could we get input feedback from RS 4.0 owners (or people who have driven it) on how it drives. have read all the reviews but more interested to hear from fellow rennsport posters - can you drive it daily? or realistically, is it practical to drive in the city? on normal roads? or is this really a track car? I have RS 3.8 reference, so i am curious if it is a car that straddles track and road as well as the 3.8 does.
bhnyc:
could we get input feedback from RS 4.0 owners (or people who have driven it) on how it drives. have read all the reviews but more interested to hear from fellow rennsport posters - can you drive it daily? or realistically, is it practical to drive in the city? on normal roads? or is this really a track car? I have RS 3.8 reference, so i am curious if it is a car that straddles track and road as well as the 3.8 does.
If you live in a region with lots of potholes, I'm not so sure the 4.0 would be a good daily driver. Everything else should be doable (minus snow and icy conditions of course, also not much fun with rain...tires). If you need a more extensive explanation with details, I'm pretty sure that one or two of our actually owners can provide details. The 4.0 is in my opinion as good a daily driver as the GT3 (without RS).
Just make sure the 4.0 is equipped with the front axle lifting system, it can save you from a lot of daily driving pain.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
thanks RC -
I probably am using the term daily driver wrong, but you are getting to the point I am driving at. I am a newbie - for Rennsport and sport cars. I was on motorcycles for nearly 20 years before selling off my last bike last year and deciding to make my way to 4 wheels.
One of the last bikes I owned was the 1098R homologation bike. It was an amazing bike, but to be honest, the set up was so stiff it was unpleasant to drive anywhere but the track and those special roads. But getting to those special roads was a painful journey.
Since leaving bikes I have been in my brother-in-law's 996 turbo as well as doing two Porsche driving weekends (Barber motorsports, Alabama) and a number of track days with my brother-in-law and his friends. I don't commute, being a city person, but I do need to drive a ways to get to those roads (and tracks) I love.
The GT3 reference is very helpful for me and the nose-lift system is very good advice (one that my brother-in-law have proven out on my garage)
best,
brian
Ferdie:
As far as I remember, the suspension between 3.8 and 4.0 does not feature too many differences. Therefore, if you are fine with noise and comfort on the former, you should be fine with the latter as well.
I agree, and the additional torque (with same gearing) as the 3.8RS should make the 4.0 even easier to get around town at lower speeds.
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
While attending A Porsche function at the dealership I spoke with an owner of a 3.8RS. When I asked him about the car all he would tell me was he drove from San Diego to LA about 100 miles (highway) each way and said it was very uncomfortable. By the time he got home he had a headache and which lasted for a couple of days. Otherwise, he loves the car.
nberry:
While attending A Porsche function at the dealership I spoke with an owner of a 3.8RS. When I asked him about the car all he would tell me was he drove from San Diego to LA about 100 miles (highway) each way and said it was very uncomfortable. By the time he got home he had a headache and which lasted for a couple of days. Otherwise, he loves the car.
That guy is a wimp The man who built my 73RS replica (makes a 3.8RS seem like a Cadillac) drove it from Montreal to Florida to me in Colorado in a few days and loved it - equipped with FIA-legal racing seats and harnesses.
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
I've done now 9300 km in the 3.8RS which +90% on normal swiss roads and the car works perfectly as any 911 with 19 inch rims and PASM/off on normal roads. Of course the feeling is go-kart like and more harsh than a any 997 on 18' etc - due to less sound-damping , higher roll-noises with the 325 in the back - but that is exactly the point of this car. If you want luxury get something else - this car is about being "one" with it - which starts with the hugging of bucket seats when you enter it and ends with "man-handling the manual-shifting" and puts me a grin in the face until I get out of it again - and if you're aiming for that - I've personally not driven a more intense/fascinating car. (not the 458 nor the SLS) Maybe a caterham 500 or a Ariel Atom 300 could top it - but then they are not safe enough for my taste)
I have had the chance to drive my RS 4.0 a few times and here are a few comments:
- I have the impression that the gear box and the clutch is siginificantly lighter than on my previous GT3 RS mk 1. This makes it much easier to live with in daily traffic
- You can alter the the height of the car with the suspension settings. I have the lift system, but so far I have had no problems with the car as is - perhaps it come quite high from the factory
- The std sound system is good for listening to music on low volume, but on higher volume it is really crappy. This would speak for chosing a car with Sat Nav/ Sound System (they come together) if using it on regular basis
- The suspension is absolutely OK to live with in daily traffic
- The road noise from the wheels is quite intense, but of course nothing like a 993 RS Clubsport, oder 964 RS N/GT.
- The car has a lot of presence and is not for the shy - but I think you guessed that one yourself...
All in all I would have no problems living with the car on a daily basis - you should just be aware that it is no Golf...
Mar 22, 2012 4:01:01 PM
I think it would be great to enjoy a car like this every day ... I see various GT3s being driven to work in London ... we Brits are a bit crazy in that sense ...
997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red
Thanks TurboRalf - this is helpful. It will not be a daily driver, but there will be some cruising around with the wife and want to make sure it is not too stiff that I will only hear complaints. I think you and others have given me enough context to be confident about my decision.
bhnyc:
Thanks TurboRalf - this is helpful. It will not be a daily driver, but there will be some cruising around with the wife and want to make sure it is not too stiff that I will only hear complaints. I think you and others have given me enough context to be confident about my decision.
Based on my GT2/GT2RS experience your wife will have no reason to complain about noise/ride comfort. The seats (not adjustable) might be the only area of concern for your wife. However, the total package is as nice that you should give it a try
nberry:
While attending A Porsche function at the dealership I spoke with an owner of a 3.8RS. When I asked him about the car all he would tell me was he drove from San Diego to LA about 100 miles (highway) each way and said it was very uncomfortable. By the time he got home he had a headache and which lasted for a couple of days. Otherwise, he loves the car.
The GT3 sport shells are actually very comfortable, the seat is actually the only thing my wife loves about these cars. I had a GT3 RS for a weekend twice and while she loved the seats, everything else she didn't. Especially the rear wing kind of annoyed her...she was ashamed what her friends could think about this...."thing".
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Mar 25, 2012 5:56:27 PM