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    Sep 18, 2012 3:57:15 PM

    neunelf
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    McLaren P1 - Official

    Just got an email from McLaren announcing the P1 as the ultimate sports car and showing a rather playful back end of the new car. I wished I could post the image from my iPhone...

    Sep 18, 2012 3:58:20 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Found a way:  http://mclarenautomotive-news.com/V8A-YR9X-4D479REF10/cr.aspx

    Sep 18, 2012 4:09:29 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

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    Sep 18, 2012 4:09:58 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Give me a 918 any time...


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:13:48 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/paris-motor-show-2012/mclaren-p1-%C2%A3800k-supercar-revealed-paris-show

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    Sep 18, 2012 4:14:26 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Rossi:

    Give me a 918 any time...

    +1


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:16:43 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    It is ugly as hell... Simply tasteless, unintelligent...very curvy... I was expecting something much more. Now, once again, I have realised that F1 was a diamond in Mclaren history.

    Telling about it as a successor of F1 is only spoiling F1 image...

    In terms of technics it can be interesting, but no real revolution...short boost kers, monocell monocoque almost the same as in MP4-12C, revised front and rear subframes...quite light although, around 1300kg

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    Sep 18, 2012 4:18:48 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    This car makes the MP4-12C look good... mail


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:20:10 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Rossi:

    This car makes the MP4-12C look good... mail

    I think you have just seen through their strategy............Smiley


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:33:38 PM

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    fritz:
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    This car makes the MP4-12C look good... mail

    I think you have just seen through their strategy............Smiley

    New way of making money))) Spoil hi-end product to sell lower better)))


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:38:24 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    what's the intended target population... 16 year olds? broken heart


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:44:35 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Rossi:

    This car makes the MP4-12C look good... mail

    The MP4 got a lot of bad press for looking too civil. Seems like McLaren is missing the mark on the opposite end of the spectrum this time. Maybe their next car will be a beauty, smack in the middle between over the top and slightly boring.

    Sep 18, 2012 4:44:39 PM

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    Maybe Asian market? This car is not for Europe 100%


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    Sep 18, 2012 4:46:10 PM

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    Mclaren should develop F1 design, it would be much better! Even today F1 doesn't look outdated.


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    Sep 18, 2012 5:02:01 PM

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    I am not in love with it or in awe of it, but it looks very modern and hi tech. I like it much more than the somewhat conservative and timid 918. Performance of course will be mental, as is the case with all hypercars.

    PS: I always found the F1 visually boring as hell.


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    Sep 18, 2012 5:11:30 PM

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    The 918 looks perfect in my eyes. It preserves the looks of its ancestors and it improves on them. Like the more beautiful grandchild of a beautiful grandparent. Why divert for the sake of it when your inherent design has power combined with timeless elegance? 


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    Sep 18, 2012 5:15:49 PM

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    Totally agree! Porsche has breed in their design. New mclaren is mongrel dog. Mix of different styling elements that don't make united concept. 


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    Sep 18, 2012 5:28:45 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Profile is nice, front and back are cartoonish. the weight is fantastic! Dry or Kerb 1300 kgs?

    I'm sceptical about the usability of KERS on the open road, should be quite something. I still prefer the timeless F1.

     

    Sep 18, 2012 5:39:21 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    ......the 918 is no "beauty" either.

    Sep 18, 2012 6:02:56 PM

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    964C2:

    ......the 918 is no "beauty" either.

    Yes it is! Smiley


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    Sep 18, 2012 6:07:29 PM

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    964C2:

    ......the 918 is no "beauty" either.

    You should know better by now. Critisising P cars is prohibited in here. Smiley


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    Sep 18, 2012 6:39:55 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    You are free to write anywhere elseSmiley


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    Sep 18, 2012 7:15:20 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    REALZEUS:
    964C2:

    ......the 918 is no "beauty" either.

    You should know better by now. Critisising P cars is prohibited in here. Smiley


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    I am big Porsche fan and IMHO 918 is far from any form of "beauty". 918 interior is far superior in desing then its exterior, again IMHO.

    P1? Ugly... BUT, according to what I know much faster then 918.Smiley

    Sep 18, 2012 7:28:10 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    Super lame. Looks like a 12C with a generic exotic car design flair.

    Sep 18, 2012 9:18:54 PM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    1300 kg ( vs the F1 's 1150 kg ) is pretty amazing when you have to factor in the weight/mass added in the intervening 18 yrs for current safety , braking, traction mgmt requirements all cars today have .

     

    That's about 320 kg less than most current Tier 1 competitors - like carrying 4 fewer adults in the car !Smiley

     

     

    Sep 19, 2012 5:13:16 AM

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    I like it! kiss

    IMHO it's targeting towards the F70 and not the 918...

    LdM won't be to happy about it as it'll give the F a hard time!? yes

    Sep 19, 2012 5:19:27 AM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    There isn't a single angle, profile, or surface on that car that stirs my emotion. The application of the Mclaren logo as a design element in the headlights is cartoonish. All Mclaren had to do from an exterior design perspective was refresh and tweak the F1, which 20 years later still has amazing aesthetics.

    Sep 19, 2012 6:02:51 AM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    I don't find it that bad. McLaren is till looking for it's own style. The car will probably look much better in the flesh and with another color. The back could actually be interesting .  The weight figure is impressive. The MP4 was not  striking in deseign either  when shown for the first time, but people got used to it and it does look much better in real life then on photos.


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    Sep 19, 2012 7:02:59 AM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    I kind of like it, it looks different. I'm not a fan of the color either, I'm sure it will look better in silver, grey or white.


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    Sep 19, 2012 7:10:27 AM

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    Re: McLaren P1 - Official

    I don't dislike it. On the other hand, it doesn't send a shiver down my spine either.

     
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