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Mar 3, 2010 12:53:07 AM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

Nice videos... all makers should release these simple videos to let people better understand the car's looks and sound. Interesting to see how much lean the old Quattro shows compared to the much flatter-cornering RS5. And the "parking garage/tunnel" start-up at the end of the driving video is great!

My only slight disappointment, and its probably too early to tell, but to me it sounds like the S-Tronic shifts in a very slurred way, almost like a conventional torque converter auto ( but same as most VW DSG I have tried). For the RS5 I expected something that was pushed a bit more towards the harder-shifting style of some of the most sporting dual clutch systems.... perhaps the shift programming options can give you some control of shift style like DKG. We all need to wait till non-Audi staff can drive the car to find out these details.

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Mar 3, 2010 7:28:46 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: 4trac

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

Programing of S Tronic in RS5 is pretty similar to PDK in 997.2 models. There are 3 manual and 3 auto programms which can be selected via Audi Drive Select. Also there is an option to use sport shifting speed, sport throttle response and comfortable dampers, you can programm your favourite setup via Drive select.

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Mar 3, 2010 10:51:19 AM

derder: Senior; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 593, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 4, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

It sounds a bit whimpy compared to my C63

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Mar 3, 2010 12:51:33 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: derder

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

So, keep your C63 and enjoy torque converter...

German price list:

http://www.darkhouse.de/temp/Preisliste_Audi_RS5.pdf

Be very fast-limited download!

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Mar 3, 2010 12:52:11 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: derder

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

derder:

It sounds a bit whimpy compared to my C63

Actually just about everything does Lother! It's hard for us C63 owners as that has set a new benchmark in our heads on how V8s should sound. I could only dream that my X5M sounded the same!

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Mar 3, 2010 1:12:03 PM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

how will RS 5 compete to C63 with neww 55T motor?

this is the main point I am trying to understand

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Mar 3, 2010 1:16:16 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: artur777

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

artur777:

how will RS 5 compete to C63 with neww 55T motor?

this is the main point I am trying to understand

In a straightline, even the old 6.2 V8 C63 will trump a RS5 everytime. However dynamically, it looks like RS5 is at a different level.

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Mar 3, 2010 1:18:31 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: WAY

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

Mercedes launched first numbers for the new 5.5 twin-turbo engine, by the way. The S-class will feature 555 hp and 800 Nm torque resp. 571 hp and 900 Nm with powerkit. Acc. number for the base version is 4.6 sec to 0 - 100 kph.

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Mar 3, 2010 1:19:50 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: Ferdie

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Ferdie:

Mercedes launched first numbers for the new 5.5 twin-turbo engine, by the way. The S-class will feature 555 hp and 800 Nm torque resp. 571 hp and 900 Nm with powerkit. Acc. number for the base version is 4.6 sec to 0 - 100 kph.

That much power and torque is stupid without AWD imho.

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Mar 3, 2010 4:05:33 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: WAY

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

WAY:

Ferdie:

Mercedes launched first numbers for the new 5.5 twin-turbo engine, by the way. The S-class will feature 555 hp and 800 Nm torque resp. 571 hp and 900 Nm with powerkit. Acc. number for the base version is 4.6 sec to 0 - 100 kph.

That much power and torque is stupid without AWD imho.

maybe we will see an awd version too with that monster engine

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Mar 4, 2010 3:46:18 AM

Drewes: Newbie; Loc: ventura, Ca; Posts: 24, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 21, 2006; Reply to: Grant

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These are good points, its just disappointing because torque is what throws you back in the seat. The new M5 will likely be very impressive due to the rumored forced induction.

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Mar 4, 2010 3:10:23 PM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: WAY

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WAY:

Ferdie:

Mercedes launched first numbers for the new 5.5 twin-turbo engine, by the way. The S-class will feature 555 hp and 800 Nm torque resp. 571 hp and 900 Nm with powerkit. Acc. number for the base version is 4.6 sec to 0 - 100 kph.

That much power and torque is stupid without AWD imho.

