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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    racerx:
    WAY:

    The difference between 4.0 and 5.3s is huge!

     Not behind the wheel it isn't, 5.3 felt much faster.


    I guess that depends on what sort of engine the two car has.  If you have one with massive torque but slower, and one with lower torque but faster, the slower one will feel faster.  But if you have two similar sort of engine characteristics, 4.0s feels much faster behind the wheels!  I have had many different cars in that range and that is my opinion anyway.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Feedback on a first-drive of the McLaren MP4-12C by F1 driver Jenson Button...

    Smiley SmileySmiley 


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    WAY:
    racerx:
    WAY:

    The difference between 4.0 and 5.3s is huge!

     Not behind the wheel it isn't, 5.3 felt much faster.


    I guess that depends on what sort of engine the two car has.  If you have one with massive torque but slower, and one with lower torque but faster, the slower one will feel faster.  But if you have two similar sort of engine characteristics, 4.0s feels much faster behind the wheels!  I have had many different cars in that range and that is my opinion anyway.

     

    I would agree with that.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    racerx:
    william:

    What's the difference between their brake steer and a normal yaw control system? 

     

    Read up about the weissach axle and passive rear steering.

     

    Weissach axle is really just a variant of the semi-trailing arm suspension with less over-steer tendency than the semi-trailing. The inherit flaw of the semi-trailing arm is that it toe-out during corners which induce unexpected oversteer. The Weissach axle can introduce more toe-in at limit. Older porsche like the 930 and M coupe has the s.t. suspension.

    I am not so sure the 12C's brake steer system has anything to do with the rather primitive geometry system. Base on the press article, the brake steer seem to be more a sophisticated yaw control system which base on information of your steering angle, slip angle and speed to intelligent brake the rear wheel to eliminate understeer.


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Feedback on a first-drive of the McLaren MP4-12C by F1 driver Jenson Button...

     

    Smiley SmileySmiley 


    BTW, car on the wall behind Jenson features optional wheels.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    william:

    I am not so sure the 12C's brake steer system has anything to do with the rather primitive geometry system. Base on the press article, the brake steer seem to be more a sophisticated yaw control system which base on information of your steering angle, slip angle and speed to intelligent brake the rear wheel to eliminate understeer.


    I think it's the same as the 997 Turbo's Vector option...


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    WAY:

    I am the only one who thinks it looks good in white?

     Maybe if they didn't paint the bottom part of the front white too, if it were black like in the normal cars then it would look good.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Grant:
    william:

    I am not so sure the 12C's brake steer system has anything to do with the rather primitive geometry system. Base on the press article, the brake steer seem to be more a sophisticated yaw control system which base on information of your steering angle, slip angle and speed to intelligent brake the rear wheel to eliminate understeer.


    I think it's the same as the 997 Turbo's Vector option...

     

    Thanks, I didn't realize Turbo has the torque vectoring option until now. 


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    KresoF1:
    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Feedback on a first-drive of the McLaren MP4-12C by F1 driver Jenson Button...

     

    Smiley SmileySmiley 


    BTW, car on the wall behind Jenson features optional wheels.


    ... which look worse than the standard ones. Smiley
     


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Hmm... Need to see more pics of optional wheels to decide. BTW, I will have more info about colors and options soon...

    Audio system is from Meridian and it is the lightest audio system designed for sportscar on the market.


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Oh boy, oh boy Smiley

     

    I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...I need to resist temptation...

     

    I need to wait a couple more years...

    I like the red one so much... I like it more than 458...Smiley FOCUS!

    Smiley


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    KresoF1:

     

    At 2:53 "it's got aluminium wire". IMHO Smiley No longer legal here for domestic use, not used in aviation.

    But then, I guess that some folks much smarter than me have thought this out, but... Al is very brittle and has a huge propensity to corrode Smiley


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    - McLaren Automotive Press Release -

    1270028407207McLaren-Automotive_logo.jpg

    McLaren MP4-12C Car Configurator and additional exciting new content is launched on the McLaren Automotive Website...

    We are delighted to announce the launch of three brand new areas on our website: the MP4-12C Car Configurator, Pure McLaren and McLaren Inside Out.

    The MP4-12C Car Configurator is an interactive way for you to familiarise yourself further with the MP4-12C and the options available.  Not only do you have the opportunity to specify your own individual car, but you can also see how it compares to other very special pre-configured MP4-12Cs.

    Pricing details will be available directly from dealers at a later date.

    Pure McLaren is a chance to read more about the origins of the MP4-12C.  You can delve into the MP4-12C's racing genes and learn more about the pioneering technologies which make the MP4-12C so unique. Pure McLaren also gives insight into the sheer passion which drives the team behind the creation of this amazing high performance car.

    McLaren Inside Out is the place to keep up to date on the latest news from McLaren Automotive and the development of the MP4-12C.

    McLaren-MP4-12C_Car-Configurator.jpg

    To check out these new areas and the rest of the McLaren Automotive website please access via the following link:

    McLaren-MP4-12C_Car-Configurator

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    This is a fantastic configurator, so much better than the one at Porsche and I don't even want to speak of the one at Ferrari. Smiley


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Yes, a fantastic configurator. Choice of options is just amazing-here McLaren combined Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Audi R8 option choices and offered truly amazing things.

    Few extra info:

    -optional Ceramics are 395mm fronts and 380mm rears

    -price list soon!

    Oh, I like MP4-12C very, very much indeed...


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    had some fun with it, rather play with a One-77 configurator, but this looks ok

    mclaren b1.jpg

    mclaren b2.jpg

     

    mclaren b3.jpg

     

    mclaren b4.jpg

     

    mclaren b5.jpg

     

    mclaren b6.jpg


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... Smiley


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Pentium:

    I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... I need to resist the temptation... Smiley

     Smiley


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

     I'd have it in any of these 2 combos:

    or:


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    McLaren MP4-12C car configurator...

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    McLaren MP4-12C car configurator...

     

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Hmm, my birthday is also in January... Smiley


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    I just found that video on the net, I could'nt resist posting it here...

    I hope you like it ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAOLSh2Xpw


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Lord_Driftalot:

    I just found that video on the net, I could'nt resist posting it here...

    I hope you like it ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAOLSh2Xpw

     Uh Pentium is going to like that. That engine does sound terrific, i'd love to drive one.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Did you embraced the dark side Enmanuel? Smiley Stop teasing me!

    The force is strong with me Smiley I WILL RESIST!


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Pentium:

    Did you embraced the dark side Enmanuel? Smiley Stop teasing me!

    The force is strong with me Smiley I WILL RESIST!

     are you kidding i'm having way too much fun with this. Smiley


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

     

    BTW, for those who are interested front tires on MP4-12C are 235/35-19 and rears are 305/30-20.


    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Can't help myself, but in these pics and particularly in this colour the car doesn't look good.


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    Re: McLaren MP4-12C supercar: official press release...

    Rossi:

    Can't help myself, but in these pics and particularly in this colour the car doesn't look good.

    The car doesn't look, full stop! It lacks good proportions which for many people is the essence of beauty.

    McLaren's decision to put all the radiators at the back spoiled the design. I don't know if there was a significant technical merit in choosing this configuration. I don't know also why someone would choose this car over a Ferrari.  McLaren are a big name in F1 but their road car business amounts to 2 1/2 cars in 30 years.


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