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    2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    After today's thrilling race in Barcelona, next up is the race around the streets of the Principality of Monaco Smiley

    This season is shaping up to be an almighty battle between Vettel and Hamilton. It was close today - I expect the Red Bulls to enjoy a significant advantage in Monaco - plenty of low speed corners requiring sharp turn in ability. Front downforce will be key.

    Can't wait Smiley 


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Hi Easy, always enjoy your F1 threads, off to Monaco on Thursday to watch this and can not wait!  I'm hoping it will be close between the Mclarens and Bulls as in Barca Lewis seemed to have the edge over Seb in the slower speed corners and it was only in the high speed turns 3 and 9 i think that the Bulls had a significant advantage.

     

    What are your thoughts on overtaking in the principality, possible or do you think qualifying will still be key?


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    That's great to hear - thanks

    I expect it to be really close again between RBR, McLaren & Ferrari. I think the Ferrari package will be less disadvantaged at Monaco and Alonso is superb at that circuit so he will be right up there.

    Both Button and Hamilton are strong there - I am not convinced about McLaren's traction out of slow corners - which is key at Monaco - I expect this is one area that RBR and Ferrari are stronger.

    Overtaking will still be very difficult at Monaco - those physical limitations will always be there - but I think KERS will help a little. I'm not sure DRS will help that much - the start/finish straight isn't long enough to be able to make it count. It also depends on where the DRS activation zone will be - in Barcelona, IMvHO Charlie Whiting got it badly wrong - the late position of the DRS activation zone rendered DRS almost useless.

    Qualification will be absolutely key to track position BUT IMHO, the biggest single factor will be tyre degradation. Pirelli is bringing soft and super soft compounds. I don't know how long the super soft tyres will last. I suspect we will see 4 stops as the norm: 4 stints on soft with 1 stint on super soft. Those teams that use an extra set of soft in qualification will pay dearly in the race: 3 stints on soft with 2 stints on super soft.

    Still, this is just speculation on my part ;)

    Hope you have a great weekend in Monaco and the Cote d'Azur :)


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    Forgot to mention - Mark Webber must be really hurting ... he was on pole in Barcelona but finished the race about 30 seconds back in 4th place. He was really mediocre - especially on his out laps after pit stops - his race was compromised by not getting past traffic when Vettel was rampant at doing that on his own out laps.

    He must be psychologically wounded ... he is on a slow, downward spiral in my view ... the only thing keeping him going is his Aussie grit and stubborn sense of self-denial ... but eventually he will need to face reality - the points table doesn't lie ...

    He is being beaten hands down by his team mate this year.

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    Wow, guys . I cant wait for Monaco, this is going to be an absolute belter. This is the one they love to win. I think LH will have his big boy pants on for this one..

    Too early, easy, to write off Webber, imo..


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Qualifying is the key, and that's right up Red Bulls' alley.

     


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    I will definitely watch the entire quali this time yeah.


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    Fascinating article from the BBC's Mark Hughes on why RBR is so much faster in qualification than in the the race itself ... finally some possible explanations ...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13514134.stm


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Excellent article. Thanks!


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    Great read... to sum the last bit up here,

     

    So take your pick: the Red Bull has too much downforce for the Pirellis to be able to use; it derives more drag reduction from its DRS; it has better hot-blown diffuser mapping and loses Kers performance. Or some sort of combination therein.


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Despite Alonso's brave words, Domenicali is being more realistic about Ferrari's hopes this season. The next few races are crucial to decide if they can still mount a challenge or whether this season should be a write off.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13523884.stm


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    Aldo Costa pays the price - resigns as Technical Director at Scuderia Ferrari

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13524957.stm

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/05/ferrari-put-confidence-in-pat-fry-as-costa-falls-on-his-sword/


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    More info from Pirelli on the super soft compound to be used at Monaco

    http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6951102/Ten-laps-the-maximum-on-supersofts

    These tyres will hardly last at all - max 10 laps only ....


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    Paul Di Resta on life in Monaco

    http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6950201/Di-Resta-loving-life-in-Monaco


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    DRS banned in Monaco Tunnel (i.e. during practice and qualification when DRS can normally be used multiple times)

    http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6949539/DRS-banned-in-Monaco-tunnel


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Should Barrichello quit?

    http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6947165/Barrichello-insists-I-m-not-ready-to-quit


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    easy_rider911:

    Aldo Costa pays the price - resigns as Technical Director at Scuderia Ferrari


    Ferrari is obviously serious about changing the current attitude inside the Scuderia. Very curious how much of a difference it can make. I would be seriously astonished if Ferrari will still be able to turn around and become a serious contender for the drivers championship.
     


    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    easy_rider911:

     The next few races are crucial to decide if they can still mount a challenge or whether this season should be a write off.

    I wouldn't quite paint the picture this extreme. The season is not a write off for all the teams not in first place.. Ferrari will have to work really hard to evolve their current chassis and extract more speed from it. I am sure they will work very very hard between each race this season.


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Well, Stefano Domenicali has already said the same thing about the impotence of the next few races ... !
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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Ha! Freudian slip perhaps ... I meant to write 'importance' but the iPhone auto-correct replaced it with 'impotence' ... Even more accurate :)
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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    easy_rider911:

    Forgot to mention - Mark Webber must be really hurting ... he was on pole in Barcelona but finished the race about 30 seconds back in 4th place. He was really mediocre - especially on his out laps after pit stops - his race was compromised by not getting past traffic when Vettel was rampant at doing that on his own out laps.

    He must be psychologically wounded ... he is on a slow, downward spiral in my view ... the only thing keeping him going is his Aussie grit and stubborn sense of self-denial ... but eventually he will need to face reality - the points table doesn't lie ...

    He is being beaten hands down by his team mate this year.

    Hi Easy

    Great thread. I could not agree with you more about MW. As a countryman I really want him to succeed but he has become a bit like Greg Norman was in his heyday. All that ability but not quite the edge required to dominate. Both are really nice guys, both perpetual bridesmaids.

    After such a great drive for pole last week, I could not believe his pathetic start. After that, he seemed to just fade. 

    Smiley 5Smiley

     

     


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    Interesting blog from James Allen on Monaco strategy - he thinks there will be 2 or 3 pit stops - huh? The race is 78 laps long with the top 10 cars starting the race on the tyres that they set their fastest lap in Q3.

    3 sets of soft tyres usually last a max of 15 laps each making a total of 45 laps. The super soft tyres will last a max of 10 laps according to Pirelli. So far, that's 55 laps. How are they proposing to do the remaining 23 laps?

    I expect at least 4 pit stops (and the teams that sacrifice an extra set of soft tyres will need to use more super softs, so they could even need to make 5 stops). But I expect 4 stops to be the norm.


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Here's the link

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/05/tight-monaco-grand-prix-in-prospect-strategists-say/


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    RBR has changed its pit stop procedures from Monaco onwards to make it less obvious to other teams (namely Ferrari) when they plan to box one of their cars.

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6952731/-New-Pit-Stop-Method-For-Bulls-


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Vettel quickest in Thursday Practice

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6952923/Vettel-Edges-Alonso-In-Monaco-Practice


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Alan McNish to be guest steward at Monaco

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91704


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    BBC F1 text commentary on Thursday Practice

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9497040.stm


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Thursday Practice lap times

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/results/9418469.stm


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Poor Webber, that must rattle you right in the first practice..


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    Re: 2011 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Wow, Alonso kicks butt in practice 2..Qualification will prove hard to predict.

    http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2011/855/6852/


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