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Apr 23, 2010 10:27:38 AM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004

458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

May seem incredible, but Quattroruote results are usually verified later by other magazines. 458 is significantly faster than any competitor at any speed. 458 is also faster than Scuderia on Vairano, despite using normal Pilot Sport tires. Smiley

458 Italia test results :

Acceleration :

0-100 3.27s
0-160 6.5s
0-200 9.69s
0-250 16.0s
1/4 mile 11.0s @ 212.8 Kph
1 Km 19.8s @ 269.8 Kph

Top Speed
458: 327.8 Kph

Vairano track :

2. 1.15:146 - 122.64 Kph - Ferrari 458 Italia (Single test, Michelin Pilot Sport)
3. 1.15:159 - 122.62 Kph - Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Single Test)
4. 1.15:375 - 122.27 Kph - Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost)
5. 1.15:528 - 122.07 Kph - Porsche 997 GT2 (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost)
6. 1.15:714 - 121.72 Kph - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost)
7. 1.16:170 - 120.99 Kph - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera (Pirelli PZero Corsa, ALAIN PROST)
8. 1.16:810 - 119.98 Kph - Ferrari 599 GTB (Composite Brakes, 20" Rims, Pirelli Pzero MY06)
9. 1.17:065 - 119.59 Kph - Mercedes SLS AMG (Single Test, Continental ContiSportContact)

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Apr 23, 2010 11:57:53 AM

acrobat: Co-Pilot; Loc: Europe , Hungary; Posts: 250, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2008; Reply to: mv

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

3.3 seconds from an RWD-car is extraterrestial.

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Apr 23, 2010 11:59:24 AM

ffforever: Junior; Loc: australia; Posts: 70, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 10, 2005; Reply to: acrobat

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0-160 in 6.5 is insane!

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Apr 23, 2010 12:21:33 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: ffforever

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

From all that I could experience so far, I can tell you this car feels incredibly quick.

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Apr 23, 2010 1:06:52 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

458 measured weight in 1533kg.

Numbers are excellent and are suggesting that 0-300km/h for 458 is below 30s...

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Apr 23, 2010 1:52:47 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

KresoF1:

458 measured weight in 1533kg.

Numbers are excellent and are suggesting that 0-300km/h for 458 is below 30s...

with SRS?

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Apr 23, 2010 3:26:50 PM

GT-Boy: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 141, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 2, 2004; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Those numbers equal the best numbers ever achieved for the McLaren F1 from tha famous Autocar Magazine Road Test. Even the new Zonda successor with have trouble matching those numbers.

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Apr 23, 2010 3:50:46 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: GT-Boy

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

0-200 kph under 10 seconds and 0-250 in 16 seconds? Wow, Porsche needs to recover a lot of terrain with their future high performance models. Impressive 458 performance figures, indeed.
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Apr 23, 2010 4:12:11 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Turbo4ever:

KresoF1:

458 measured weight in 1533kg.

Numbers are excellent and are suggesting that 0-300km/h for 458 is below 30s...

with SRS?

Official numbers for the 458 are as follows:

1.485 kg in best version, what means SRS and sport wheels
1.515 kg in standard version

EU-driver and luggage add another 75 kg.

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Apr 23, 2010 4:24:11 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

1533kg is measured weight by Quattroruote, ready to drive-without driver. If you ask me it is little bit more then expected-still OK I guess since numbers are impressive(acceleration). That means that average 458 with standard seats and wheels will be in 1540-1550kg area.

Remember the difference in perfomance between two California examples that EVO tested? One, with sporty equipment was faster then fully equiped example(and difference was almost 100kg!). OK, with 458 that much weight difference is not possible. BUT... If you order lifting system, full electric seats and JBL sound system you can be at 1580kg level.

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Apr 23, 2010 4:49:36 PM

xandi911: Senior; Loc: brasil; Posts: 688, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 14, 2006; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

where are the guy that said here in the forum, that he tried his TURBO PDK vs 458 and always was faster than the 458 ?!?!

sorry now i dont know nothing more

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Apr 23, 2010 4:57:50 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: xandi911

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

xandi911:

where are the guy that said here in the forum, that he tried his TURBO PDK vs 458 and always was faster than the 458 ?!?!

sorry now i dont know nothing more

Xandi,

458 that is owned by my Italian friend is new car with 4800kms on clock. When I drove it in all honesty it did not feel that fast to me like Quattroruote numbers suggest. Also, from 120km/h-240km/h on autostrada it wasnt any faster then 997.2 Turbo PDK(with Sport Plus on) that I drove(my friend was in his 458). He later explained to me that he did NOT pushed 458 all the way. So, here is the conclusion-458 IS faster then 997.2 Turbo PDK if you use all revs in 458.

BUT, in real world situation with traffic on autostrada or autobahn my pretty accurate guess is that 458 is not any faster then 997.2 Turbo PDK or 997.2 Turbo S.

Also, there is huge difference is FEEL of acceleration in turbo vs. NA engine sportscars. Turbo engine with similar output always FEELS stronger. At least in my experience...

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Apr 23, 2010 5:16:51 PM

Leblanc: Junior; Loc: Porto , Portugal; Posts: 136, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 4, 2009; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Impressive numbers.

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Apr 23, 2010 5:32:58 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Rossi:

From all that I could experience so far, I can tell you this car feels incredibly quick.

