RC:
temm:
Same engine as the Z4 M, the twin-turbo N54 with app 340hp/450nm.
There is a Z4 M with twin-turbo N54 ?
I guess he meant Z4 3.5is.
There is no Z4 M model with twin-turbo. That car had 3.2 343 hp straight 6 from E46 M3.
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derder:
nice find! wonder what weight does it end up being. hopefully it hasnt piled on too much weight as with the modern m3. hanging for more details
I read that the expected weight is around 1450 kg.
A little heavy for its size.
However, that turbo engine has huge potential for tuning so I expect many of the 1Ms will be faster than E9X M3.
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Latest rumor: Z4 3.5is engine with 360 HP.
The M1 could be faster than the M3 Coupe from 0-100 kph and 0-200 kph if BMW M GmbH decides that the power figure can be higher than 360 HP. According to our source, the HP output of the engine isn't final yet.
Tuning turbo charged BMW cars sounds tempting but since BMW has access to lots of data from these cars (service), I wouldn't do it. BMW is pretty tough on warranty issues.
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RC:
Latest rumor: Z4 3.5is engine with 360 HP.
The M1 could be faster than the M3 Coupe from 0-100 kph and 0-200 kph if BMW M GmbH decides that the power figure can be higher than 360 HP. According to our source, the HP output of the engine isn't final yet.
Tuning turbo charged BMW cars sounds tempting but since BMW has access to lots of data from these cars (service), I wouldn't do it. BMW is pretty tough on warranty issues.
I will be chipping my M3 once I buy Akrapovic EVO titan. exhaust. It is needed for the 100cel cats and for V-max.
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pride355:
I will be chipping my M3 once I buy Akrapovic EVO titan. exhaust. It is needed for the 100cel cats and for V-max.
Good luck with your warranty.
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Jul 9, 2010 6:35:45 PM
Jul 9, 2010 11:00:06 PM
pride355:
RC:
temm:
Same engine as the Z4 M, the twin-turbo N54 with app 340hp/450nm.
There is a Z4 M with twin-turbo N54 ?
I guess he meant Z4 3.5is.
There is no Z4 M model with twin-turbo. That car had 3.2 343 hp straight 6 from E46 M3.
Yes, my bad. I was thinking about the Z4 35is.
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Atzporsche:
I LOVE THIS CAR!! Closest thing to my e30 in terms of size and shape. This M will shred.
It is the closest thing, but sadly it won't nearly match your e30 at all in terms of feel and responses (too big and heavy with lag from motor). It will be much faster though...
I am considering one for Euro Delivery as a Daily Driver (7% discount).
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WAY:
I am interested in this car if it is lighter and much more powerful. Otherwise I had a better 135i than this with more power, LSD, massive brakes, cf panels through out etc etc.
WAY,
You have already created your version of M1. Your car is a monster. Don't expect 1M to be lighter and faster than your car. Your car is more like 1M-GTS
In the end 1M shouldn't be faster than E9X M3 ın stock form.
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Jul 10, 2010 2:22:22 PM
Jul 10, 2010 4:12:48 PM
Grant:
Atzporsche:
I LOVE THIS CAR!! Closest thing to my e30 in terms of size and shape. This M will shred.
It is the closest thing, but sadly it won't nearly match your e30 at all in terms of feel and responses (too big and heavy with lag from motor). It will be much faster though...
I am considering one for Euro Delivery as a Daily Driver (7% discount).
Yes correct, it would be a great daily.
indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine.. I happen to like both :)
Jul 10, 2010 11:41:00 PM
Jul 14, 2010 7:54:46 PM
Chris Harris video: "QUICK RIDE IN BMW 1 SERIES M COUPE"
(14 July 2010)
"At the M3 GTS launch yesterday BMW also rolled-out a 1 Series M development hack. This caught us all slightly unawares, especially when they said they'd do a few passenger rides.
So, in the true spirit of low-quality, gorilla video I did my best to capture something.
The car is very interesting and should help drag BMW M back towards its heartland. It's currently running a 135i motor with a re-map and different exhaust, so the sound was slightly disappointing. It felt quick though. expect around 340bhp from the production car Q1 2011.
Chassis wise it's a load of E92 M3 bits wedged underneath a set of wider wheel arches. It's a very interesting looking thing: it's almost square. The cambers give it that classic M-car look.
Here's the video. I only had one lap so tried to ask a few questions."
Chris-Harris_BMW-1-Series-M-Coupe_Evo-blog
Jul 16, 2010 1:25:29 PM
Thanks for the video. I just hope that our rumor of 360 HP is valid but this car shouldn't be faster than the M3 for various reasons but I can imagine that it has a similar performance.
