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Oct 7, 2010 3:26:32 AM
- Atzporsche
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reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry 
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reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry
Exactly! You could add footballers, actors of various sorts and models to the list.
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Oct 7, 2010 12:58:56 PM
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Plus the fact that creating a 4 door saloon based on the success of this front engined coupe was easier to be accepted by the public... Followed later by another evolution, a SUV...
I don't know... why they dropped this model? Low sale numbers?
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Plus the fact that creating a 4 door saloon based on the success of this front engined coupe was easier to be accepted by the public... Followed later by another evolution, a SUV...
I don't know... why they dropped this model? Low sale numbers?
Sales dropped significantly in later years (lifespan 1978-1995) and Porsche didn't have the funds to develop the car further, as the story goes.
Instead they made the Boxster and the 996 with many common parts. Both models made money for the company but the 928-lineage opportunity was lost. I expect they will introduce a V8 front engined coupe soon and their marketing theme will be based on the 928.
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We have talked about it before, the economy was a mess with no bail-outs - high end items were especially hard hit. Very different economy than today. Add in the currency problems back then and Porsche was near collapse. early 1990's
928 was a very expensive hand built car that was no longer profitable to make in the low numbers of those tough times, so WW invited the japanese in to cut costs, streamline production, and sell lots of inexpensive boxsters.
EDIT: reginos has it right
Costs had spun out of control, the family was squabbling, chief executives were coming and going, and Porsche seemed destined to lose its independence. “We were this close to the precipice,” Mr. Porsche said, putting his fingers inches from the edge of a table
Porsche has ambitious plans to bring out new models, like the 986, a lower-priced Porsche, to try to reverse a steep sales slump in this country; sales in the United States, which peaked in 1986 at 30,471, sales plunged in 1993 to about 3,800 in America.
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964C2:
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Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
.....but daddy had a lot of money.
Not necessarily, there's a lot of studies that higher education does not pay off on average. It might pay off for the best, but as it's hard to find a comparison group you can't really tell.
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964C2:
reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
.....but daddy had a lot of money.Not necessarily, there's a lot of studies that higher education does not pay off on average. It might pay off for the best, but as it's hard to find a comparison group you can't really tell.
I'd say that it pays off for the luckiest, not the best... 
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There is a clear ranking in the education, and by "best" I meant by that standard. That, of course, is by no means the same as the most intelligent or hardest working or something like that.
If you have to work besides studying, or get sick, or simply have bad luck with your teachers, you'll naturally have a disadvantage.
Oct 7, 2010 10:42:56 PM
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Lars997:
reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry
Bill Gates and Mark Zukkerberg (young Facebook billionaire) both quit Harvard...
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Grant:
Lars997:
reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry
Bill Gates and Mark Zukkerberg (young Facebook billionaire) both quit Harvard...
... but they have still been bright at school, haven´t they?
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Grant:
Lars997:
reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry
Bill Gates and Mark Zukkerberg (young Facebook billionaire) both quit Harvard...
School - for the most part a joke. Even the smartest wage earner will never get rich. The good schools are more like clubs. Once you are in there are many opportunities presented in the form of connections, introductions, etc... The world is about who you know not what you know. (the only exception - a medical degree)
We see it everyday with the incompetence in the Govt. and in the Boardrooms, It was not merit or brains that got these people in position it was connections and opportunities. btw I have said it before, my programming professor at Harvard was Bill Gates roomate when gates dropped out.
Oct 8, 2010 10:48:19 PM
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I would say that is more so true for North America. In europe, value sets are slightly different and i think over there it is a little more what you know, rather than who you know. It's a big generalization and of course not true all the time, just my feeling. At least i'd like to think this is the case.
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Ferdie:
Grant:
Lars997:
reginos:
Often people who can afford ultra- expensive cars even above the R8, haven't been that bright at school. Some of them haven't even completed their education.
