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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Thanks for sharing this results Kreso, I think you should have created a new thread to post this.
Amazing results for Turbo S and Gallardo. The Galardo weigth is almost unbelieveble, it must make the drive way much more pleasant.
Nowadays , more than power , these brands should concetrate on building cars with less weight, can you imagine the 458 with 1200Kg or even less !!!! It would be a dream car to drive. I would give an "arm" to have my Carrera S with 400Kg less, it would be better drive than any other sports car of the moment, and 100-200Kph would be in pair with Turbo S figures 
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
KresoF1:
Artur, About 36s would be right. Even 35s is possible since I know that some examples of 997.2 Turbo PDK did 0-300km/h in 39.4s...
dont think he will match a 36 time.
Sport auto 0-300-0 test was for porsche turbo pdk 41 secs up to 300 kmh given that the turbo s is about 0.5 secs faster up to 200 kmh aprox , i would be surprised if the turbo s makes it under 38 secs.
Gearing is the same turbo and turbo s
As i wrote before, i allready had a comparison with my gt2 vs turbo pdk from 200 to v max and the gt2 makes his way about 240 kmh clairly.
Given the sport auto test had once the gt2 up to 300kmh in 36 secs (official is 33) i dont think the turbo s will make the same time specialy about my comparison, to big was the gap between gt2 and turbo pdk
Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Dario
I only use RS Tuning for engine work, they are the best, better than Manthey (who use outside programmer and rolling road for tuning). Manthey's forte is chassis set up and race preparation. In the 24 Nurburgring race you refer to the RS Tuning engined Porsche Cup finished in front of all the Manthey and official Porsche entrants - it was the best placed Porsche. My 0-300 is about 26s but that is for a non "built" engine - bolt ons only, the Cargraphic car we are discussing has special rods and a lot of torque, it did 200-300kph in 14.8s which is 0.83s faster than mine (it is about 60kg heavier than mine, similar aerodynamics, 4WD v 2WD) different day and conditions so FWIW ?
do you refear to www.rs-tuning.de im not sure if i got you wright, was not mantey winning the race over 4 years in a row, just this year crashed by somebody or is rs-tunning writting the ecu of mantey.
For me it seems about wright to reach an output of 600hp with ecu and cats but i do think mantey has very capables people witch put there hands on your car, (also for services)
What ist the torque quoted by cargraphic for this car...
Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Dario:
do you refear to www.rs-tuning.de im not sure if i got you wright, was not mantey winning the race over 4 years in a row, just this year crashed by somebody or is rs-tunning writting the ecu of mantey.
For me it seems about wright to reach an output of 600hp with ecu and cats but i do think mantey has very capables people witch put there hands on your car, (also for services)
What ist the torque quoted by cargraphic for this car...
Yes that is the RS Tuning, he used to be Ruf's chief engineer and creator of CTR Yellowbird engine. I may be reffering to a different race, it was the 24hr Nurburgring a couple of months ago, RS Tuning powered the H&R Porsche which was the highest place Porsche. They do not work with/for Manthey.
RS Tuning kits are marketed by Cargraphic, Manthey are good but not the best (at engines) IMO.
Cargraphic lied about the torque. The car originally had 826NM (which is what they quote in the test) but it got rebuilt with Carrillos and tuned at 900NM, it also wears the mega expensive Secan intercoolers. Maybe "lie" is not correct, I guess the cars have to have TUV and the 826NM kit had this approval so they possibly didn't want to have to go through approval again after the retune ?
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Dario
I found the article below about a Cargraphic 99tt with the exact same spec engine as the car we were talking about (the black one) and they quote 677PS/900NM so I guess you are right about the 630PS claim. In the article they state acceleration numbers and claim this car (the white one) has been tested by Sport Auto but the numbers they quote are the exact same as the ones in the 0-300-0 test on the black car - I don't believe SA have tested the white one in the article.
What is interesting is the maximum torque is at 5100rpm so that means this engine has 660PS at 5100rpm so it is a massive power curve - very fast and certainly 0-300 in that 23.8s no problem !!
It is interesting because on paper my peak hp is 660 so only 17 behind this car but in reality my curve is much flimsier with its limited torque and is 3+ seconds slower to 300 despite being only 17hp down - it is all in the detail !
http://www.cargraphic.de/stepone/data/downloads/43/12/00/GT-0810.pdf
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Yes that is the RS Tuning, he used to be Ruf's chief engineer and creator of CTR Yellowbird engine. I may be reffering to a different race, it was the 24hr Nurburgring a couple of months ago, RS Tuning powered the H&R Porsche which was the highest place Porsche. They do not work with/for Manthey.
RS Tuning kits are marketed by Cargraphic, Manthey are good but not the best (at engines) IMO.
Cargraphic lied about the torque. The car originally had 826NM (which is what they quote in the test) but it got rebuilt with Carrillos and tuned at 900NM, it also wears the mega expensive Secan intercoolers. Maybe "lie" is not correct, I guess the cars have to have TUV and the 826NM kit had this approval so they possibly didn't want to have to go through approval again after the retune ?