Should be fun to drive, I'm just curious about the price tag.
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RC:
Thanks for the video. I just hope that our rumor of 360 HP is valid but this car shouldn't be faster than the M3 for various reasons but I can imagine that it has a similar performance.
Should be fun to drive, I'm just curious about the price tag.
I expect it to be 45.000 to 50.000 Euro in Germany (without V.A.T.), in basic trim.
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Found this info on 1addicts:
What will it be named?
According to Scott, it will not be named M1. At this point we still don't know what it will be named but there's evidence that suggest it could be named M Turbo.
When can we expect to see the M1?
The First details of the production car will be announced at the end of the year [2010].
When will it go on sale?
The car will be ready for market launch at the end of the year and sales will begin in all parts of the world in mid 2011.
When will I be able to test drive an M1 in the U.S. And when will they stop making them (end of production)?
Cars will hit the markets by mid 2011. Production will end possibly early 2013.
How much will it cost?
In Euro there is talk about 10,000 more than the 135i. But I cannot assume the price in North America because it all depends on what the market will be like next year.
When will the Coupe version of the new 1-series platform arrive?
The Coupe and Cabrio models will be launched in 2013. You have not seen a Coupe because it is still too far down the road. The first model of the 1er will be the 5dr hatch then followed by the 3dr Hatch.
Is there a M1 convertible (E88) version in the works? If so how far behind the coupe will it be?
Yes they have plans to introduce a cabrio as well. [It will be introduced a] few months [after the Coupe].
Could the Cabrio version possibly have a fixed rollover bar option that way vert owners could track their cars every once in a while?
I do not think BMW will offer such a feature in a Cabrio.
What kind of engine we might expect N54, N55, twin, single turbo?
The engine is based upon BMW's latest Six Cylinder N55 with Twin-Turbo technology.
Will the coupe have a manual transmission option?
I have seen cars with both manual and M DCT.
How much will it weigh?
3,300 lbs or 1,500 kg Link
How much wider will the 1M/M1 be? Will we finally be able to fit some good wide rubber on there without extensive modification?
The rear and front track are wider so there will be a slight massage at the front and rear to accomodate the changes and give it a visual identity seperating it from the regular Coupe models.
Will it have a LSD?
Yes.
What kind of power figures we might expect?
It will be powerful to justify it's premium over the 135i but not to overstep the M3.
Will the M1 be tuner friendly?
Let us be absolutely clear about this but BMW have no love for the tuning industry primarily because they are usually left with the problem after things go wrong. That is why BMW Performance was brought in to play and why BMW play the void your warranty card. What you have seen so far with BMW performance is nothing compared to what will be coming in the future.
There is one Tuner BMW have a special relationship with and that is Alpina.
Will the M1 have either/or LED Angels or LED taillights?
I do not know for definite but cars I have seen (protoypes and design concepts) utilise the same specification as the 135i with optional xenon lighting.
Will the M1 will have an integrated duck bill spoiler for sure? ..or is this still up in the air?
For visual identity and of course aerodynamics the rear spoiler will be reprofiled in typical BMW M fashion.
Can you shed any light on interior changes? Particularly want to know about seats and dash/instrument cluster.
There will be a notifiable visual identity to distinguish the car's interior from other 1er Coupe models. Not everything is final.
Facts about the M1 from SCOTT26
- The M1 will feature a Personalization Program
- You have your central duct which will allow air a , priority for the High Performance Intercooler. Brake air ducts will provide cooling for the six piston (cermamic?) brake discs , on the bonnet there is an additional two ducts one for cosmetic symmetery the other for air. Two air intakes on the front wings bring the typical M look with the bar that incorporates the side indicator light now placed on top instead of striking through. Link
- Because the rear wings of the car appear more muscular due to the width of the rear track. The designers incorporated the rear vents similar in appearance to what is featured on the X5 and X6 M models to help break up the heaviness of the rear bumper which made the car look too bulky at the rear. Link
Proof that BMW is developing an M1 and not a 135is
- The test mules that have been spotted have an M differential and M3 rear camber arms. Link
- The test mules have visible air ducts in the rear bumper underneath the camouflage. Scott (BMW insider) did originally state that the M1 would have rear air ducts to break some of the heaviness from the bigger rear fenders. Link
KMM:
The problem with the 1 series is that it is simply unattractive. As much as i would like to get one, I can't get over the ugly silhouette.
Kamal
Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder
I don't like the looks of hatchback but do like the coupe with the M pack.
The next gen 1 series F20 is coming out end of next year also.