That might be right. But many of those might be a bit dubious, rappers, drug dealers or in the porn industry
Bill Gates and Mark Zukkerberg (young Facebook billionaire) both quit Harvard...
... but they have still been bright at school, haven´t they?
I think Steve Jobs is a better example. In any case, getting a degree is less important nowadays compare to last generation. There were few VCs, no mobile and internet economy and little disruptive opportunities, basically there was no ecosystem for new venture creation back then. But it's still important to be able to get into a decent school, preferably ivy league, as a prove of your intelligence, and drop out to pursue your business venture.
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The statistics say that on average, someone with a college education will earn more money than someone without. I'd also be willing to bet that there are far more rich people with degrees than there are not. The average doesn't show show a huge gap because it's simply not common to be rich, but if you run down a list of all the executives at companies, I'm sure most will have degrees.
Really, how many jobs in life pay large salaries that could be gotten without an education these days? You really have to work for yourself to make it big without an education. It would be very uncommon to be hired into a high paying job without an education. Not the the education is super useful -- usually its not very relevant at all -- but it's more likely that someone with an education was able to get a better low rank job, worked in the industry longer, made his way up, and therefor has far more experience/opportunity than someone without.
However, that doesn't mean their degree came in handy, per se. I did very well for myself and have an engineering degree I never put to use and probably never will. Still, I learned a lot in school that has been useful in life and no doubt has contributed to my success at some point, be it by chance, be it work ethic, who knows, but I do know I learned stuff.
If you want to be rich without an education, you'll probably have to be self-made. If you want to get rich working for someone else, its very unlikely to get to the top without an education because you have to start at the bottom and you wont get hired in at the bottom without a degree.
Oct 10, 2010 10:58:11 AM
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Carlos from Spain
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wedouglas:
The statistics say that on average, someone with a college education will earn more money than someone without. I'd also be willing to bet that there are far more rich people with degrees than there are not. The average doesn't show show a huge gap because it's simply not common to be rich, but if you run down a list of all the executives at companies, I'm sure most will have degrees.
Really, how many jobs in life pay large salaries that could be gotten without an education these days? You really have to work for yourself to make it big without an education. It would be very uncommon to be hired into a high paying job without an education. Not the the education is super useful -- usually its not very relevant at all -- but it's more likely that someone with an education was able to get a better low rank job, worked in the industry longer, made his way up, and therefor has far more experience/opportunity than someone without.
However, that doesn't mean their degree came in handy, per se. I did very well for myself and have an engineering degree I never put to use and probably never will. Still, I learned a lot in school that has been useful in life and no doubt has contributed to my success at some point, be it by chance, be it work ethic, who knows, but I do know I learned stuff.
If you want to be rich without an education, you'll probably have to be self-made. If you want to get rich working for someone else, its very unlikely to get to the top without an education because you have to start at the bottom and you wont get hired in at the bottom without a degree.
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Education is absolutely essential for many professions, you can't design a plane or a car, or treat sick patients, or teach at a universitiy, or discover cure for diseases, or design buildings, and so on without an education.
Also education gives a lot more than the strict knowledge to carry ouit a certain profesion, it also develops work ethic, general knowledge, stimulates your mind, friendships, etc. There is nothing you can do without an education that you can't with one, true that in some great professions you may not need the degree but it always helps and never hurts.
The bottom line is that without an education you are limited severily to what you have the option to do in life, because there are many high-paying & highly-rewarding jobs that necesarily require an education (health sciences, engineering, architecture, lawyer, etc) but there is none that require one not to have one. I'd hardly call that a joke.
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Oct 10, 2010 11:38:29 AM
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You also have to account for the price of the education and the fact that someone with higher education starts to earn later in life.
If you factor that in, on average college education does not make sense.
However, salary isn't the only reward of a job, if you want to be a doctor, you need higher education (and rightly so).
If you just want to drive Porsche, it's another story.
Oct 10, 2010 7:44:46 PM
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