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    Jan 19, 2011 3:18:54 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Rossi:

    Just kidding. Sportscars and little kids don't go together well IMO. I can't even use half of the potential of today's sportscars with my child in the backrow. And even less if my wife sits next to me. Smiley

    And I'm not the type of guy who can fully extract the potential of today's sportscars, so my abilities plus wife next to me plus little Rossi behind me - guess what remains in a car like the Turbo. No thanks, I could rather drive a Dacia Diesel instead and would not be much slower. Smiley
     

     

    My wife: "Can't you drive a little bit faster, I'm hungry(or thirsty, or just bored, or...)?"

    My son: "Why do you drive that slow, Daddy?(or: can't we race that motorcycle?)"

    My daughter: "Could you drive faster, so I can fall asleep?" (she always falls asleep when the engine/exhaust noise gets louder...weird kid).

    The perfect sports car family... Smiley

    It is about fun, not necessarily extracting the car's full potential, especially not on a public street. Why should I drive a boring family car when commuting with my family ? No way. Smiley

    Does somebody know if Lamborghini is going to build a 4-seater Gallardo ? Smiley Smiley

    Just kidding, I'm going to stick with Porsche. Smiley


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    Jan 19, 2011 3:21:13 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    xandi911:

     

    RC  in live this 991 looks much difference than 997?? i mean wider and longer, more agressive?

     

     

    in pics  looks almost the same...

     

    If you actually look at the Auto BILD rendering/photoshop job very carefully, you can identify the new shape line, which is more masculine. The rear light LEDs aren't quite right on the rendering (it is more Audi-like but with the same shape) but otherwise, the photos are pretty accurate. 


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    Jan 19, 2011 3:38:13 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:
    xandi911:

     

    RC  in live this 991 looks much difference than 997?? i mean wider and longer, more agressive?

     

     

    in pics  looks almost the same...

     

    If you actually look at the Auto BILD rendering/photoshop job very carefully, you can identify the new shape line, which is more masculine. The rear light LEDs aren't quite right on the rendering (it is more Audi-like but with the same shape) but otherwise, the photos are pretty accurate. 

     

    you mean more like this right?


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    Jan 19, 2011 3:43:30 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Nope, this is the very same rendering published in Auto BILD. 

    The LED light needs some sort of structure.

     


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    Jan 19, 2011 3:49:21 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

     it is the same rendering but I tweaked the shape of the rearlights a little bit

     


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    Jan 19, 2011 3:50:22 PM

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    Jan 19, 2011 3:55:31 PM

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    Jan 19, 2011 4:35:54 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    SmileySmiley


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    Jan 19, 2011 4:37:00 PM

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    Wild-Speed, Great stuff as usual SmileySmiley


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    Jan 19, 2011 5:48:35 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:

    So far the most accurate renderings available (Source: AutoBILD Germany).

    9911.png

    9912.png

     RC, and what about headlights, will they stay exactlty the same, like autobilds rendering?

    And wheels? New designs?

    Thank`s.

    Jan 19, 2011 10:41:57 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Wow... If it looks like this for the next 991, then I am in love.
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    Jan 19, 2011 11:08:50 PM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    991 stuck in the snow: http://www.worldcarfans.com/111011930478/2012-porsche-911-prototype-gets-stuck-in-the-snow

    Jan 20, 2011 12:16:17 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:
    Does somebody know if Lamborghini is going to build a 4-seater Gallardo ? Smiley Smiley

     

    Yes, they are.  Smiley

    http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1053844_report-audi-backs-development-of-new-a9-flagship-and-lamborghini-estoque

     

    Jan 20, 2011 1:22:19 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC:

    So far the most accurate renderings available (Source: AutoBILD Germany).

    9911.png

    1295486309423Porsche-911-Illustration-560x373-905a21807287eb3e.jpg

    9912.png

    Thanks RC -- looks good so far!

    Quick question: do you have any idea which engine the 991 GT3 RS will get?

    ...could it get the 4.0 litre GT1-based motorsport engine from the 997.3 GT3 RS or maybe...

    ...a development of the MR6 3.4 litre 90-degree V8 from the RS Spyder? Smiley

    Smiley SmileySmiley SmileySmiley

    Jan 20, 2011 6:40:58 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    I really like what I see from the spyshots, however, it seems like the height of the rear light units is going to be very small, therefore leading to a big "empty space" under the light units (indicated by red line in pic below). My feeling is that that will take a lot of getting used to.

    BTW, in the pictures of the prototype stuck in the snow, did anybody notice that this one does have that spoiler on the top of the rear windscreen again?

    image.png


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    Jan 20, 2011 7:41:20 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Joost:

    BTW, in the pictures of the prototype stuck in the snow, did anybody notice that this one does have that spoiler on the top of the rear windscreen again?

