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Jun 11, 2012 9:44:35 AM
- Jonathanbr
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
HI SFO
car looks fantastic in the white with red, glad I went for full leather - although I've gone with the yachting blue, even the standard 19" Alloys look great and I'm glad to see the coloured crests fit as I still have mine in the garage to go on my car if it ever appears. The painted roll bars also set the car look off well so i'm pleased I specified those as well
Enjoy
Jun 11, 2012 10:13:37 AM
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
Jonathanbr:
HI SFO
car looks fantastic in the white with red, glad I went for full leather - although I've gone with the yachting blue, even the standard 19" Alloys look great and I'm glad to see the coloured crests fit as I still have mine in the garage to go on my car if it ever appears. The painted roll bars also set the car look off well so i'm pleased I specified those as well
Enjoy
look forward to your yachting blue pics!
Jun 11, 2012 10:43:57 AM
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
Yes it will be nice to see my car as well - has spent 22 days not moving at the factory but finally got to Emden on the 5th June - hopefully made it onto a boat over the weekend and maybe will be able to pick it up this weekend.
I'm not holding my breath as it was originally supposed to be Early May then late May and then early June delivery - have asked what compensation might be forthcoming, especially as I had the first customer build slot at dealer
Jun 11, 2012 11:39:12 AM
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Jun 11, 2012 12:17:38 PM
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
done 260 miles already, and have really enjoyed it. marvellous thing.
main gripes are:
1. there is no way to show fuel consumption as part of the standard vehicle display
2. the passenger seat belt buckle bangs on the plastic and rattles on rough roads. on the 987's sport seats, it was possible to have the seat belt buckle brought to the seat by the loop .. no leather loop on 981 sport seats. a real c*ck up IMO.
also the area where the seat belt buckle bangs against on the 987 is carpet (and hence quiet), and on the 981 is plastic, so lots of noise.
So much for teutonic engineering and thoroughness.
I am absolutely loving the DFi engine, so free revving, so urgent, and sounds damn good too. And still not gone beyond 3k rpm.
the manual gearbox is so very different to the OEM short shift I had on my RS60 .. latter was sometimes recalcitrant, and required a good shove. 981 shift is more precise, and by comparison, requires a lot less effort -- too easy, I wish there was a bit more heft to it. But no doubt once run in and I get used to it, it will be fantastic. the elevated centre console does mean that you get on to the gearknob appreciably quicker -- looks good, and has user benefits.
the ride is really compliant, the car feels very light on its feet, yet extremely surefootted. I drove my usual local hoon roads yesterday morning, 981 is so composed, assured and utterly unshakeable when cornering. 987 feels very 2nd division by comparison.
tyres not fully scrubbed in yet, so had some interesting moments yesterday morning.
phenomenal car. I love it, and no doubt will love it even more when brakes, tyres and engine properly bedded in.
Jun 11, 2012 1:42:45 PM
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Jun 11, 2012 3:21:49 PM
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
sfo:981 and Spyder together (Spyder is noticeably lower):
You have PASM in your 981? That makes a 10mm difference, since the Spyder has it as standard, I suppose?
Interesting that the 981 looks so much wider... it is wider, but the light arrangement and overall design enhances the wider look.
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
Kelderek:
sfo:981 and Spyder together (Spyder is noticeably lower):
You have PASM in your 981? That makes a 10mm difference, since the Spyder has it as standard, I suppose?
Interesting that the 981 looks so much wider... it is wider, but the light arrangement and overall design enhances the wider look.
no PASM on my 981, no PASM on Spyder either. But Spyder has sports suspension with 20mm drop.
Spyder is not my car, it's a mate's, who also has a Cayman R :)
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
sfo:
dr.j:
Beautiful car sfo, thanks very much for sharing the pics! I've been trying to get through the final few decisions on a 981S spec that should be Sept. delivery, also a manual.
what's your spec? what are you unsure about?
Guess the big questions are does the 981S manual really need sport chrono and has the standard exhaust note improved to the point that it's close to the old 987S PSE? If it has I think I'll be happy without PSE. I'm also leaning towards no sport chrono.
Will try to start a new topic later today with the current spec. Still admiring your stunning combo and now wondering about Dark Blue/Luxor. 
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
RC:
sfo:
It's not about getting there as fast as you can, it's about getting there while really enjoying the ride ...I agree PDK is awesome (drove the 991S with PDK etc), but it's too digital for me.
And I don't have a beard!
PDK is digital ? Are you still using an analogue walkman or an iPod ?
Congrats on not having a beard (this is kind of weird you mention it
) but hey, I don't have a beard either, at least not in my face.
Yes, PDK is digital. You shift with your fingers.
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
dr.j:
Guess the big questions are does the 981S manual really need sport chrono and has the standard exhaust note improved to the point that it's close to the old 987S PSE? If it has I think I'll be happy without PSE. I'm also leaning towards no sport chrono.Will try to start a new topic later today with the current spec. Still admiring your stunning combo and now wondering about Dark Blue/Luxor.
personally don't see the need for SC on a manual box .. no launch control (pointless anyway), and dynamic transmission mounts are a gimmick as engine is in between the axles. The gearbox is behind the rear axle, and is 30kgs lighter than PDK. no reason for it.
981 exhaust is way more vocal than 987. On cold start up, it makes a lovely loud throaty sound for about 20 seconds, then settles. I had PSE on my RS60 Spyder, but not 981. 981 is slightly quieter than 987 PSE on, but not by much. 981 non PSE is an honest, mechanical, vocal and refined guttural sound .. IMO, it doesn't need amplication and adornment of PSE. It's a very different and a much more precise mechanical sound, compared to the more heavy rock/metal sound of the 987 Gen I PSE. I much prefer the 981 sound, and the DFi engine leagues ahead of the non DFi 987 engine.
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
Thanks sfo, excellent information. I feel confident I'm making the right choice and wont miss these 2 options. Never missed sport chrono on my 987S manual and thought throttle response was excellent. Also great to read more about the sound quality of your 981. 
Trying my best to show a little spec-discipline and keep my car from entering 991 price territory.
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
dr.j:
Trying my best to show a little spec-discipline and keep my car from entering 991 price territory.
me too ..
only thing I didn't add which I would now add is climate control. the standard a/c seems to require constant adjustment. in fact, I think there's a fault .. even when set to no heat, it still seems to throw out warm (warmer than ambient) air.
Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
derder:
surprisingly the body shape of the Spyder doesnt look superceded at all next to the 981.
but when u put a 987.2 next to a 981.......
kinda regret never owning a Spyder.
i think you are right on that one - the Spyder will be one of the few collectable Porsches
imo the 997 doesn't hold up as well against the 991 -
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2012 991 C2S -PDK / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold / 2008 Cayenne GTS Manual /2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold
Jun 29, 2012 9:05:45 AM
- BlackOctober
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Re: Goodbye RS60 Spyder ... Hello 981S
To continue about "badly misaligned" body parts on the new Boxster. Today I saw 981 in flesh for the first time, and I must say - it is very beautiful Boxster!
But I noticed that the tail lights are misaligned.....I'm not sure about it,but I let you guys judge.......
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Jun 29, 2012 3:20:16 PM
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