Ferrari, Aston Martin, Porsche, BMW M, Mercedes AMG et. al beg to differ.

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Mar 5, 2010 12:43:29 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: REALZEUS

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Realzeus, I don't recall too many RWD cars from those brands with 570hp and 900nm of torque though! 900nm of torque is pointless unless you can get it to the ground effeciently.

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Mar 5, 2010 6:31:12 PM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: WAY

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You are right... most of these brands have more than 570Hp... so do F1 cars. The fastest configuration for good, dry tarmac is RWD. AWD is only good in poor conditions.

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Mar 5, 2010 6:46:05 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

The new RS5 is indeed a very nice car but I would have loved to see the RS6 engine in this baby.

Btw: in my opinion, the best bang for buck delivers the Audi TT RS right now. Some new dealer RS showcars go for aprox. 55000 EUR incl. 19% german VAT.

Very good performance for "little" money and definetely an alternative to the Cayman S.

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Mar 5, 2010 8:29:44 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Btw: in my opinion, the best bang for buck delivers the Audi TT RS right now. Some new dealer RS showcars go for aprox. 55000 EUR incl. 19% german VAT.

Only with manual gearbox Smiley

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Mar 6, 2010 8:01:16 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: reginos

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reginos:

RC:

Btw: in my opinion, the best bang for buck delivers the Audi TT RS right now. Some new dealer RS showcars go for aprox. 55000 EUR incl. 19% german VAT.

Only with manual gearbox

From July 2010 FL TTRS will get 7Speed S tronic for transversal engine layout.

More info tonight upon my return from Geneva.

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Mar 6, 2010 8:33:00 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

KresoF1:

reginos:

RC:

Btw: in my opinion, the best bang for buck delivers the Audi TT RS right now. Some new dealer RS showcars go for aprox. 55000 EUR incl. 19% german VAT.

Only with manual gearbox

From July 2010 FL TTRS will get 7Speed S tronic for transversal engine layout.

More info tonight upon my return from Geneva.

very good development

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Mar 6, 2010 1:11:58 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

2010 Audi RS5: "The Quattro Principle..."

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Mar 6, 2010 2:58:55 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: reginos

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reginos:

very good development

Even with manual, the TT RS is great. I drove one a couple of weeks ago for an hour and I was deeply impressed with that car. Very good performer for little money.

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Mar 6, 2010 3:02:12 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: RC

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RC:

reginos:

very good development

Even with manual, the TT RS is great. I drove one a couple of weeks ago for an hour and I was deeply impressed with that car. Very good performer for little money.

A good friend of mine traded his M3 sedan in for one, modified it with DMS tune and Haldex controller, then sold it all within 2 months! He said the car is fast but very dead, so he has bought a M3 Edition.

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Mar 6, 2010 3:21:07 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: WAY

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Very "dead" ? It is fantastic to drive but of course it doesn't sound like the M3. I still would prefer it over the M3 for various reasons.

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Mar 6, 2010 3:30:02 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: RC

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Dead as in the steering isn't lively. Very fast car though!

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Mar 6, 2010 6:19:24 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: WAY

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

Wayne,

TT RS is faster on the Ring then current M3-that is the fact. Do not forget that Sport Auto TT RS time is 8.09min with standard tires and M3 Coupe achieved 8.05min with CUP+ tires. TT RS dead in steering feel? Hmm.... Not sure why but M3 fans claim that this car has better steering feel then 997.1 Turbo for example. Ask Christian about it... He will LOL...

To confirm-TT RS will get S tronic with minor facelift in July 2010.

Back OT.

Just get back from Geneva-totally tired since it was a flight to Geneva in small business jet, visit to show and flight back.

RS5 is excellent looking car in person. I personally am not the biggest fan of Misano Red Pearleffect color of the show car or polished wheels on it. Otherwise car is great.

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Mar 6, 2010 7:12:25 PM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: KresoF1

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Kreso really dislikes red...