     

    That's the panorama glass roof isn't it? Smiley

    Jan 20, 2011 8:05:13 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    Joost:

    I really like what I see from the spyshots, however, it seems like the height of the rear light units is going to be very small, therefore leading to a big "empty space" under the light units (indicated by red line in pic below). My feeling is that that will take a lot of getting used to.

    BTW, in the pictures of the prototype stuck in the snow, did anybody notice that this one does have that spoiler on the top of the rear windscreen again?

    image.png

    Joost -- good point, it's clear from the snow pics that the new rear light unit is less tall than the camouflage on the 991 test prototypes...

    911-GT3_TG-04.jpg

    ...perhaps there will be some air vents in the 991 rear bumper (per the GT3) to add some detail in this space below the shallower rear lights? Smiley

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-01.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-02.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-03.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-04.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-05.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-06.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-07.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-08.jpg

    2011-Porsche-991_Sweden-snow-09.jpg

    ...and a couple of close-up pics of the 918 RSR rear lights...

    Porsche-918-RSR_rear-left-light.jpg

    Porsche-918-RSR_rear-right-light.jpg

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    Jan 20, 2011 8:18:10 AM

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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thread Closed

    RC claims they won't be like this and instead more Audi like.. But they will probably take some hints in shape and layout. Just hoping there will be a possibility for a strip like in the good old days.


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    Jan 20, 2011 11:49:03 AM

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    Atzporsche:

    RC claims they won't be like this and instead more Audi like.. But they will probably take some hints in shape and layout. Just hoping there will be a possibility for a strip like in the good old days.

    I'm pretty sure that in one of the "lessons learnt" sessions held between the 997 and 991 design teams, one of the guys mentioned that the shape of the rear lights should allow for a nice reflector stripe, rather than the design disgrace which is the 997.2 C4 stripe...


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    Jan 20, 2011 12:15:23 PM

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    Atzporsche:

    RC claims they won't be like this and instead more Audi like.. But they will probably take some hints in shape and layout. Just hoping there will be a possibility for a strip like in the good old days.

     

    No, they will be like this but in these larger photos, you can actually see the "structure" I mentioned. Sorry for the confusion. Smiley

    The only reason I'm waiting for the 991 is the beauty of this car (yes, really), the new interior and of course the highly improved chassis/PDK/traction control system (track times should be substantially improved).

    I really wanted the GTS because it is really a very good offer, even the 997 Turbo S attracted me but I need to stay calm and make a wise decision next year (997 Carrera S or maybe Turbo again...). Dammit...this happens if one has too many choices. Smiley Smiley

     


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    Jan 20, 2011 12:54:32 PM

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    agree RC... it is also why I am not biting at the 997.2 Turbo.... the 991 will be so beautiful... and I don't really need to drive that fast. :)


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    Jan 20, 2011 2:41:19 PM

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    I love the 918 Spyder's rear lights. I also love the 997.2 rear lights. They look fantastic at night. I just hope that whatever Porsche comes up with is at least as attractive but preferably more attractive than what we've already seen


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    Jan 20, 2011 2:56:12 PM

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    The Audi style influence:

    A4/6/8 rear lights

    R8 front - side intakes

    What's next?

    Jan 20, 2011 3:46:46 PM

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     I believe more in my renderings ....  AutoBild is wrong .

    1295538398045991 rear misha.JPG

    Jan 20, 2011 5:06:03 PM

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    RC:
    The only reason I'm waiting for the 991 is the beauty of this car (yes, really), the new interior and of course the highly improved chassis/PDK/traction control system (track times should be substantially improved).

     

    RC: Can you share what those improvements are? particularly chassis and PDK?


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    Jan 20, 2011 5:07:27 PM

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    RC:

    The only reason I'm waiting for the 991 is the beauty of this car (yes, really)

     

    Damn,print out a picture from your mind!!Smiley


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    Jan 20, 2011 5:27:31 PM

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    RC:

    I really wanted the GTS because it is really a very good offer, even the 997 Turbo S attracted me but I need to stay calm and make a wise decision next year (997 Carrera S or maybe Turbo again...). Dammit...this happens if one has too many choices. Smiley Smiley

     


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    Jan 20, 2011 6:51:13 PM

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    haven't even received my sls yet and already looking forward to this......sick


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    Jan 20, 2011 8:00:32 PM

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    The new GT3 is going to be sick, cant wait....


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    Jan 20, 2011 8:19:15 PM

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    throt:

    The new GT3 is going to be sick, cant wait....


    I hope there will be PDK for the GT3, but that's maybe the GTS?Smiley

     
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