence. In fact the very first Porsche, the 356, proved it was capable of winning shortly after completion.
     
    Its successor, the 911, followed suit by entering the 1965 Monte Carlo Rally just three months after series production commenced and achieving its first class win. As well as impressing its opponents, this success amazed everyone. It was no longer possible to discern the difference between a sports car and a racing car because, for Porsche, there is basically no difference.
     
    For exactly 50 years now, the 911 has been shaping motorsport – which is just the way it should be. We’ve entered a host of different race series, ranging from national championships to international events like the American Le Mans Series. On and off-road. From classics like the Paris to Dakar Rally or the 24 Hours Nürburgring to one-make championships and GT sport.
     
    With the new 911 RSR and coinciding with the anniversary of a legend, our tradition is more vibrant and dynamic than ever. It aligns the pioneering spirit and skills of our engineers with Ferry Porsche’s dream of building a sports car capable of winning on the racetrack. The experience gained there flows back into series production. A vision that has captured countless people’s imaginations for decades.
     
     
    The most intense pressure of all: the desire to excel.
     
    “Obviously Porsche has a great heritage as a company. The 911 is now fifty years old. Its engine has always remained in the same position. But for the RSR we have optimised it even further.” -- Jacques Hendrikse, Race Operations Manager
     
    When it comes to winning and when thinking about the future, we consider even the tiniest detail: every part of the vehicle, every single screw, and every second of every lap. A lightweight construction is clearly imperative. At 1,245 kg, the 911 RSR adheres precisely to the minimum weight specified by FIA World Endurance Championship regulations.
     
    From the very start, the vehicle was designed to be suitable for long-distance racing. A new body structure with a longer wheelbase and new intake air ducting provides a platform for pure power that is just waiting to be unleashed. That is supplied by a water-cooled, horizontally opposed six-cylinder engine with a four-litre capacity. In figures this translates as 338 kW (approx. 470 hp) – limited by a restrictor. Output is transferred to the rear axle by a new six-speed sequential Porsche GT racing gearbox. Paddles deliver faster, more comfortable gearshifts.
     
    To control the 911 RSR’s undeniable forward thrust, the brake system has six-piston monobloc fixed brake calipers at the front and four-piston units at the rear. Featuring a double-wishbone suspension at the front and multi-link rear axle, adjustable shock absorbers and anti-roll bars, the chassis superbly handles any manoeuvre – on straights as well as chicanes.
     
    The axle geometry further optimises aerodynamics for even greater efficiency. Less drag coupled with increased downforce reduces the tendency to understeer and allows higher speeds when cornering.
     
    From the development process onwards, another aspect has also received particular attention: safety. Our engineers’ uncompromising approach on this extreme interpretation of sportiness is evident from the weld-in roll cage, the overhauled FT3 safety tank and the optimised fire extinguishing system. Clear evidence of the importance that Porsche attaches to safety in motorsport, irrespective of the emphasis on lightweight construction.
     
     
    A timeline that has been leading to the future since 1963: the racing line.
     
    “Personally and quintessentially, this is the best RSR ever.” -- Jörg Bergmeister, Porsche works driver
     
    The quintessence of a success story. For some it is the ideal culmination, for Porsche only an interim stage in our journey. To coincide with the fiftieth anniversary, the new 911 RSR is the most concentrated form of this classic sports car that we’ve ever produced. And perhaps brings us ever closer to the perfect thoroughbred racing car.
     
    It carries the motorsport gene inside and with it – from the Weissach Development Centre to racetracks around the world. It brings back something that, for Porsche, has always been more precious than victory, honour or glory: knowledge. Experiences that can take future generations of the 911 even further. Technology that proves itself on the racetrack prior to its application in series production. Not just to keep Ferry Porsche’s dream of the perfect racing car alive but to continually reinvigorate our quest.
     
     
    Holding your position is a question of physics. And attitude.
     
    “For 50 years, we have systematically evolved the 911’s proven vehicle concept, optimising each and every component according to its importance in terms of performance and reliability.” -- Marco Ujhasi, Porsche 911 RSR project manager
     
    No-one can deny their roots. The Porsche heritage affects the way every one of our cars responds, including the new 911 RSR. All athletes strive to improve their performance. Every high-achieving sports personality is determined to transcend their own limits.
     
    The new 911 RSR originates from an area of unspoilt beauty close to Stuttgart: the Development Centre is located in Weissach with the Motorsport Centre in nearby Flacht. Here, an extreme sports personality was created based on the seventh generation of the 911. Made by hand with millimetre precision, it embodies many years of experience and skill.
     
    Each individual vehicle presents a mechanical and technical challenge, which is risen to by employees dedicated to this task alone. Constant dialogue with works drivers ensures that their ideas are incorporated. All this happens with the aim of giving the Porsche factory team the best possible tool for their return to long-distance GT racing. The entire development process behind the new top Porsche GT racing model is driven by passion, engineering talent, craftsmanship and practicality. Because at Porsche we are not just focused on increasing performance, but on achieving outstanding performance. A claim to which the 911’s fifty-year success story attests.
     
