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    Jul 21, 2011 2:29:00 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    JimFlat6:

    Notice that the 2.8  has taller stacks for more torque and the Singer has shorter stacks for more revs....

     

    Jim, the Singer's stacks are about as long (or even longer) - it's a bit deceiving, since the throttle butterfly is placed about half way up (in the square shaped coupler) and extends further down to the heads.  That 2.8 has the slide-valve injection placed at the very bottom, so it looks like the stack is longer.


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    Jul 21, 2011 4:53:51 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    i noticed the rear bomber is all one piece  it looks nice

    untitled1.PNG

    Jul 21, 2011 4:59:15 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Grant:
    JimFlat6:

    Notice that the 2.8  has taller stacks for more torque and the Singer has shorter stacks for more revs....

     

    Jim, the Singer's stacks are about as long (or even longer) - it's a bit deceiving, since the throttle butterfly is placed about half way up (in the square shaped coupler) and extends further down to the heads.  That 2.8 has the slide-valve injection placed at the very bottom, so it looks like the stack is longer.


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    Thanks Grant!
     

     

    Jul 21, 2011 6:54:26 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    996AD:

    i noticed the rear bomber is all one piece  it looks nice

    untitled1.PNG


    It looks like a huge piece of plastic cover. I never been a fan of to much plastic. Even though it is painted, you still see that there is a soft material underneath! Anyway - for small bumps it might reduce spare-costs. Oh - wait a moment, its a Porsche, so I correct - it will increase margin span Smiley

    Jul 21, 2011 7:24:37 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Had a call from my OPC last night, first UK cars are scheduled for delivery in Jan 2012 and would I be interested in one, though would mean speccing in September, so would need to attend Frankfurt to see the car.

    Am tempted, but the dilemma I have is that the Spyder is turning out to be so good that I'm having second thoughts on 'upgrading'

    That said, would I really want one of the first cars and the potential niggles - I like my OPC but don't want to spent to much time with them

    Jul 21, 2011 2:51:29 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Grant:
    reginos:
    Grant:
    reginos:

    Looking at the engine is part of car ownership but 911s were never good at that, anyway. 

     


     

    Excuse me?Smiley

     

    1311091462298rsrmotor2.jpg

    Is that a standard car from the factory?
     

     


    Yes, 1973 Carrera RSR 2.8 (there were racing and road versions that looked like this under the rear decklid from the factory).  Around 900kg, 308hp at 8,000rpm, huge 4-Piston brakes, incredible throttle response and manual steering rack (light but fantastic feel). Built about 40 years ago, but no street-legal Porsche has been as fun since and few can keep up on a track.

     

     

     The specs on the '73 RSR are amazing! 

    Jul 21, 2011 8:29:55 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     Hi,

    One more video, not so interesting but in Vienna downtown.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZEFV5iv68I

     

    Cheers,

     

    Stefaren

    Jul 22, 2011 5:12:04 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     One of Rennteam's very own members confirms this rendering is a close as it gets, with just a few minor differences in the license plate area.

    Jul 22, 2011 8:04:59 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Well, let's hope not - this is sooo non-911..

     


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    Jul 22, 2011 8:28:52 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    John H:

    Well, let's hope not - this is sooo non-911..

     

     +1


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    Jul 22, 2011 8:45:17 PM

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    +1
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    Jul 22, 2011 9:06:01 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Carrara:

     One of Rennteam's very own members confirms this rendering is a close as it gets, with just a few minor differences in the license plate area.

    Porsche-991-spy-video-pic-comparison.jpg

     Smiley SmileySmiley

    Jul 22, 2011 9:50:10 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    ...more spy pics...

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    Jul 22, 2011 10:18:26 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    Carrara:

     One of Rennteam's very own members confirms this rendering is a close as it gets, with just a few minor differences in the license plate area.

    Porsche-991-spy-video-pic-comparison.jpg

     Smiley SmileySmiley

    It looks like a sad face of an old man.  I prefer the bigger light of the spy car; look more alert and ready. 
     


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    Jul 22, 2011 10:33:40 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    It´s in the details... there are a few differences between the rendering and the spyshot. Especially the curvature on the lower end of the taillights and on the rear wiing´s lip is different and contributing signfificantly to the overall impression.

    Jul 23, 2011 12:01:34 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     Looking good!

    Jul 23, 2011 1:10:18 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed


    Carrara:

     One of Rennteam's very own members confirms this rendering is a close as it gets, with just a few minor differences in the license plate area.

     

    No, it isn't close.