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Mar 6, 2010 9:29:47 PM

Wonderbar: Rennteam Pro; Loc: usa , France; Posts: 2719, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 31, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Audi RS5 in Geneva

Spent lots of time at Geneva, trying to like this car. Just couldn't get excited, and also don't like the red. Car looks better in pictures than in the flesh. Now the R8 Spyder, in bronze/gold nearby, was fantastic!

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Mar 7, 2010 2:54:41 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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KresoF1:
Wayne,

TT RS is faster on the Ring then current M3-that is the fact. Do not forget that Sport Auto TT RS time is 8.09min with standard tires and M3 Coupe achieved 8.05min with CUP+ tires. TT RS dead in steering feel? Hmm.... Not sure why but M3 fans claim that this car has better steering feel then 997.1 Turbo for example. Ask Christian about it... He will LOL...

To confirm-TT RS will get S tronic with minor facelift in July 2010.

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Just get back from Geneva-totally tired since it was a flight to Geneva in small business jet, visit to show and flight back.

RS5 is excellent looking car in person. I personally am not the biggest fan of Misano Red Pearleffect color of the show car or polished wheels on it. Otherwise car is great.

yes no doubt, the TT RS is a very fast car. But fact remains that my friend voted with his wallet, and losing tens of thousands of dollars along the way for trying the TT RS in between the two M3s. I have driven his TT RS, and I have to agree with him that the steering isn't tactile like the M3, but then again no AWD car will ever be as good as a good RWD set up when it comes to the steering feel. Also, because he isn't a tracker, prefering the mountain roads near where he lives over tracks, the feel is much more important than the actual speed. Like all AWD performance car, the TT grips so hard exiting the corners that it makes it less exciting, whereas you have to be much more precise in your throttle application in the M3. All factors that make the TTRS a less involving car than a M3. If it's me though, I would have kept the TT RS. Then maybe upgrading to the RS5 when it comes.

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Mar 7, 2010 3:05:05 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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Kreso, yes no doubt, the TT RS is a very fast car. But fact remains that my friend voted with his wallet, and losing tens of thousands of dollars along the way for trying the TT RS in between the two M3s. I have driven his TT RS, and I have to agree with him that the steering isn't tactile like the M3, but then again no AWD car will ever be as good as a good RWD set up when it comes to the steering feel. Also, because he isn't a tracker, prefering the mountain roads near where he lives over tracks, the feel is much more important than the actual speed. Like all AWD performance car, the TT grips so hard exiting the corners that it makes it less exciting, whereas you have to be much more precise in your throttle application in the M3. All factors that make the TTRS a less involving car than a M3. If it's me though, I would have kept the TT RS. Then maybe upgrading to the RS5 when it comes.

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Mar 7, 2010 9:12:44 PM

pride355: Rennteam Pro; Loc: iSTANBUL , Turkey; Posts: 2475, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 28, 2005; Reply to: WAY

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WAY:
yes no doubt, the TT RS is a very fast car. But fact remains that my friend voted with his wallet, and losing tens of thousands of dollars along the way for trying the TT RS in between the two M3s. I have driven his TT RS, and I have to agree with him that the steering isn't tactile like the M3, but then again no AWD car will ever be as good as a good RWD set up when it comes to the steering feel. Also, because he isn't a tracker, prefering the mountain roads near where he lives over tracks, the feel is much more important than the actual speed. Like all AWD performance car, the TT grips so hard exiting the corners that it makes it less exciting, whereas you have to be much more precise in your throttle application in the M3. All factors that make the TTRS a less involving car than a M3. If it's me though, I would have kept the TT RS. Then maybe upgrading to the RS5 when it comes.

WAY,

I have a TTS; not TT-RS; but I agree with him. TTS/ TT-RS are capable cars, but not as exciting and as special as M3

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Mar 7, 2010 9:52:34 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: pride355

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pride355:

reginos:

Very classy job from Audi

IMO the bucket seats (front and rear) as pictured above are a bit extreme for this car. I would go for normal seats.

Bucket seats are great; I have them in my TTS and very very happy to go wth them

Not up to speed on Audi, so I take it the bucket seats in the red RS5 above are an option....

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