Closereginos:
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On the video he makes a point that the e-steering would have have filtered too much information had the roads been damp.
This last point is an open question. He has not driven the car in damp conditions. He was referring to e-steering in general, not the Boxster's specifically.
The 981 uses the old 6 speed manual gearbox. This means there are no technical reasons necessitating the new PDK-derived 7 speed in the 991. It seems that lowering fuel consumption and emissions were more crucial in the case of the 991.
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"Form follows function"
reginos:
The 981 uses the old 6 speed manual gearbox. This means there are no technical reasons necessitating the new PDK-derived 7 speed in the 991. It seems that lowering fuel consumption and emissions were more crucial in the case of the 991.
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"Form follows function"
You're making an assumption here. Likely true, but not necessarily so.
With the changes in wheelbase and repositioning of the engine in the 991, it may be the case that the old 6 speed would result in undesirable driveshaft angles. Having said that, the opposite could be true. My point is, there are other considerations than simply the size of the transmission.
Mar 16, 2012 1:43:06 PM
Not to be too finicky, but I noticed two key omissions on the 981 compared to the 991/Cayenne/Panamera: Porsche Entry & Drive and the Burmester High-End Surround Sound System.
Why didn't these two options make it? My guess with the Burmester system is that they didn't have the space to squeeze in the system's components, but E&D should be easy, right?
I'd appreciate it if someone could shed some light on these.
rulesdontapply
Mar 16, 2012 1:54:56 PM
I suspect Burmester, entry and drive and the 7speed gearbox have actually all been omitted to ensure that there is still sufficent differentiation between the boxster/caymen and the 911. The new boxster seems to have closed the gap a little so I think its important for Porsche to keep several pieces of technology exclusive to the 911
Mar 16, 2012 3:59:39 PM
7.58 is just amazing. That is 1 sec better than the 997.1 C2S -20mm that I have. How times have moved on since then!
997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red
Mar 16, 2012 4:18:13 PM
easy_rider911:
7.58 is just amazing. That is 1 sec better than the 997.1 C2S -20mm that I have. How times have moved on since then!
Great time!
997.2 Carrera S in Carrara White. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
987.1 Boxster S in Arctic Silver. OZ Racing Ultraleggera Wheels, H&R Monotube Coil-Over Suspension, H&R Anti-Roll Bars, Sachs Racing Clutch, Single-Mass Flywheel, IPD Plenum, GT3 Throttle Body, Recaro Pole Position Seats, PSE, Alpine Head Unit and Amplifier, Focal Speakers
reginos:
Was the 7.58 on sport tyres?
I don't think the Boxster has ever been offered with Cup tires - this would be a big change if so.
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
Grant:
reginos:
Was the 7.58 on sport tyres?
I don't think the Boxster has ever been offered with Cup tires - this would be a big change if so.
Now, with the DFI engines they might.
Also on the Carrera, Cup tyres were only offered by the factory, on the 997.2. Previous engines, other than the Mezger were feared for oil starvation problems at the higher g-forces.
"Form follows function"
Which tires did Porsche use for the 991 time? Pirelli P Zero? If so I guess the same for the 981. Cup tires would be "cheating" if these are not offered as an option from the factory IMHO.
997.2 Carrera S in Carrara White. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
987.1 Boxster S in Arctic Silver. OZ Racing Ultraleggera Wheels, H&R Monotube Coil-Over Suspension, H&R Anti-Roll Bars, Sachs Racing Clutch, Single-Mass Flywheel, IPD Plenum, GT3 Throttle Body, Recaro Pole Position Seats, PSE, Alpine Head Unit and Amplifier, Focal Speakers
Porsche Entry & Drive is very poorly implemented .. you get a nasty stump where the key would normally go, which you still have to turn like a normal key.
In contrast, Mercedes 'keyless go' is a flat button (on older models, the button is on top of automatic gearstick; newer models, where the key normally is) that you press .. so much more elegant
Mar 16, 2012 7:54:14 PM
sfo:
Porsche Entry & Drive is very poorly implemented .. you get a nasty stump where the key would normally go, which you still have to turn like a normal key.
