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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
reginos:
John, add CEE and CEF. Minimal additional cost for these nice touches.
I looked for those two items when you mentioned them in a previous post, but couldn't find either of them in the UK configurator..
Perhaps you could direct me?
I really appreciate all the help you and everyone else is offering...
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Sep 21, 2010 1:47:16 PM
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If you want to buy the GTS, try to make a good deal. Don't let dealers take you for a fool.
911 sales have slowed down and dealers need to move more cars.
The dealers here have a new program where they will knock $1000 off of a 2010 911, AND pay up to 3 years of your current Porsche lease/finance to get you into the new car. They have dropped their interest rates 2 points as well. All of this would have been unheard of in 'normal' times.They are obviously hurting for sales.
Sep 21, 2010 2:02:26 PM
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John H:
reginos:
John, add CEE and CEF. Minimal additional cost for these nice touches.
I looked for those two items when you mentioned them in a previous post, but couldn't find either of them in the UK configurator..
Perhaps you could direct me?
The UK configurator doesn't have all the "Exclusive" options. I checked on the German site and these options are still available under option codes CEE and CEF.
No pictures there but let me describe them:
The rear footwell lighting (CEE) consists on 2 LED lights (the size of the front footwell lights under the dash) located left and right on the vertical carpeted panel below the rear seats. They illuminate together with the rest of interior lighting when you open the doors or operate the light switch.
The Door pocket lights (CEF) are also small LED lights that illuminate the door pockets storage space when you open the lid to facilitate locating things stored. They light up only when there is little or no ambient lighting.
The P Centre will have the details when you mention the codes. They cost some 250 Euro each.
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Sep 21, 2010 5:33:57 PM
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
JoeRockhead:
Great spec John. Do you plan on using winter tires for this car? The only thing I would consider would be standard wheels if I had another set of wheels to consider. Other than that,
Thanks Joe... winter tyres are pretty much unheard of in the UK, so not a problem in choosing the RS Spyder wheels..
In the event of unusually severe weather conditions we tend to use the wife's car..
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
John H:
JoeRockhead:
Great spec John. Do you plan on using winter tires for this car? The only thing I would consider would be standard wheels if I had another set of wheels to consider. Other than that,
In the event of unusually severe weather conditions we tend to use the wife's car..
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Sep 21, 2010 5:47:56 PM
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John H:
JoeRockhead:
Great spec John. Do you plan on using winter tires for this car? The only thing I would consider would be standard wheels if I had another set of wheels to consider. Other than that,
Thanks Joe... winter tyres are pretty much unheard of in the UK, so not a problem in choosing the RS Spyder wheels..
In the event of unusually severe weather conditions we tend to use the wife's car..
Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
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100% agree. Alcantara steering wheel is not the best choice. All other Alcantara applications work well though (seats etc.).
I actually love Alcantara, especially the steering wheel because it provides a better grip than leather. It is a matter of personal taste however, not everybody likes Alcantara. I have a friend who has a general obsession against Alcantara, really weird.
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Sep 22, 2010 12:38:24 PM
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I love Alcantara, as well. Had it in one car and it was the nicest interior material ever.
But what I HATE is getting busy with work and life and forgetting to check in with Rennteam, thus missing a big story like this. I feel like the GTS is a "missing link" in the line up, a choice for those who want something between a CS2 and a GT3.
I'd love to see them continue it in the 991 line as a regular offering. The wide body is great looking but I never needed the four wheel drive. So I like seeing this option.
And I'm a sucker for the 911 in white. Two of my three have been white, really just by chance.
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Sep 22, 2010 12:47:31 PM
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Sep 22, 2010 2:34:56 PM
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
If you want one, you may want to talk to your local dealer now. The 991 is just around the corner (next spring ?), I don't think that the GTS will be around for too long.
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Sep 22, 2010 3:06:13 PM
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I agree. I think they'll sell out fast and I also think they'll be a little more collectible.
But, for now, I'm happy with what I have and not likely to make a change for a couple of years. And, in all honesty, I expect that change is more likely to be in the direction of a GT3.
A white one with an Alcantara interior, preferably!
