11-ott-2012 8.12.26
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11-ott-2012 8.12.26
BjoernB:
+1 - I was hoping the GT3 gets somehow a different interior as well - something that distinguish the most sporty version from a base - but I am sure they will bring a GT3wheel with different paddles than those. I kind of smile everytime I see a 997Mk2 because it looks now somehow much smaller to me - like a 993turbo - very desirable.
If the shiny bits in the interior (alu or silver painted plastic) are substituted with black or carbon the ambiance will be more sporty IMO.
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reginos:
BjoernB:
+1 - I was hoping the GT3 gets somehow a different interior as well - something that distinguish the most sporty version from a base - but I am sure they will bring a GT3wheel with different paddles than those. I kind of smile everytime I see a 997Mk2 because it looks now somehow much smaller to me - like a 993turbo - very desirable.
If the shiny bits in the interior (alu or silver painted plastic) are substituted with black or carbon the ambiance will be more sporty IMO.
And if they were made out alu right from the start, nobody would complain.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Gnil:
That interior does not suit a GT3 . I know they can't make a new one and have to use the ' panamerish' inside from the base Carrera . But I do hope they put a different PDK gear level, this one still looks like the old tiptronic
+1
I am having trouble with this interior too. Some carbon and alcantara might sort it out in the final product, but it does come across as too elegant.
Anyway, what really matters it how it drives and how it feels to drive
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
bluelines:
Gnil:
That interior does not suit a GT3 . I know they can't make a new one and have to use the ' panamerish' inside from the base Carrera . But I do hope they put a different PDK gear level, this one still looks like the old tiptronic
+1
I am having trouble with this interior too. Some carbon and alcantara might sort it out in the final product, but it does come across as too elegant.
Anyway, what really matters it how it drives and how it feels to drive
You can carbon- fiber it up to your dreams- just check the $$$ options boxes
MKW:
bluelines:
Gnil:
That interior does not suit a GT3 . I know they can't make a new one and have to use the ' panamerish' inside from the base Carrera . But I do hope they put a different PDK gear level, this one still looks like the old tiptronic
+1
I am having trouble with this interior too. Some carbon and alcantara might sort it out in the final product, but it does come across as too elegant.
Anyway, what really matters it how it drives and how it feels to drive
You can carbon- fiber it up to your dreams- just check the $$$ options boxes
True
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
11-ott-2012 20.30.23
Porsche 991 GT3 vs 918 Spyder vs 991 Turbo vs 991 Turbo Cabrio vs 981 Cayman...
Porsche 991 GT3 vs 918 Spyder -- Video Link 1
Porsche 991 Turbo vs 991 Turbo Cabrio -- Video Link 2
Porsche 991 Turbo Cabrio vs 981 Cayman -- Video Link 3
11-ott-2012 20.57.56
rhino:
Wow nice work Wildspeed!
There is only one problem: The 991 Turbo won't look that way. One of the strong points of the 911 Turbo was always it's somehow "stealth look". The 991 Turbo in the photoshop images looks too aggressive. It is however quite close to the final product.
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15-ott-2012 22.27.06
2013 Porsche 991 GT3 mules track testing at Nurburgring...
2013 Porsche 991 GT3 mules track testing at Nurburgring -- Autogespot Link
These pictures make me wonder: will there be a GT3 without a fixed wing and an RS version with a fixed wing or so?
(Or a GT3 and a GT3s, to stick with the "normal" naming convention from the base carrera models)
I am a strong believer in the aero kit of my 997, but whatever this design language of the potential new GT3 is all about - the rear spoiler is kind of difficult to look at...maybe aerodynamics are alright, but to me the sport design package would be my preferred choice for a GT3.
Joost:
These pictures make me wonder: will there be a GT3 without a fixed wing and an RS version with a fixed wing or so?
(Or a GT3 and a GT3s, to stick with the "normal" naming convention from the base carrera models)
Would love a "stealth" GT3 in the classic shape with no wing. If it also offers rear seats I am in
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
bluelines:
Joost:
These pictures make me wonder: will there be a GT3 without a fixed wing and an RS version with a fixed wing or so?
(Or a GT3 and a GT3s, to stick with the "normal" naming convention from the base carrera models)Would love a "stealth" GT3 in the classic shape with no wing. If it also offers rear seats I am in
It's called a GTS... (OK, I'm pushing it but...)
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Budster:
bluelines:
Joost:
These pictures make me wonder: will there be a GT3 without a fixed wing and an RS version with a fixed wing or so?
(Or a GT3 and a GT3s, to stick with the "normal" naming convention from the base carrera models)Would love a "stealth" GT3 in the classic shape with no wing. If it also offers rear seats I am in
It's called a GTS... (OK, I'm pushing it but...)