Very intresting infos about cargraphic, that infact could also be the cas with the hp witch i wrote already (over 700hp)
we speak about the same race the 24 h Nürburgring and in fact the Porsche GT3 Cup S from H&R was the fastest porsche this year, but it wouldnt have a chance against the manthey porsche (witch won this race 4 times in a row 2005-2009) if the manthey wouldnt have crashed by an other car after a clear lead over all the audi r8 and other porsches / cars. And to mentioned as well that the hybrid factory porsche was after the out of manthey as well in the lead but strugled after 23 houers with an mechanical failure. It the end it was a bmw witch won the race after 24 hours but only becaouse of the bad look of the porsches and audi r8. The speed of the manthey porsche was untachable by any other car
So concerning Nürburgring and the 24 h race there is no doubt that manthey is the most experienced and succesfull racer what porsche concerned. But as you said it could be that mantey is not devlepoing here own software, ( i dont have infos about that) but for many other parts the develope themself and have aswell support from porsches factory.
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TB993tt:
Dario
I found the article below about a Cargraphic 99tt with the exact same spec engine as the car we were talking about (the black one) and they quote 677PS/900NM so I guess you are right about the 630PS claim. In the article they state acceleration numbers and claim this car (the white one) has been tested by Sport Auto but the numbers they quote are the exact same as the ones in the 0-300-0 test on the black car - I don't believe SA have tested the white one in the article.
What is interesting is the maximum torque is at 5100rpm so that means this engine has 660PS at 5100rpm so it is a massive power curve - very fast and certainly 0-300 in that 23.8s no problem !!
It is interesting because on paper my peak hp is 660 so only 17 behind this car but in reality my curve is much flimsier with its limited torque and is 3+ seconds slower to 300 despite being only 17hp down - it is all in the detail !
http://www.cargraphic.de/stepone/data/downloads/43/12/00/GT-0810.pdf
very intresting, thanks for posting that
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Porsche 997 Turbo S acceleration run by Chris Harris...
Porsche 997 Turbo S acceleration run by Chris Harris...
Porsche 997 Turbo S on track at Bedford by Evo magazine...
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Porsche 997 Turbo S acceleration run by Chris Harris...
Porsche 997 Turbo S acceleration run by Chris Harris...
Thats a great shot.
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The Turbo S is extremely impressive and the best car the money can buy for $200K.
My car was delivered on June 30 and I won't drive anything else since.
The Turbo S is like my Carrera GT from a performance stand point. Actually you feel stronger accelerations, maybe as the result of a quick 0-60mph and turbo boost effect. Unlike the CGT, you can drive this car everyday and she really feels safe at all speeds. The new Turbo S is two cars in one; a very docile everyday drive that with the touch of a button morphs into a track beast. The only thing missing here is a CGT like sound, even though Porsche has really improved the sound in comparison to the Turbos of the past decade. The funny note is that I never thought that kind of car would ever offer a Bluetooth phone interface, a voice activated GPS with touch screen, an iPod connection and a bunch of other goodies...
This said, I certainly won't sell my CGT, at least until I get my hands on the upcoming 918 and still. But I probably won't sell the Turbo S either. How better can this car be in 10 years? You just can't improve what's already perfect but maybe the engineers of Porsche will prove me wrong once again.
Porsche!! Kudos. This is the best car I've ever had the chance to drive...and I've owned and drove quite a few.
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Thanks for those pictures mate!
In times of real misery at my work (way too high pressure by unrealistic managers :P ), it's time to see some nice CGT pics every now and then! Really awesome combo!
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guys do u think this vid is real ?
really shocked
he did 0-100 in 2.8s in turbo S
http://www.streetfire.net/video/9972-pdk-turbo-s-0210kph_2036121.htm
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Cocodrilo:
Hi guys... Just sold my cayman s, and my new turbo S cabriolet is on the way now. It's a guards red with 2 tone cream and black interior CF package. As soon as I get the car will post pics.
That is one special combo you ordered. can't wait to see the pics, congrats !
Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
From GCF 
0-60 mph: 2,9 s (0-100 km/h in est. 3,1 s)
0-100 mph: 6,6 s (0-160 km/h in est. 6,5 s)
0-120 mph: 9,5 s (0-200 km/h in est. 10,2 s)
0-150 mph: 15,7 s (0-240 km/h in est. 15,5 s)
0-170 mph: 22,7 s (0-275 km/h in est. 23,0 s)
0-180 mph: 27,8 s (0-300 km/h in est. 33,0-34,0 s)
1/4 mile: 11,0 s (207 km/h)
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Very fast indeed.... as before, results have to be taken for this test only not comparable to Sport Auto tests. Runs were with driver only and unknown level of fuel tank ? The runs were at Bruntingthorpe which has a power sapping surface so may be even quicker on smooth asphalt ?
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