In contrast, Mercedes 'keyless go' is a flat button (on older models, the button is on top of automatic gearstick; newer models, where the key normally is) that you press .. so much more elegant
You bring up a good point.
I noticed something on the 918 Spyder prototype vehicle that was shown in Geneva in 2010; in place of an ignition slot or the Entry & Drive dummy key, there's an actual ignition on/off button, just to the left of the steering wheel in traditional Porsche fashion. It looked great and I thought that was the direction Porsche would go with in their next-generation vehicles, but it looks like we're still stuck with traditional twist ignitions while everyone else turns to buttons...
Oh well, would have been nice to have the feature implemented on the 981 nonetheless.
rulesdontapply
slamdunk:
Has anybody seen a review on the base model 2.7L boxster? All reviews only appears to focus on the "S" model.
Here you go...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Porsche-Boxster-2.7-/261808/
987 Boxster,VW Scirocco, Range Rover Evoque incoming
Mar 17, 2012 12:03:07 AM
First Impressions: The New Boxster S
First Impressions -- The New Boxster S -- Excellence article
...thanks and all due credit to Pete Stout at Excellence!
Mar 17, 2012 2:00:47 PM
bluelines:
reginos:
At least it will still be a boxer/flat engine. But a 4C to be above the 3.4 6C in PS and more expensive
Yes, it would be a Porsche novelty if the turbo model is not the top-of-the-range. Unless it is an environmental lightweight turbo to showcase low emissions, but then the power figures 350-380HP does not fit.
It will be interesting to see what follows in the media about power and performance figures.
I suspect Porsche will push the low emissions part and emphasize the HP output. Expect Porsche Intelligence Performance to come advertise for it making the Turbo the top of the range model, certainly so in price with the justification that it is a green turbo. Certainly a cool idea, i hope it materializes soon! Expect a very hot little package with new bumpers and interiors, perhaps even turbo rims of some kind if not the 991 sets available.
Mar 19, 2012 11:14:36 AM
Changes to spec in US configurator.
I just noticed that the door trim piece that used to be shown in aluminium is not appearing in interior color.
I remember one of the reviewers commenting that it was too much brightwork on the door panel. I wonder if Porsche got a lot of similar feedback, and responded to it.
Same thing on the German configurator...
I think you'll only get this door piece in silver (=plastic), when you order the full leather interior. If you choose alcantara, leather seats or leahter seats with extra leather package, the door trim will be in interior colour (which looks better IMO).
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BjoernB:
love the comments of the gearbox from Chris
+1 
997.2 Carrera S in Carrara White. PASM-Sport Suspension (-20 mm), PSE.
987.1 Boxster S in Arctic Silver. OZ Racing Ultraleggera Wheels, H&R Monotube Coil-Over Suspension, H&R Anti-Roll Bars, Sachs Racing Clutch, Single-Mass Flywheel, IPD Plenum, GT3 Throttle Body, Recaro Pole Position Seats, PSE, Alpine Head Unit and Amplifier, Focal Speakers
Mar 19, 2012 4:12:27 PM
sfo:
you can always order the door trim in leather if you go for the full leather interior ...
Yes, order code CXM - but......according to the salesman in my PZ all Exclusive options for the interior are not available for the time being, may it be leather, parts in exterior colour or carbone 
I asked about some parts painted in exterior colour, answer: we can do it for you in the PZ shop but it won't be available from the factory (plastic bodyparts painted is no problem though). Same goes for the 991 - looks as if they have some capacity problems in the factory right now where any additional work from Exclusive is only "disturbing" the normal production process. They just increased daily production for the Carrera from 140 to 160 cars. When I visited the factory six years ago it was only 100 per day 
public roads: Porsche 987 S Seal/Cocoa, toll road 
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Mar 19, 2012 4:18:16 PM
Mar 19, 2012 5:00:13 PM
Futch is right ... this has a mini Carrera GT look to it ...
It's so beautiful ... it is a very desirable car ... I can see a lot of people (not just female) wanting one of these ...
997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red
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