991 Carrera - New Exclusive Department Options
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Isn't that a bit quick after the launch of the Carrera S? Strikes me as this is the car they should have as standard: they wouldn't have held back on purpose to charge extra for the power pack would they?
(Warning: the above question is rhetorical)
Porsche Carrera GTS (2012); Porsche Cayenne Diesel (2012)
How much????
2011 Porsche Carrera 4S Platinum Silver 2013 Porsche Panamera GTS Basalt Black
“The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively”
― Bob Marley
Powerkit is 13804 EUR in Germany...incl. 19% VAT.
The Aerokit Cup is almost 5000 EUR incl. 19% VAT.
The Sport Design kit is almost 4200 EUR incl. 19% VAT.
All prices for factory delivery on a new car.
Tequipment will surely charge more for it (incl. install).
Prices in the USA are:
Aerokit Cup: 5990 USD.
Sport Design kit: 4990 USD.
Judging by the german Powerkit price tag, I suppose the powerkit will be around 15000 USD in the US.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Ouch! It's probably better to buy a GT3...
2011 Porsche Carrera 4S Platinum Silver 2013 Porsche Panamera GTS Basalt Black
“The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively”
― Bob Marley
ag23:
Ouch! It's probably better to buy a GT3...
Not sure about that...you haven't seen the price tag of the next gen 991 GT3 yet...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC,
I sold 12 monts ago my 997GT3 mk2, and not sent to 991 , waiting for gt3 again.
can you tell more about thé new price tag ? Hope it Will not be so expensive..... I expect 115k naked.
am i far ?
Thierry
RC:
991 Cab...
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
I used to prefer the look of the coupe over the cabriolet, but that picture is beyond my vocabulary.
thierry:
RC,
I sold 12 monts ago my 997GT3 mk2, and not sent to 991 , waiting for gt3 again.
can you tell more about thé new price tag ? Hope it Will not be so expensive..... I expect 115k naked.
am i far ?
Thierry
I heard of something between 125k and 130k EUR incl. 19% german VAT.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Hi,
I found this video in a french blog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-Ewayh9jvBcThe "yellow duck" is just amazing...
Need to see it in real.
S.
Jun 27, 2012 12:22:01 AM
Hope this one works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ewayh9jvBc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Jun 27, 2012 6:52:02 AM
I am and never was a friend of spoilers, wings or ducktails.
I actually would love to see a GT3 or GT2 without a wing, same goes to the Turbo.
Don't know why but I just don't like them...
I don't have anything against retractable wings/spoilers though, if they are necessary (aerodynamics).
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Take the Panamera for example: When ordering my car, I was inclined to get the Sport Design package too, even if it doesn't really make a huge difference (visually). The only reason I didn't choose it: It actually worsens aerodynamics. This wouldn't be the first time an Exclusive option would do that and while it really isn't a safety problem, why should I pay more money for worse aerodynamics?!
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (at Porsche right now), BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC:
I am and never was a friend of spoilers, wings or ducktails.
I actually would love to see a GT3 or GT2 without a wing, same goes to the Turbo.
Don't know why but I just don't like them...
I don't have anything against retractable wings/spoilers though, if they are necessary (aerodynamics).
Same here. Of course the big rear spoiler is something like an identifying feature of the Turbo, but I also like the clean, classic shape of the 911. If I could do without a (fixed) rear spoiler at a Turbo, I would certainly go this way. And I would never order something like Aerokit, Sport Design package or similar.
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unlike the aftersales market where people just slap things on their cars for pure looks - with a OEM it mostdefinately does something good to the car - this is like saying who needs the power upgrade for 0.1 sec to 100 km/h - but then people buy options to customize their own car and taste. Spoilers maybe are catching attention - for some it distroys the classic lines - for others it's a welcome change to the mainstream 911....
The shape of the 911 is such that because of its sloping rear, a spoiler is needed to divert air in order to avoid rear lift (hence the motorized Carrera spoiler) but at higher speeds downforce is needed (hence the GT, Turbo wings). It seems to be technically and ergonomically difficult to make these big wings to disappear completely when the cars are moving slowly.
The 991 is a 911 shape with a higher rear that should aid aerodynamic behavior but I don't think it could made any higher, because that will change the whole 911 concept. Even now Porsche friends complain that the 991 rear is too high.
"Form follows function"
Maybe a technical overkill
What puzzles me is that in GT racing all cars have wings although not much faster than the road cars they are based on. Only Porsche fit wings on their road cars too. Why would a Ferrari 458 (already a super fast car) be considered stable without a wing, when its 458 GT sibling needs to carry such an aerodynamic aid? In this case the makeover is not as extreme as the one that turns a road M3 or a Z4 into their GT counterparts which bear hardly any relation to the road going cars.
"Form follows function"
reginos:
Maybe a technical overkill
What puzzles me is that in GT racing all cars have wings although not much faster than the road cars they are based on. Only Porsche fit wings on their road cars too. Why would a Ferrari 458 (already a super fast car) be considered stable without a wing, when its 458 GT sibling needs to carry such an aerodynamic aid? In this case the makeover is not as extreme as the one that turns a road M3 or a Z4 into their GT counterparts which bear hardly any relation to the road going cars.
It is a technical overkill. But, a good one IMHO. 458 Italia? Sensational car, but also a car that in 99% of cases won't be used on the Ring by thier owner. GT3 or GT2 model owners in over 50% of cases are using their cars on the track(for fan) as well. See my point?
Personally, I .like Sport Design package for 991. Did you saw the way spoiler looks on 991 in lifted position? From the back it looks pretty awfull IMO, specially in lighter exterior color.
Jun 27, 2012 4:31:16 PM
It will be interesting to see (in the future) the percentage of 458 Scuderia cars that are used on the track ...
997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red