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Aug 10, 2011 12:07:29 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: BlackSparrow

Re: 991 spy shots

BlackSparrow:
RC- it takes balls to order an older model so close to the launch of the new one :) why would you want to own 2 997s? They are great cars, don't get me wrong. Probably the best sports/commute to work cars ever created... But why own 2 of them? :)

Smiley i think he told that he switch the 997 turbo for the 997 GTS Cab....

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Aug 10, 2011 12:10:59 PM

Lethalsleeper: Newbie; Loc: Socal , United States; Posts: 3, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 24, 2011; Reply to: Lethalsleeper

Re: 991 spy shots

Lethalsleeper:

Some quick photoshopping, while sitting through the stock market crash....

RC, did u mean these are real close to the real thing?

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Aug 10, 2011 12:34:07 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

RC:

Say hello to my ride...

Awesome, congratulations! Considering the specs you either ordered it that way or found a car very close to your liking. Very curious whether you can settle with such a modest amount of horsepower...

Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 12:42:01 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Ferdie

Re: 991 spy shots

Ferdie:

RC:

Say hello to my ride...

Awesome, congratulations! Considering the specs you either ordered it that way or found a car very close to your liking. Very curious whether you can settle with such a modest amount of horsepower...

It must be a stop-gap car until the 991 Turbo (S) in 2013.

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Aug 10, 2011 12:45:24 PM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

RC:

the GTS is not my wife's car but she had a lot to do with the decision,

Obviously your wife has a very positive influence on your decisions Smiley Many congrats, RC Smiley GTS cab is a great car, which has it all: beautiful design, good performance, cab fun, if you like you can make the rear "dance" due to the short wheel base and rear engine position (not sure with the 991 in this regard....) and probably also a financially smart move Smiley Have fun and many happy miles Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 1:07:34 PM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: 991 spy shots

Many congrats RC - great choice ! as posted before I very much believe the 991 is going to be "cool" from a interior point of view but externally a 997.2 ticks so many boxes - Glad you went for one !

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Aug 10, 2011 1:12:08 PM

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , United States; Posts: 945, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

RC. Very nice. Look forward to more pictures and your write up...Enjoy Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 1:32:01 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

RC:

WAY:
Hey look, Christian is alive! Tell us more about 991 please! Lol

Well, I was on a family vacation to Spain...sorry.

The yellow 991 on the upper image is still photoshopped (somebody removed the camouflage) but it is very close to the real thing. Job nicely done.

The front camouflage is actually not as good as Porsche thinks but the front lights aren't exactly round, just look closely and you'll see "through".

I know that many people expected a spectacular new 991 but as I told you many many months ago: Not going to happen.

This is why I went for a 997 GTS Cab instead, especially since performance should be similar to the 997 Carrera S Cab, considering the engine hp figures I have.

Say hello to my ride...

More to come on Monday, when I have more time for this.

Christian, looks like our cars have a few things in common - The seats, PCCB and yellow seat belt. But have you got yellow dials like me too? Smiley Congrats btw, looks stunning!

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Aug 10, 2011 1:46:53 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: WAY

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Awesome stuff Christian, congratulations!
Black with pccbs and yellow seatbelts... exactly how I would spec it I think (in the looks department). Feel a bit sad though that you let the turbo go, so looking forward to your reasoning and driving reports.

Also, I hope you had a good holiday! Good to have you back mate!
Cheers Joost.

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Aug 10, 2011 2:03:52 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Lethalsleeper

Re: 991 spy shots

Lethalsleeper:

Some quick photoshopping, while sitting through the stock market crash....

There has been a stock market crash ? Where ? Smiley

Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 2:09:22 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: WAY

Re: 991 spy shots

WAY:

Christian, looks like our cars have a few things in common - The seats, PCCB and yellow seat belt. But have you got yellow dials like me too? Congrats btw, looks stunning!

Thank you, your car doesn't look bad either. Smiley Smiley

This is an interior shot but no, I don't have yellow dials.

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Aug 10, 2011 2:14:36 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

Fantastic car Smiley , enjoy it.

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Aug 10, 2011 2:24:38 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8845, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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Very sleek RC !! The car looks amazing in black with black wheels, and the yellow details really give it an aggressive touch.

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Aug 10, 2011 3:46:37 PM

Budster: Veteran; Loc: Cape Town , South Africa; Posts: 1029, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 9, 2011; Reply to: Enmanuel

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Not round, RC..? Told you guys: they're gonna be 918-square!!!
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Aug 10, 2011 3:55:51 PM

DaveC: Veteran; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 1068, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2005; Reply to: Budster

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Congratulation RC, I think the GTS is one of the best all around 911s Porsche has offered, style, performance, and value in one package.

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Aug 10, 2011 3:58:56 PM

pride355: Rennteam Pro; Loc: iSTANBUL , Turkey; Posts: 2475, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 28, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

RC:

WAY:

Christian, looks like our cars have a few things in common - The seats, PCCB and yellow seat belt. But have you got yellow dials like me too? Congrats btw, looks stunning!

Thank you, your car doesn't look bad either.

This is an interior shot but no, I don't have yellow dials.

Congrats Christian Smiley Very wise desicion Smiley

Black GTS with gorgeous bucket seats (my favorite ones), PDK, black spyder rims and PCCB's. Yellow seat belts look awesome with black leather/alcantara interior. Only question is that if it is not for your wife why is it open top?? Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 4:07:40 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: pride355

Re: 991 spy shots

Good buy my friend. I doubt many people will be able to tell the difference between a 997 and 991.

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Aug 10, 2011 4:19:46 PM

Italo: Veteran; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 1055, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 29, 2007; Reply to: nberry

Re: 991 spy shots

Congrats RC Smiley very beautiful car !

