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    Sep 20, 2010 7:40:35 AM

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    Re: 997 GT2 RS - Official Information & Photos

    Spyderidol:

    My "problem" with this is the color coordination.

    I personally would prefer that yellow , red , black and white not be all mixed together.

    Example: If they are going to use yellow on the break calipers, then why not use yellow accents throughout the car . By mixing all the colors together, Porsche is giving the impression (at least to me) that  all of the trim is an "afterthought". It looks like someone got inebriated near the parts bin and decided to throw on additions that were not really made for the car.1284963401193drunk.gif

    Look at the color coordination in the Ferrari in the background.

     

    Same impressions here Smiley 

    Sep 25, 2010 9:43:20 AM

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    guys, from the other thread about the Nardo test - no-one noticed they weighed the GT2RS ?

     

    Check out its REAL weight - my properly specced GT2 with special wheels and 64l tank is only 5kg heavier Smiley

     

    http://img689.imageshack.us/i/ams2110nardo6.jpg/


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    Sep 25, 2010 10:18:30 AM

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    TB993tt:

    guys, from the other thread about the Nardo test - no-one noticed they weighed the GT2RS ?

     

    Check out its REAL weight - my properly specced GT2 with special wheels and 64l tank is only 5kg heavier Smiley

     

    http://img689.imageshack.us/i/ams2110nardo6.jpg/

     Not sure about the weight specs specified by AMS. I assume a misprint. Please also look at the weight figure of the 458. Does not make much sense either (too low, in this case).

    Sep 25, 2010 12:07:42 PM

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    AMS DID NOT measure weight of test cars in Nardo. Unfortunately, it was not possible. They printed factory figures.

    Sep 25, 2010 12:32:55 PM

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    KresoF1:

    AMS DID NOT measure weight of test cars in Nardo. Unfortunately, it was not possible. They printed factory figures.

     That's an interesting info Smiley Many thanks Smiley

    Sep 25, 2010 1:18:53 PM

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    KresoF1:

    AMS DID NOT measure weight of test cars in Nardo. Unfortunately, it was not possible. They printed factory figures.

    Which "factory figures" give 1445kg Smiley

    Is this the DIN weight + 75kg driver ?


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    Sep 25, 2010 1:23:35 PM

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    TB993tt:
    KresoF1:

    AMS DID NOT measure weight of test cars in Nardo. Unfortunately, it was not possible. They printed factory figures.

    Which "factory figures" give 1445kg Smiley

    Is this the DIN weight + 75kg driver ?


    DIN weight 1370kg + 68kg for driver + 7kg for lagguage = 1445kg EG weight.

    Sep 25, 2010 4:26:08 PM

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    68kg for a driver? Smiley

    Nice DIN spec...


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    Sep 25, 2010 4:26:35 PM

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    Naked perhaps! SmileySmiley


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    Oct 2, 2010 12:33:49 PM

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    From GCF

    Oct 2, 2010 11:58:20 PM

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    BiTurbo:

    From GCF

    993GT2 - 1215kg........ I don't think so Smiley


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    2009 997 GT2 659PS/827NM DIN

    Oct 13, 2010 5:55:23 PM

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    From GCF Smiley

    http://www.germancarforum.com/internal-combustion/35535-scans-autozeitung-porsche-911-gt2-rs-vs-abt-audi-r8-gtr.html

    Porsche 911 GT2 RS

    test weight - 1412kg
    0-100km/h - 3,3s
    0-200km/h - 9,7s (AZ record afaik)
    100-0km/h cold/warm - 31,3m/30,1m (AZ record)
    Contidrom track - 1:33,84 (AZ record)

    ABT Audi R8 GTR (620hp)

    test weight - 1599kg
    0-100km/h - 3,5s
    0-200km/h - 11,1s
    100-0km/h cold/warm - 32,8m/32,5m
    Contidrom track - 1:35,94


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    Oct 13, 2010 7:44:39 PM

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    Smiley


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    Oct 13, 2010 8:14:35 PM

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     Pretty fast car Smiley

    Oct 13, 2010 8:26:16 PM

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    Great car - but the worst distribution and sales job ever Smiley

    The market is now beeing flooded with these cars. Shortly after the first deliveries there are already several cars waiting at the dealer for resale in Germany. Even now prices are just approx. at MSRP. Next spring prices will be substantially below MSRP. And this for a "limited" car.