     
    The best way to celebrate the 911’s birthday? An endurance test on the racetrack.
     
    “It’s a very special situation: returning to professional motorsport with a factory team in the anniversary year. And, as a driver, being part of this major project.” -- Richard Lietz, Porsche works driver
     
    The new 911 RSR was specially developed to compete in the FIA World Endurance Championship (WEC). 2013 sees us finally returning to GT factory racing after an eleven-year absence and just in time for the 911’s fiftieth birthday. The FIA WEC replaced the former Intercontinental Le Mans Cup in 2012. Now, for the first time since 1992, there is a long-distance race series with FIA World Championship status.
     
    The Porsche AG Team Manthey factory team has entered the GTE Pro class with two 911 RSR. Drivers Jörg Bergmeister and Patrick Pilet along with Richard Lietz and Marc Lieb are representing Porsche Motorsport across four continents. Over the first three races each vehicle will have three drivers, with Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas supporting the driver teams in their quest for victory.
     
    The race calendar incorporates a mixture of venues steeped in motorsport history and new tracks. In this, the anniversary year of a legendary sports car, the new 911 RSR is appearing at Silverstone, Spa, Le Mans, São Paulo, Austin, Fuji, Shanghai and Bahrain. All races last for six hours with the exception of what is probably the most famous: during the classic race at Le Mans, the 911 RSR will be tested to its limits for a whole 24 hours. Thereby proving that it rightly bears those three digits – 911.
     

    Porsche 911 RSR (Type 991) -- Model Year 2013 -- Gallery Link

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    The new Porsche 911 RSR: "Quintessence of a success story..."

    "The quintessence of a success story. For some it is the ideal culmination, for Porsche only an interim stage in our journey. To coincide with the fiftieth anniversary, the new 911 RSR is the most concentrated form of this classic sports car that we've ever produced. And perhaps brings us ever closer to the perfect thoroughbred racing car..."

    The new Porsche 911 RSR: "Quintessence of a success story..." -- Video Link

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    Re: 991 RSR

    Porsche 911 RSR -- a few more pics...

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    Re: 991 RSR

    I hope 991 RSR gets an updated motor or more performance breaks because it looked very slow at silverstone. Lemans will be a disaster if they dont improve by LM24. How the hell did the astons get so quick? I wish rules allowed manufactures a budget and they could choose what to builld and run.


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    Nice pictures !! anybody got them in hires?  It's such a pain finding decent car wallpapers for the MAcbook Pro with retina display   laugh


    Re: 991 RSR

    996cal:

    I hope 991 RSR gets an updated motor or more performance breaks because it looked very slow at silverstone. Lemans will be a disaster if they dont improve by LM24.

    New motor is not coming until next year (according to the rumors). Porsche does not need more performance breaks. The Astons need to have some of the performance breaks taken away from them.

     

    How the hell did the astons get so quick?

    The Astons are the car with the most performance breaks. They have performance breaks in every category of possible  BoP. They have larger gas tanks, larger air restrictors (twice the size of the Porsche restrictors) they have a weight break, and finally they have a break on the height of their rear wing. The ACO needs to seriously revise all their breaks or no one will even come close to them at LM.


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    Enmanuel:

    Nice pictures !! anybody got them in hires?  It's such a pain finding decent car wallpapers for the MAcbook Pro with retina display   laugh

    Hi  Enmanuel -- click on the below images to view wallpaper images of the 991 RSR...

    ...in glorious High Definition! Smiley

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    Re: 991 RSR

    F A B U L O U S - in Istanbul airport on  a 6 hour layover (too much vino in the lounge) but that is just about the sexiest thing I have ever seen

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    Porsche 991 RSR: "Let's Go Racing..."

    "The Porsche 911 RSR finished fourth at its World Endurance Championship (WEC) debut at Silverstone on 14th April 2013...."

    Porsche 991 RSR: Let's Go Racing -- Video Link

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    Porsche 991 RSR -- Vehicle Test on the Racetrack...

    "The new 911 RSR has just finished its first race at the FIA World Endurance Championship in Silverstone. In this video, the team tells you all about the preparation and testing in the forerun of the season..."

    Porsche 991 RSR -- Vehicle Test on the Racetrack -- Video Link

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    Porsche 991 RSR preparing for Spa 6-hour race...

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    Re: 991 RSR

    As far as I know, there have not yet been any BoP changes (especially for the Astons), so I expect another walk in the park for them (unless of course they hold back in order not to get BoP for Le Mans) . Lamentable!


    Re: 991 RSR

    Oh dear! Porsche last and second last in qualifying (GTE).

    As predicted, the Astons are quickest.


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    Just seems that there's something wrong with the way it takes so long for BoP to be changed - what's the point of taking part with one arm tied behind your back...?


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    Re: 991 RSR

    It's not so much that Porsche has a hand tied behind their back, as the Astons have a rocket up their rectum's.

     


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    Is this the current status of the FIA WEC Balance of Performance for LM GTE?