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Aug 10, 2011 4:21:25 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: nberry

Re: 991 spy shots

nberry:

Good buy my friend. I doubt many people will be able to tell the difference between a 997 and 991.

I will explain my reasons on Monday, including some personal thoughts and a very rough analysis of my choice. A very interesting discussion could follow, I'm looking forward to it. Smiley

Thanks again. Smiley

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Aug 10, 2011 4:26:53 PM

mateoche: Co-Pilot; Loc: Santa Monica, CA; Posts: 243, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

Congrats RC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just saw a GTS (coupe) here in Los Angeles and it was beautiful!!!

In fact, guy in a new Turbo S at the same interesection was staring at it admiringly!

here's an article for all about the GTS cab for all--

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/11q1/2011_porsche_911_carrera_gts_cabriolet-short_take_road_test

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Aug 10, 2011 4:27:47 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 spy shots

Absolutely gorgeous car RC! I love how unique the car is, yet how simple the spec is! Awesome colour as well it looks fantastic.

BTW, what happened to the posts where you said its very close, they are missing?

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Aug 10, 2011 4:31:22 PM

mateoche: Co-Pilot; Loc: Santa Monica, CA; Posts: 243, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Carrara

Re: 991 spy shots

Again, Congrats!

Also, i can't wait to hear your driver's report, etc.

And! your decision of why not to wait?!

i'm tempted to get a GTS myself and then wait to see what happens with the 991.2 in three or so years time.

(i like many more people wish that Porsche had taken a bit more risks (any risk) in the design or not made it look so 996-like. Wished that it was like some of the illustrations that we saw.)

It just looks a bit boring to me based on the latest pics -- and i so desperately wanted to have an emotional reaction to its design. I wanted to fall in love with the 991 so, so badly!!!!!!!

Again, Congrats on your GTS Cab!!!

And please tell us why you didn't feel the 991 was worth waiting for or what turned you off from waiting a few months. Thank you.

Again, congrats!!

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Aug 10, 2011 4:58:12 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: mateoche

Re: 991 spy shots

Right now i`m a bit worried about your comments, RC...

I "recorded" on my mind your post a few time ago, here you said that the 991 "it would be a beautifull car" and you have the intention to buy one...

Maybe my expectation on the 991 is to high... i hope not...

Assuming that you not drive yeat a 991 (?), cannot see a plausible reason for going right into a 997 instead waiting for the 991... are any "downgrade" that you already know?

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Aug 10, 2011 5:06:28 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: pjd

Re: 991 spy shots

pjd: I assume it has to do with things such as how good a car the 997 already is, and because the first MY usually has some minor issues; chassis, suspension, and engine wise.

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Aug 10, 2011 5:22:42 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Carrara

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Yes, probably... let`s wait for what RC has to say on Monday...

I remember in 2004 for this time we already knew offcial details and real pics...

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Aug 10, 2011 5:23:14 PM

mateoche: Co-Pilot; Loc: Santa Monica, CA; Posts: 243, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Carrara

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i really think i might do the same thing, RC -- the GTS is a beautiful car, the shapes are incredible and the performance seems phenomenal...

And it looks a lot better to me than the 996-ish 991 and then maybe i'll get a 991.2 in 3-4 years.

with only minor tweaks, i think the 997.2 is such a huge aesthetic leap from the 997.1 (not to mention all that they did underneath the skin) and it somehow looks so much more contemporary with the LED's, etc.

i'm sure the 991 will be a great, great car too. that i have no doubt about. (though i'm curious about the new electric power steering)

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Aug 10, 2011 5:27:45 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: mateoche

Re: 991 spy shots

BTW, grey 991 is not Meteor Grey. Color is probably Achatgraumetallic(new color for Pana Turbo S that will be available for 991 range). Gold 991 Carrera S shown in video is in color called Limegoldmetallic. You can(unfortunately) expect some new Brown shades as well...

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Aug 10, 2011 5:31:22 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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Thank`s for the info Kreso

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Aug 10, 2011 5:39:03 PM

beltar: Veteran; Loc: belgium , Belgium; Posts: 1232, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: pjd

Re: 991 spy shots

Congrats RC!

From what i see on the yellow car (i don't like the enormous back) and the comment i expect to hear from you about your choice, i'm even more convinced that my cjhoice not to spend my money on a brand new 991 and to buy my 2008 R8 as intermediate car was a good choice.

Now i can test the 991 and wait for a 2nd handone in a year or two.

Since the gain in power (991) is not a big one , your choice for the really great looking GTS is a brilliant step.

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Aug 10, 2011 6:39:34 PM

mateoche: Co-Pilot; Loc: Santa Monica, CA; Posts: 243, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: beltar

Re: 991 spy shots

beltar:

Congrats RC!

From what i see on the yellow car (i don't like the enormous back) and the comment i expect to hear from you about your choice, i'm even more convinced that my cjhoice not to spend my money on a brand new 991 and to buy my 2008 R8 as intermediate car was a good choice.

Now i can test the 991 and wait for a 2nd handone in a year or two.

Since the gain in power (991) is not a big one , your choice for the really great looking GTS is a brilliant step.

I agree with your description of the "enormous back" beltar.

the porsche nameplate will be there to break-up the huge-ness of it, but still.

the great Larson illustrations that i saw in Autocar really seemed to have visual details (and aerodynamic qualities i assume) that made the proportions beautiful IMvHO. of course, we'll all need to see the car in person.

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curious, how you like your R8 and how it compares to a 997.2 S -- i see the R8's all over LA, many times a day so they're very popular here.

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