    There will be a bad wake-up for speculators. At the same time Porsche Germany had no interest in selling cars to serious and well-known GT customers... They rather sold to speculators... With the well known impact on resale prices.

    Oct 13, 2010 8:46:46 PM

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    MKSGR:
    Next spring prices will be substantially below MSRP.


    Alright, I'll get one in spring. Smiley


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    Oct 14, 2010 9:03:22 AM

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    MKSGR:

    Great car - but the worst distribution and sales job ever Smiley

    The market is now beeing flooded with these cars. Shortly after the first deliveries there are already several cars waiting at the dealer for resale in Germany. Even now prices are just approx. at MSRP. Next spring prices will be substantially below MSRP. And this for a "limited" car.

    There will be a bad wake-up for speculators. At the same time Porsche Germany had no interest in selling cars to serious and well-known GT customers... They rather sold to speculators... With the well known impact on resale prices.

    Interesting....

    In the UK the word is there will be 28 cars, C16 RHD UK spec models. The 2009 PCM3 GT2 production run was about the same ~30 cars (OK this was quite a lot to do with the credit crunch timing) so it is hardly a rare GT2 in the UK either


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    Oct 14, 2010 11:24:47 AM

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    The R8 performance seems to be a joke!!!! Lambo LP has 70 less and it´s way faster till 200Kph, let alone the Turbo S.

    J.Seven

    Oct 14, 2010 7:47:29 PM

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    Rossi:
    MKSGR:
    Next spring prices will be substantially below MSRP.


    Alright, I'll get one in spring. Smiley

     That sounds like a smart approach SmileySmiley

    Oct 14, 2010 7:49:50 PM

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    TB993tt:
    MKSGR:

    Great car - but the worst distribution and sales job ever Smiley

    The market is now beeing flooded with these cars. Shortly after the first deliveries there are already several cars waiting at the dealer for resale in Germany. Even now prices are just approx. at MSRP. Next spring prices will be substantially below MSRP. And this for a "limited" car.

    There will be a bad wake-up for speculators. At the same time Porsche Germany had no interest in selling cars to serious and well-known GT customers... They rather sold to speculators... With the well known impact on resale prices.

    Interesting....

    In the UK the word is there will be 28 cars, C16 RHD UK spec models. The 2009 PCM3 GT2 production run was about the same ~30 cars (OK this was quite a lot to do with the credit crunch timing) so it is hardly a rare GT2 in the UK either

     100% agree. My personal estimation for Germany tells me that currently about 20% of all cars delivered to date are already for sale on the grey market again...

    Oct 17, 2010 11:51:13 AM

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    Oct 17, 2010 3:07:54 PM

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     Thanks for the link. As even Röhrl is saying that the tire is the limiting factor on the CGT, are there any news on the Pirelli retrofit that was mentioned earlier?

    Oct 18, 2010 5:44:40 AM

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    Nice vid, thanks for posting!
    I always get a sense of fun and respect when I hear der Walter talk about Porsches...

    "When you really have to be in time, take the GT2 RS"... :P


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    Oct 24, 2010 3:23:55 PM

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    Nov 7, 2010 7:41:42 AM

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    Nov 7, 2010 7:45:47 AM

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    Nov 7, 2010 4:55:26 PM

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    Nice pics, ty

    Nov 8, 2010 7:04:03 AM

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    Thanks for the pics!

    BTW, who says 911's don't have street presence? Seems like evrybody in this picture is looking at it!


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    Nov 8, 2010 3:00:17 PM

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    The all-black one looks insane.

    Nov 15, 2010 6:26:18 AM

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