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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    It would have made even more sense with R10 and RS10 since the 8 was already taken and there is little in common between the R8 and the A8 indecision


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    bluelines:

    It would have made even more sense with R10 and RS10 since the 8 was already taken and there is little in common between the R8 and the A8 indecision

    This would make a lot of sense, provided that the Plus will stay as the top model Smiley

     The R8 road car was at the time named to coincide with the R8 racing car. But since the racing prototype is R18 now, they didn't have to stick exclusively to the R8 name. 

    R8 for V8

    R10 for V10

    RS10 for the V10 Plus.

     


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    Onur,

    Regarding price difference between 458 and R8 V10 plus it is with same equipment at least 50K € in Germany. R8 V10 plus standard equipment is CF front spoiler, rear diffusor, engine bay trim and interior trim. All these items cost a small fortune on 458. Buckets are also standard, as is a Navigation. Full LED front lights are standard(AFL Bixenons are optional on 458).

    458 that was used for Sport Auto Supertest costed almost 240K € with all CF items etc.Smiley

    You simply can not compare R8 V10, even in plus version against 458, MP4-12C or SLS AMG GT. They are much, much more expensive. So, for that extra amount of cash you expect slightly better performance level.Smiley

    R8 is(and always was) positioned as 911 alternative for those that want midengine sportscar, but are not willing to pay for above 200K €(again, German prices) for it.

    Personally, I am very, very tempted by R8 V10 plus. Just... IF I can get 991 Turbo(or even 991 GT3 with PDK) for the same money I will go for Porsche.SmileySmiley


    Re: Audi R8 FL

    KresoF1:

    R8 is(and always was) positioned as 911 alternative for those that want midengine sportscar, but are not willing to pay for above 200K €(again, German prices) for it.

    In fact the R8 is the type of car Porsche could and should be making themselves (V8, Turbo and Turbo S) in RWD and AWD versions, above the 911. The character fits the Porsche philosophy and they could be charging 5-10% more than Audi depending on model. But I guess  the Porsche engineers at too busy with the SUVs and saloons.


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    KresoF1:

    Onur,

    Regarding price difference between 458 and R8 V10 plus it is with same equipment at least 50K € in Germany. R8 V10 plus standard equipment is CF front spoiler, rear diffusor, engine bay trim and interior trim. All these items cost a small fortune on 458. Buckets are also standard, as is a Navigation. Full LED front lights are standard(AFL Bixenons are optional on 458).

    458 that was used for Sport Auto Supertest costed almost 240K € with all CF items etc.Smiley

    You simply can not compare R8 V10, even in plus version against 458, MP4-12C or SLS AMG GT. They are much, much more expensive. So, for that extra amount of cash you expect slightly better performance level.Smiley

    R8 is(and always was) positioned as 911 alternative for those that want midengine sportscar, but are not willing to pay for above 200K €(again, German prices) for it.

    Personally, I am very, very tempted by R8 V10 plus. Just... IF I can get 991 Turbo(or even 991 GT3 with PDK) for the same money I will go for Porsche.SmileySmiley

    Kreso,

    What I mean is without that much expensive carbon, the price difference between 458 and R8 V10  plus in not that much. Besides, the new Gallardo is just around the corner. So in a year, R8 platform will be old.

    What car do you have now? I thought you bought an SLS. Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    Currently in my family we have Q5 3.0TDI and 535d. No SLS since local Mercedes importer is in "not very best financial health". 535d will be replaced with something else in late August or early September. More info then...


    Re: Audi R8 FL

    KresoF1:

    Currently in my family we have Q5 3.0TDI and 535d.

    Such a great car is..


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    pride355:
    KresoF1:

    Currently in my family we have Q5 3.0TDI and 535d.

    Such a great car is..

    You think so? I am not so impressed. Turbo lag is actually bigger on 535d then on 530d(same 8speed auto on both). I need to try M550d X drive which is virtually lag free.


    Re: Audi R8 FL

    Kreso F1,

    why wouldn't you go for 911 Turbo?


    Re: Audi R8 FL

    IMO the R8 rides and handles better than any 911. It's been some time since I drove the Audi so I cannot readily compare it from memory with the 991, which is an improvement on the 997. The powerful 991s are not out yet, but by the time we see the 991 Turbo the brand new and definitely  improved R8 will be around the corner.

    The main reason I personally got the 997 instead of the R8 was understatement, with 911 heritage a close second. The Audi is too ostentatious for the environment I live and the use I make of the car.


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    I wonder why Audi will use the "Plus" designation on the R8 when so far this was usually used for end of career models , example: S6 Plus, RS 6 Plus ? . Marketing wise a strange decision.


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    Will there be a "Plus badge on the car? I doubt it. It will be recognizable from the styling changes, I expect.

    So, "Plus" is an ordering designation most probably.


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    reginos:

    The main reason I personally got the 997 instead of the R8 was understatement, with 911 heritage a close second. The Audi is too ostentatious for the environment I live and the use I make of the car.


    I fully understand. Smiley


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    Re: Audi R8 FL

    KresoF1:
    pride355:
    KresoF1:

    Currently in my family we have Q5 3.0TDI and 535d.

    Such a great car is..

    You think so? I am not so impressed. Turbo lag is actually bigger on 535d then on 530d(same 8speed auto on both). I need to try M550d X drive which is virtually lag free.

    M550d X is maybe a great car but too expensive for what it is..


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