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Jan 26, 2011 12:06:33 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Collected my GTS today

@John H: Shell V-Power is 98 RON in France and Belgium, 99 RON in the UK, 100 RON in Germany and Italy. This is what I have seen when I've driven through those countries

In Germany, you can buy Aral Ultimate which I understand is 102 RON.

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Jan 27, 2011 12:25:58 AM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: easy_rider911

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If Shell V-Power is 99 RON in the UK...so be it! The quicker then I'll get back to an average of 98 RON!

1 RON above 98 RON should make no difference, so neither here nor there then!

Can't see why this fuel differs in various European countries?

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Jan 27, 2011 5:54:20 AM

HeavyMetalThunder: Co-Pilot; Loc: CH , Switzerland; Posts: 164, Gallery; Registered on: May 24, 2009; Reply to: John H

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Hahaha Cheers John!

Nothing quite like the sound of screaming guitars ;-)

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Jan 27, 2011 12:26:36 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: John H

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John H:
Can't see why this fuel differs in various European countries?

Probably influenced by the capabilities and capacities of the refineries in the various countries.

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Jan 27, 2011 7:58:54 PM

DaveGordon: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Zürich , Switzerland; Posts: 2774, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 20, 2007; Reply to: fritz

Re: Collected my GTS today

Got some good, honest 98 in it yet, John? Can't believe the dealer put 95 in - the only time I do that is if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere and really can't get 98. Then buy a small amount and top up with 98 asap.

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Jan 27, 2011 8:44:10 PM

GR: Senior; Loc: S Bucks, England , United Kingdom; Posts: 779, Gallery; Registered on: May 17, 2005; Reply to: DaveGordon

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DaveGordon:

Can't believe the dealer put 95 in - the only time I do that is if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere and really can't get 98. Then buy a small amount and top up with 98 asap.

Me too.

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Jan 27, 2011 10:02:45 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: DaveGordon

Re: Collected my GTS today

DaveGordon:

Got some good, honest 98 in it yet, John? Can't believe the dealer put 95 in - the only time I do that is if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere and really can't get 98. Then buy a small amount and top up with 98 asap.

That's exactly what I did with my previous car Dave... and will do with the GTS.. Smiley

Topped up twice now with 98, so I guess I'm running at around 97 currently.. Smiley

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Jan 27, 2011 10:04:39 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: John H

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Thanks GR...

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Jan 27, 2011 10:11:13 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: John H

Re: Collected my GTS today

Got accused yesterday, at a filling station by a Cayenne driver, of putting false stickers on my car...

Said he'd never heard of a Carrera GTS - I told him to go google it...or words to that effect!

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Jan 27, 2011 10:20:20 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: John H

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You could have pulled his leg back by saying his Cayenne isn't a real Porsche (I know it is but he was out of line so he deserved a tongue lashing )

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Jan 27, 2011 11:07:41 PM

ResB: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Yorkshire, where roads are twisty... , United Kingdom; Posts: 2858, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 19, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Collected my GTS today

When it was Shell Optimax it was 98 RON. Now that it is V-Power it is indeed 99 RON in the UK.

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Jan 28, 2011 7:03:44 AM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: John H

Re: Collected my GTS today

John H:

Got accused yesterday, at a filling station by a Cayenne driver, of putting false stickers on my car...

Said he'd never heard of a Carrera GTS - I told him to go google it...or words to that effect!

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity! Smiley
There is so much wrong with this Cayenne driver's behavior, it's hard to describe.

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Jan 28, 2011 3:16:19 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8842, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: Joost

Re: Collected my GTS today

Joost:

John H:

Got accused yesterday, at a filling station by a Cayenne driver, of putting false stickers on my car...

Said he'd never heard of a Carrera GTS - I told him to go google it...or words to that effect!

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity!
There is so much wrong with this Cayenne driver's behavior, it's hard to describe.

I know a word that covers it, asshole.

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Jan 28, 2011 9:16:07 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: Enmanuel

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That's pretty much what I called him, but not to his face! I almost mentioned Rennteam to him but, on reflection, didn't think he was the sort of guy we need here..

BTW - following advice from Lukas, I'm now using Sport Plus for open road driving during break-in. It's not easy keeping to 4000 revs, but boy is it rewarding.

This car gets better and better..

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Jan 28, 2011 9:23:15 PM

Northshore04: Newbie; Loc: ca , United States; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 5, 2008; Reply to: John H

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I bet. And just wait until you can really open it up.