    LM GTE: 2013 BALANCE OF PERFORMANCE ADJUSTMENTS ANNOUNCED

     
    (8 March 2013)
     
    Following a recent meeting of the Endurance Committee in Paris, the Balance of Performance adjustments for both the LMGTE Pro and Am classes of the FIA World Endurance Championship have been set.  These adjustments are made against the base figures set in the 2013 Technical Regulations; these come into immediate effect and are equally applicable for the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
     
    Vincent Beaumesnil, Sporting Director of the ACO, said: “The Balance of Performance for the LMGTE Pro and Am cars has been unveiled for the new season.  The Balance of Performance for 2013 for each car entered for the FIA WEC and for Le Mans has been arrived at using data from various sources.  Of course the performance of the cars will be monitored throughout the season and the BoP will be adjusted if necessary.”
     
    Taking into account data provided by the manufacturers, adjustments can be made to any, or all, of five different areas of the car:  weight, the diameter of air restrictors, the size of the Gurney on the rear wing, fuel tank capacity and the size of the distance between the top of the rear wing and the roof of the car. 
     
    For the LMGTE Pro category, the Porsche GT3 RSR (997) and the Porsche GT3 RSR (991) will receive an adjustment of weight (-35kg) from the baseline 1245 kg, and +0.7mm to the two restrictors (28.6mm). The same modifications apply to the LMGTE Am Porsche 997. The Porsche GT3 RSR (991) will also have a reduction of -100mm in the height of the rear wing from the roof of the car.
     
    The Ferrari F458 Italia will also receive an adjustment, applicable to both Pro and Am classes, of weight (-10kg), a reduction of -5 litres from the standard 90 litre fuel tank capacity and a reduction of -100mm in the height of the rear wing from the roof of the car.
     
    Aston Martin Racing’s Vantage V8s will benefit from -40kg in weight, balanced with +1.4mm on the restrictors (28.3mm).  The British cars have also received an adjustment to the rear wing Gurney (-10mm) and +5 litres to the fuel tank capacity.  Again, these changes are applicable for both Pro and Am entries.
     
    The final FIA WEC car featured in the latest decisions from the Endurance Committee is the LMGTE Am Corvette C6R which receives +5 kg in weight, +1.3mm in diameter of restrictors (27.9mm) and a reduction of -25mm in the height of the rear wing from the roof of the car.
     
     

    ...it would be interesting to know how the 991 RSR would perform unrestricted... 

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    Yes, these are the balance of performance tables.

    Note: The RSR was given 0.7 bigger restrictors. This means that  more air getting to the engine. The bigger the restrictor size, the more power is given.

    Note: The F458 is the only car that is racing with the original sized restrictors.

    Note: As I have previously mentioned, the Astons have BoP breaks in every category possible. This is what I am hoping gets corrected before Le Mans.

     

    Independently of all this, Porsche is really showing some disappointing form. To me it has become horribly obvious that the 911 under the current rules (and BoP) is simply not competitive. (This has been the case for the last 2 years). The long-in-the-tooth Mezger simply does not have torque to cope with the big V8's. As someone at Corvette racing said: "They (the ACO) can restrict power (through air restrictors) , but they cant restrict torque".

    Porsche has two choices:

    1. It asks for a BoP adjustment which will make it competitive ....for a while. The down side of this choice is that the opposition will move on , and with further development on their cars, they will move ahead once again. Porsche will find itself playing the catch-up game once again. A sad state of affairs for a company that once produced the benchmark car for GT racing. The other down side is that its credibility will be shot (at least with the hard core racing fans)

    2. It recognizes the 911's limitations. Retires it (at 50 - in car years) to mono make racing and club events (essentially making it a true global privateer customer car), and brings out the mid-engined 960 with a V8 (or Flat 8) that is capable of competing with the current cars in GTE. Porsche needs to place itself at the front of the field again. Let the others play the catch-up game.

    Bring on the 960 ASAP. 

     


    Re: 991 RSR

    Do you think that if Porsche allowed the Cayman to race with the RSR engine ( and releasing the corresponding road cars), things would have been different? 

     


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    reginos:

    Do you think that if Porsche allowed the Cayman to race with the RSR engine (and releasing the corresponding road cars), things would have been different? 

    There's a team of engineers in Weissach asking the same question...

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    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    reginos:

    Do you think that if Porsche allowed the Cayman to race with the RSR engine (and releasing the corresponding road cars), things would have been different? 

    There's a team of engineers in Weissach asking the same question...

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    Let's hope they come with an answer soon!


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    Re: 991 RSR

    2013 FIA WEC Spa 6 Hours -- Qualifying Session...

    2013 FIA WEC Spa 6 Hours -- Qualifying Session -- Video Link

    2013 Porsche 991 RSR at Spa: "More than just Eau Rouge..."

    2013 Porsche 991 RSR at Spa: "More than just Eau Rouge..." -- Video Link

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    Once again a poor race by Porsche... Hope on Le Mans...


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