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Sep 22, 2010 3:08:05 PM
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
Many congrats John 
I think this is a really smart choice
I too remember how disappointed you were when your proposed purchase of the other car fell through - so it feels to me like PAG introduced a new model just for you 
So, everything worked out great in the end 
I really like your proposed spec BTW Other guys here have already done a terrific job of pointing out tweaks/improvements. I can't add more to that.
Your spec looks very much like that of a guy who has already owned a 911 and knows exactly what he wants next time round
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Sep 22, 2010 4:34:30 PM
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Looking at what John H is doing - buying the end-of-lifecycle product with all the wrinkles ironed out and with a great set of options included at a superb price - it's a really smart move IMO 
It reminds me of a guy I sometimes see (when I am walking home) driving a 911 in Canary Wharf 
When I first saw him, he was driving a fully loaded basalt black 996.2 Turbo S with PCCBs and yellow seat belts etc. He looked to be a man of mature years and good taste.
Very recently, I saw him again. This time, he was driving a fully loaded basalt black 997.2 Turbo S with PCCBs and yellow seat belts. He looked a little older - but just as happy 
Many years ago, my dad bought a Mercedes-Benz 190E 1.8 Auto LE. The Limited Edition version was bulletproof. All the options thrown in It was a reliable and great car - I still miss driving it My dad still misses it even though he now has a 320 CLK
There is clearly a market in selling an end-of-lifecycle product for people who are not interested in having the latest, flashy thing - they want to subtly enjoy a product that has been tested (and improved) by other people's ownership experiences and which PAG has refined to the point where it offers the best overall package it can offer.
Sure, the 991 will no doubt be a big step up in technology but do remember how the launch 997.1 models were compared to the 997.2 Carrera GTS. There's plenty of evolution there too. After all, the 997 launch models came out in Autumn 2004!! No doubt there will be plenty of evolution during the lifecycle of the 991 too
So, from a marketing point of view, it's easy to scoff at the Carrera GTS as being a parts bin emptying exercise designed to keep up sales (and prolong the life) of the model range until the 991 comes out. However, from a customer ownership point of view, it's a great buy IMO.
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Sep 22, 2010 5:09:06 PM
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Congrats John, your spec looks the business and I guess you can't go wrong with the GTS in that colour. It's a car you can keep for a long time until the 991 reaches its mid-cycle. By the way if any of you is interested in a Black 2005 Carrera GT please let me know, the car is in super condition and has two-tone leather, no accidents and ready to be shipped anywhere in the world
Sep 23, 2010 10:31:58 AM
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
easy_rider911:
Looking at what John H is doing - buying the end-of-lifecycle product with all the wrinkles ironed out and with a great set of options included at a superb price - it's a really smart move IMO
Yes, indeed. Especially since I also think that the GTS will retain a much better value than for example the regular Carrera S model. Much better doesn't necessarily mean 20 or 30% better but in this price class, even 5-10% can be a lot of money.
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Sep 25, 2010 6:24:22 PM
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Great news, John - very smart buy indeed. Many congrats on the decision I'm sure the extra sportiness will make the GTS a very special Carrera. On paper the GTS seems to be the best of both worlds in terms of comfort and sportiness
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Sep 29, 2010 10:52:32 PM
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Re: Carrera GTS: Porsche 911 Now Even Sportier
I finalised my spec' with the OPC today..
The car should arrive at the dealer in late December but still not sure of the registration date. Porsche have declared the vehicle to be a 2011 launch, which suits me fine so long as I don't have to pay the extra VAT involved.
They (both dealer and manufacturer) are hoping that the car can be paid for at the end of December and registered on 4th January as the New Year holidays fall on a week-end. That would mean payment at the existing rate of VAT with registration and delivery on 4th January.
I managed to get Reginos' suggestion of CEE & CEF lighting options included, but dropped Voice Control on the advice of the dealer. I also managed to exclude the 3rd year warranty up-front as a 2 year extension will be cheaper... if and when the time comes.
Final Specification is...
I must admit the trade-in value quoted on my existing car is short of my expectations, but they have indicated a desire to "keep me happy" when the deal is concluded.... we'll see..
There will be a Demo mock-up of the vehicle on display at the OPC on 27th October which I will attend and obviously take some photos.
They have already given me my invitation to the up-dated 'Porsche Driving Experience' at Silverstone which I'll take up in the new year.
Any further observations would be gratefully received... 
The wait begins....
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Sep 30, 2010 6:21:25 AM
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