True, almost. Engine and suspension needs to change to GT3 items, then the GTS is perfect for me. Not that the S engine with power kit is bad in anyway, but it does not have the lovely character of GT3 engine. It is close, but not quite there. The suspension is more important though, the GT3 has a sharpness and directness which leaves the S/GTS feeling pretty numb in comparison (even with SPASM -20mm option).
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
16-ott-2012 20.36.13
Budster:
bluelines:
Joost:
These pictures make me wonder: will there be a GT3 without a fixed wing and an RS version with a fixed wing or so?
(Or a GT3 and a GT3s, to stick with the "normal" naming convention from the base carrera models)Would love a "stealth" GT3 in the classic shape with no wing. If it also offers rear seats I am in
It's called a GTS... (OK, I'm pushing it but...)
...maybe we will see a "2013 Porsche 991 R" unveiled to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the 1963 Porsche 911...
The 911 was premiered at the IAA in Frankfurt in 1963 as the Porsche 901. But a French car company claimed copyright over the use of all model numbers with zero in the middle. Porsche therefore renamed the 901 the 911 – that three figure number which still raises the heartbeat of every sports car fan.
16-ott-2012 21.57.36
"Not that the S engine with power kit is bad in anyway, but it does not have the lovely character of GT3 engine."
Forget about it. It will be like the GTS without a backseat and better suspension (maybe). The Metzger engine is dead. The Gt3 will have to use a version of the S motor - maybe higher RPM and sound but the SWEET engine you dream of is long gone - you need to get a 997 GT3 for that. End of an era, too bad.
17-ott-2012 4.36.36
Leawood911:
"Not that the S engine with power kit is bad in anyway, but it does not have the lovely character of GT3 engine."
Forget about it. It will be like the GTS without a backseat and better suspension (maybe). The Metzger engine is dead. The Gt3 will have to use a version of the S motor - maybe higher RPM and sound but the SWEET engine you dream of is long gone - you need to get a 997 GT3 for that. End of an era, too bad.
The GT3 is built by Weissach. It will not be a tuned S with a wing from the parts bin. Look at the last road legal cars that came out of Weissach: GT2 RS and GT3 RS 4.0. Add to this that the new 991 GT3 will serve a homologation platform for Porsche's motorsport activities.
I am sure a high revving 9A1 engine with titanium rods, aggressive cams, etc. will have a lovely character Since none of us has driven it yet we cannot say that it is better or worse than the Metzger engine.
Every generation is the end of an era... and the beginning of a new era
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
bluelines:The GT3 is built by Weissach. It will not be a tuned S with a wing from the parts bin. Look at the last road legal cars that came out of Weissach: GT2 RS and GT3 RS 4.0.
I don't now how this little myth started, but I recently read it somewhere else as well, so someone appears to be spreading it around.
The GT2 and GT3 models were built on the same assembly lines as all the other 911 variants in Zuffenhausen.
The GT models just differ from the other 911 models in as much as the GT models were developed by the Motor Sport department in one part of the Weissach R&D facility, whilst the other 911 variants were developed by other teams also in Weissach.
fritz
fritz:
bluelines:The GT3 is built by Weissach. It will not be a tuned S with a wing from the parts bin. Look at the last road legal cars that came out of Weissach: GT2 RS and GT3 RS 4.0.
I don't now how this little myth started, but I recently read it somewhere else as well, so someone appears to be spreading it around.
The GT2 and GT3 models were built on the same assembly lines as all the other 911 variants in Zuffenhausen.
The GT models just differ from the other 911 models in as much as the GT models were developed by the Motor Sport department in one part of the Weissach R&D facility, whilst the other 911 variants were developed by other teams also in Weissach.
That is correct. All road cars are built at Zuffenhausen etc. The only cars built in Weissach are the GT3R, RSR and maybe the Cup cars but I'm not even sure about the latter.
The 918 won't be built in Weissach either. Weissach is the R&D center.
17-ott-2012 9.39.49
17-ott-2012 9.42.08
Talk again of the mid-engined "960" model .
Apologies for the vague meaning of built by. With this I meant developed by, not assembled by. Obviously the assembly is quite irrelevant for the features of the car.
Porsche 997 Carrera S in Carrara White with black leather interior. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
Audi S5 cabrio in Ibis White with black leather interior.
17-ott-2012 15.37.42
Again - it will be a version of the S motor - i.e. 9A1. It may be a better engine, newer generation all that - but the GT3 of old is dead. That WAS a sweet motor and it is gone. No way the 9A1 will have the same character. Thought it may be more powerful.