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Jan 29, 2011 10:00:05 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: John H

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John H:

BTW - following advice from Lukas, I'm now using Sport Plus for open road driving during break-in. It's not easy keeping to 4000 revs, but boy is it rewarding.

This car gets better and better..

We do the same with the Cayman - PDK is a simply amazing piece of kit, we'd never go back to manual now.

If our car is anything to go by your GTS must be really something quite special. Smiley

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Jan 29, 2011 10:37:57 AM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: dreamcar

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DC - How many miles do you have on the Cayman...have you completed break-in yet?

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Jan 29, 2011 10:50:01 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: John H

Re: Collected my GTS today

John H:

DC - How many miles do you have on the Cayman...have you completed break-in yet?

Hi John Smiley

Not yet mileage is 1,300 inadvertently exceeded 5,500 rpm a couple of times, albeit on light throttle. Can't wait to unleash it! We use PDK sport in auto or sport plus in manual all the time.

We'll start venturing further when my ship refit season ends in mid March. Until then, long hours and long daily commute leaves me pretty whacked. Smiley

Like yours the car keeps getting better..... Smiley

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Jan 29, 2011 11:13:00 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Collected my GTS today

Hi John,

sorry, I missed your post earlier.

CONGRATULATIONS Great looking car, fascinating! Enjoy it a lot!

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Jan 29, 2011 4:41:23 PM

doug1950: Junior; Loc: CA , United States; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2008; Reply to: Lars997

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Hey John,

...forgot to mention that my GTS came with the Michelin Pilot Sports...so there must have been a few sets of them still laying around...before Michelin introduces their new "Sport" line of tires...later this spring I guess?? I like the Pilot Sports...had them on my 986S before I swicthed to the Sport "Cup" tires. I will enjoy these standard PS tires for their "all weather" advantages at this time of year...and for general all around use during my "break-in" period.

How's your coupe doing? How many miles do you have on her now??

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Jan 29, 2011 9:10:39 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: Collected my GTS today

Lars997:

Hi John,

sorry, I missed your post earlier.

CONGRATULATIONS Great looking car, fascinating! Enjoy it a lot!

Many thanks Lars, I'm enjoying it immensely..

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Jan 29, 2011 9:20:34 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: doug1950

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doug1950:

Hey John,

...forgot to mention that my GTS came with the Michelin Pilot Sports...so there must have been a few sets of them still laying around...before Michelin introduces their new "Sport" line of tires...later this spring I guess?? I like the Pilot Sports...had them on my 986S before I swicthed to the Sport "Cup" tires. I will enjoy these standard PS tires for their "all weather" advantages at this time of year...and for general all around use during my "break-in" period.

How's your coupe doing? How many miles do you have on her now??

Hi Doug,

You were lucky to get PS2's...I was told there was no chance!! Having said that, I'm still happy with the Bridgestones so far... but won't know for sure until I can open her up for real!

Have only managed 350 miles in 10 days of ownership so still very much breaking-in. Haven't been able to take a drive every day, but have a decent trip coming up next week so will be able to report more fully following that... Smiley

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Jan 29, 2011 11:02:10 PM

doug1950: Junior; Loc: CA , United States; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2008; Reply to: John H

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John,

I just got up to 180 miles today (I'm trying to catch up to you!) ...but since I got the car on Thursday (today is Saturday) I have been able to take a couple of nice drives, along with the 60 miles home from the dealer on Thursday.

You are absolutely right when you said "she gets better with every drive"! ...but the suspense of not being able to "let' her rip" is killing me!!

I have only sneaked past 5,000 RPM a few times...dontcha love that exhaust note??

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Jan 30, 2011 2:35:40 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: doug1950

Re: Collected my GTS today

To be honest, although it's too early to gauge at high revs, the exhaust note is the one area where the GTS falls down compared to my previous C2S with PSE and the 'always-on' mod. I miss the gurgling and bubbling on the over-run as well as the sheer high decibels..

I also miss the full-on involvement of a manual shift but, as I say, it's early days and the overall GTS experience is intoxicating!

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Jan 30, 2011 6:30:12 PM

doug1950: Junior; Loc: CA , United States; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2008; Reply to: John H

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John H:

To be honest, although it's too early to gauge at high revs, the exhaust note is the one area where the GTS falls down compared to my previous C2S with PSE and the 'always-on' mod. I miss the gurgling and bubbling on the over-run as well as the sheer high decibels..