    This is close, very close.

    image-34.png.jpeg


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    Jul 23, 2011 1:11:18 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Oh, forgot...front lights will bear a slight surprise too.


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    Jul 23, 2011 1:14:43 AM

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     Interesting RC. I admit, I like the lights better on the one you posted. Will there really be that fourth air slat just below the mini ducktail between the two tail lights?

    Also, are we talking a "996 style" surprise with the headlights?

    Jul 23, 2011 1:41:33 AM

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    Thanks for the clarification RC!! love the auto bild rendering. Surprise in the front? I hope it's LEDs and a more elongular and less oval design like 918.

    Jul 23, 2011 7:35:10 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    I have had a convertible with minor camo (rear exactly like the one out of the video) ahead of me in Stuttgart traffic. First of all - it took me a while to recognize that this is a 991 and not a 997 - the basic shape and look on the road is to similar. Second - I wasn't convinced with the rear - it looks very high and clumsy. I hope that it looks much better after the camo is gone.

    Anyway - the car is look wise a minor evolution of the 997, wished to see a jump as from the 993 to 996, especially as they claim to made a 100% new development.

     

    Jul 23, 2011 7:43:05 AM

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    Lars997:

     it looks very high and clumsy. I hope that it looks much better after the camo is gone.

     

     At the moment I am a bit worried about that...... but still believe Porsche would not make such a mistake.

    If there is a curved shape under the new wing/line then it will not look high. And as to now this part is till hidden ( or was it not ?  ) 


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    Jul 23, 2011 8:15:25 AM

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    In this month's copy of Car magazine Georg Kacher says the detailing in the headlights on each model will be slightly different so that the S, turbo etc are more readily distinguishable from the Carrera. I take that to mean layout of the reflectors etc inside the same basic headlight shape so I'm guessing some models such as the turbo will get full LED lights whilst  the Carrera will have regular xenons.

    Jul 23, 2011 7:04:27 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Gnil:
    Lars997:

     it looks very high and clumsy. I hope that it looks much better after the camo is gone.

     

     At the moment I am a bit worried about that...... but still believe Porsche would not make such a mistake.

    If there is a curved shape under the new wing/line then it will not look high. And as to now this part is till hidden ( or was it not ?  ) 

     

    The car I've seen was almost not camouflaged anymore. It was exactly like the one we have seen in the video. It might be that we have to get used to it - sure it will look good, but as I said - not evolutionary enough!

    Jul 23, 2011 7:13:50 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:

    This is close, very close.

    image-34.png.jpeg

    If it is like the above then I am very happy Smiley
     


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    Jul 23, 2011 7:14:18 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Lars997:
    Gnil:
    Lars997:

     it looks very high and clumsy. I hope that it looks much better after the camo is gone.

     

     At the moment I am a bit worried about that...... but still believe Porsche would not make such a mistake.

    If there is a curved shape under the new wing/line then it will not look high. And as to now this part is till hidden ( or was it not ?  ) 

     

    The car I've seen was almost not camouflaged anymore. It was exactly like the one we have seen in the video. It might be that we have to get used to it - sure it will look good, but as I said - not evolutionary enough!

    great news to me, i hope it looks like 997.1
     

    Jul 23, 2011 7:16:02 PM

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    reginos:
    RC:

    This is close, very close.

    image-34.png.jpeg

    If it is like the above then I am very happy Smiley
     


    not bad... my 458 is great but still want the 991 GT3 in CW

    Jul 23, 2011 7:58:31 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:

    Oh, forgot...front lights will bear a slight surprise too.

    RC -- let's hope that the front lights don't look anything like this horrific Smiley photoshop from the August 2011 issue of Top Gear magazine...

    2012-Porsche-991-GT3_Top-Gear.jpg

    ...surely there's no way Porsche would ever design such a cross-eyed grotesque mutation! Smiley

    Smiley Smiley Smiley

    Jul 23, 2011 8:31:13 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    What do you think about the shot?  

     

    _DSC004.JPG 

     

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/151092/

    Jul 23, 2011 8:53:03 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    RC:

    Oh, forgot...front lights will bear a slight surprise too.

    RC -- let's hope that the front lights don't look anything like this horrific Smiley photoshop from the August 2011 issue of Top Gear magazine...

     

    ...surely there's no way Porsche would ever design such a cross-eyed grotesque mutation! Smiley

    Smiley Smiley Smiley

     

    Smiley I hope they released pics soon... we are in "speculation" since 2008......... Smiley

    And i hope those headlights on the Top Gear issue, it`s just a funny joke from they... 

    RC, PLEASE, just tell us if those headlights aren`t the real thing........ are they? Smiley

     
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