Let us know how you are getting on with it when you get a chance Stefan Smiley

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Apr 23, 2010 5:48:07 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Rossi:

Turbo4ever:

KresoF1:

458 measured weight in 1533kg.

Numbers are excellent and are suggesting that 0-300km/h for 458 is below 30s...

with SRS?

Official numbers for the 458 are as follows:

1.485 kg in best version, what means SRS and sport wheels
1.515 kg in standard version

EU-driver and luggage add another 75 kg.

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Sport wheel rims save another 19KG at the wheel, that's alot but the standard wheel look better.

Did you ordered TIRES TEMPERATURE AND PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM?

How reliable is that now?

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Apr 23, 2010 7:05:17 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: mv

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Not bad Smiley Looking forward to the Supertest.

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Apr 24, 2010 6:37:58 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: MKSGR

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Apr 24, 2010 6:56:25 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Just for comparison: my BMW X5 M needs around 30 seconds from 0-250 kph and this isn't a slow car (not that I tested it myself, I took it from a video).

The 458 is 14 seconds faster from 0-250 kph than my X5 M, this is outstanding.

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Apr 24, 2010 7:57:15 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Hmm, "massa della vettura in prova": 1.633 kg (458) & 1.801 kg (SLS)

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Apr 24, 2010 8:13:42 AM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

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wow... too good to be true, really outstanding result. im glad i ordered racing seats and sport wheels

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Apr 24, 2010 8:14:38 AM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

Rossi:

Hmm, "massa della vettura in prova": 1.633 kg (458) & 1.801 kg (SLS)

They measure weight differently. I guess they add 100kg for driver/luggage or so.

Because 997.2 GT3 weight was 1593kg, whereas the same example in different mag weighed 1493kg.

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Apr 24, 2010 8:55:05 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: mv

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

mv:

Rossi:

Hmm, "massa della vettura in prova": 1.633 kg (458) & 1.801 kg (SLS)

They measure weight differently. I guess they add 100kg for driver/luggage or so.

Because 997.2 GT3 weight was 1593kg, whereas the same example in different mag weighed 1493kg.

exactly,4ruote add more weight for the instrumentation in its tests

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Apr 24, 2010 9:28:11 AM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: andrea

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

This can't be true; the Italians are lying once again! I was assured by the Porschephiles of this forum that Ferraris are slower than Porsches and that German cars rule! Damn those spaghetti munchers...

Please excuse the outbust, I am not trying to pick a new fight (and I am not going to respond either), but I received a lot of stick for stating the obvious fact that Ferraris are almost always quicker than the comparable Porsches.

That 0-200 time is amazing!!!

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Apr 24, 2010 10:10:52 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

REALZEUS:

Please excuse the outbust, I am not trying to pick a new fight (and I am not going to respond either), but I received a lot of stick for stating the obvious fact that Ferraris are almost always quicker than the comparable Porsches.

No wonder. Before the 458, it was never true. Smiley Smiley

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Apr 24, 2010 10:24:40 AM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: RC

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Hmmm... so the fact that the Enzo was FAR quicker than the Carrera GT, the F430 quicker than the 997.1 TT and the Scuderia quicker than the 997 GT2 (and i know that I am going to be disputed about the latter 2 examples but I have proof) was a huge hoax? Ok then... let's not get into it then. Cheers!

Am I the only one who thinks that these cars are way too quick? I mean, can anyone really tell the difference between a car that does 0-200 in 11s and another that takes 9.5s?

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Apr 24, 2010 10:56:11 AM

arakis: Pilot; Loc: Belgrade,Serbia , Serbia and Montenegro; Posts: 302, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2004; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

100-0 deccaliration is more then expected, 36.9m, and I belive ferrari quoted low 32m

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Apr 24, 2010 11:09:21 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

REALZEUS:

Please excuse the outbust, I am not trying to pick a new fight

Very wise of you Smiley The GT Mk2 is just around the corner. If you take a quick look at the test results of the GT3 RS you will get a notion what kind of performance the GT2 Mk2 will deliver Smiley Then again: no chance Ferrari Smiley You see, we are very convinced of our views Smiley

P.S.: Honestly, we know Ferrari's and Porsche's from intense track comparisons. In the end these cars are today all very fast and also quite reliable. The difference is more a matter of taste as the feel of - let's say a Scuderia or 458 - is completly (!) different from the feel of a GT3 or GT2. From an engineering perspective one has to say that Porsche still has leading know-how as GT3 or GT2 would be much (!) quicker if they were available with PDK already. Of course, it is Porsche's fault that PDK is not yet available for the GT models... In the end, Porsche delivers same or better track performance with less engine power and with a gear-box that costs you about 1s per lap compared to hyper fast PDK/F1 technology.

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Apr 24, 2010 11:41:15 AM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

You forgot to mention that Porsche uses R compound semi slick tyres on its GT models though and those sticky tyres amount for much more than 1 sec/lap.

This is not supposed to be a F v P thread though. What do youy reckon about the performance of the 458 MKSGR?

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Apr 24, 2010 11:53:17 AM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Italia test in Quattroruote - incredible results

incredible results really

458 is really a perfect car

I hope 997.2 GT2 will be capable to hold on

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Apr 24, 2010 12:18:30 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: arakis

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arakis:

100-0 deccaliration is more then expected, 36.9m, and I belive ferrari quoted low 32m

QR has probably different approach to this test and their distances are longer than normal.

458 here needed 3m less than SLS, which needed only 33m in german mags. So we might see results around 30m in other magazines.

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