I also miss the full-on involvement of a manual shift but, as I say, it's early days and the overall GTS experience is intoxicating!

Funny, I DEFINITELY get the gurgling and bubbling you mention with the high performance exhaust manifolds in sport mode!

...and i do love this sweet, manual 6 speed with the short shifter Smiley ...and I can't wait to get this beauty out on the track...hope by March or April.

I have paddle shifters on my little turbo Acura RDX (daily driver), so I don't feel totally left out of today's high tech transmisssion world! Smiley

Keep up the comments and reviews, thanks! Smiley

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Jan 30, 2011 9:49:15 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: doug1950

Re: Collected my GTS today

doug1950:

John H:

To be honest, although it's too early to gauge at high revs, the exhaust note is the one area where the GTS falls down compared to my previous C2S with PSE and the 'always-on' mod. I miss the gurgling and bubbling on the over-run as well as the sheer high decibels..

Funny, I DEFINITELY get the gurgling and bubbling you mention with the high performance exhaust manifolds in sport mode!

Keep up the comments and reviews, thanks!

Maybe you're hearing things in your cab that I'm missing in my coupé.. Smiley

PSE will get louder & better as time goes on.. Smiley

Stuck another 100 miles on her today and topped up again with 99 RON - so should now be running on 98.. Smiley

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Jan 31, 2011 2:36:08 AM

doug1950: Junior; Loc: CA , United States; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2008; Reply to: John H

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Maybe you're hearing things in your cab that I'm missing in my coupé..

PSE will get louder & better as time goes on..

Stuck another 100 miles on her today and topped up again with 99 RON - so should now be running on 98..

Perhaps John, but I doubt I hear anything you can't hear! The PSE in your old C2S was probably louder, that's all...and after all, I am just a "novice" with the PSE in the GTS...so I am hearing every little sound VERY clearly for the first time! Smiley

I like the idea of our notes getting even louder over time! YESSSS!!! Smiley

I did no driving today...rainy day over here in NorCal...so I detailed the hell out of her! She's looking pristine!! Smiley Amazing how we can do such a better job detailing than a Porsche Dealer! Smiley

Now, with any luck, the sun will shine for a change here tomorrow so I can take some nice, clean photos! ...installers are coming to install the "clear armour" on Tuesday...will take some photos of that.

I wish I could get the kind of higher octane gas that you can get! All we have in California is 91...unless I want to drive 80 miles to the nearest race track (Sears Point) where I could get 95, 98, and even 100. Smiley

Glad to hear you got in 100 miles today...way to go!! Smiley

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Jan 31, 2011 2:22:25 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: doug1950

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doug1950:

I wish I could get the kind of higher octane gas that you can get! All we have in California is 91...unless I want to drive 80 miles to the nearest race track (Sears Point) where I could get 95, 98, and even 100.

Doug - regarding fuel octane ratings, there was a discussion here some years ago about the difference between the European and US markets...

I remember RC saying...

"US bound cars have a different motronic software because Porsche seems to be aware that in the US, not every fuel station has 95 octane (US) fuel. Many 997 owners are using 93 octane (US) as far as I heard. If my calculations are right, 93 octane US translate into 96 octane in Europe."

Another member (The Groom) added...

"There are several octane ratings:

Research Octane Number (RON), the highest (because of the test procedure). RON is advertized in Europe.
Motor Octane Number (MON). In most cases, MON = RON - 10.
Pump Octane Number: MON-RON average. Advertized in the US.

A good rule of thumb is to add 5 to the US rating to get the European rating.

In most European countries I've been to, unleaded is 95 RON (90 PON), premium 98 RON (93 PON)"

Hope this helps... Smiley

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Jan 31, 2011 3:26:05 PM

doug1950: Junior; Loc: CA , United States; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2008; Reply to: John H

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I have heard about some of the differences in the ratings and the Europe vs U.S. issues...but thanks for the additional details. Good info

I'll do a bit more research on this with the local PCNA folks too. I do know that my 986S always ran a little better when I mixed in a little 95 or 98 (with the 91 in the tank) at the race track. I expect the GTS would like that as well!

Thanks again...have a great week!

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Feb 1, 2011 2:25:11 AM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: doug1950

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One thing I've noticed is the oil pressure is way lower on the GTS than with my previous car...

Whereas the C2S always registered near maximum, the GTS is mid-range pretty much at all times,

Maybe, when I finally let her go, she will respond but currently she registers 3.0 maximum at 4000 revs.

Is this normal for the DFI engine??

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