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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Some new pics: part of the front and side view, steering wheel and rear again. Smiley
    (c) www.czechferrari.cz


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    Heard pretty reliable info about gearbox-F1 Superfast, NOT DCT. True or not? We will see...

     

    BUT, if we look how reliable M-DKG(especially), S Tronic and PDK are... Then F1 Superfast sound like truthfull scenario.

     

    Current DCTs are not ready for prime time IMHO. Why? That needs another thread IMO...


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    KresoF1:

    Current DCTs are not ready for prime time IMHO. Why? That needs another thread IMO...


    Start it, Kreso.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
     


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    Kreso I already had a wonderful day (won a court case, had quality time with my significant other) and you try your best to make it even better! Cheers mate! 


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     listening to the vid i watched two pages back, and especially at 1.48" i am sure its a dct... unfortunatly...   :(


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    KresoF1:

    Heard pretty reliable info about gearbox-F1 Superfast, NOT DCT. True or not? We will see...

     

    BUT, if we look how reliable M-DKG(especially), S Tronic and PDK are... Then F1 Superfast sound like truthfull scenario.

     

    Current DCTs are not ready for prime time IMHO. Why? That needs another thread IMO...

    Kreso, I got the info that will have DCT 7-speed for sure


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Interesting article on the car www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/240841/#


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     Interesting, no Turbo and may not be introduced in September. Though they claim styling tweaks, I am suspicious that the CA GT needs more time to be marketed and the 450 would take the lime light of it. Also, it really pisses me off that the Spider is going to be delayed until 2011 at the earliest to allow more time for the CA GT to sell.


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    Does a F450 spider even makes sense?

    Would be like a convertible GT3.

    I would skip it if I was Ferrari and veer them towards the CA GT.


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    SciFrog:

    Does a F450 spider even makes sense?

    Would be like a convertible GT3.

    I would skip it if I was Ferrari and veer them towards the CA GT.


    That would simply veer a lot of buyers to the LP560-4 Spyder Smiley. Ferrari knows there is a huge market for their mid engined V8 spyders and will not be so foolish. If any car was akin to a convertible GT3 it would be the Scuderia 16M.


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    A 599 convetible would make more sense than a F450 convertible...


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    And they will probably build both.


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    They need to make a spider. The current car sells in significant numbers for Ferrari and many buyers probably wouldn't switch to a coupe. The F430 spider is a superb car and great for a long distance road trip.


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    Yes its a no brainer, there will be a spider. Is it spyder or spider? I've seen both spellings but which does Ferrari use?


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    trip:

    Yes its a no brainer, there will be a spider. Is it spyder or spider? I've seen both spellings but which does Ferrari use?

    Spyder is used for Maserati

    Spider for Ferrari


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    trip:

    And they will probably build both.

    exactly


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    As long as there will be demand for a midengined Spider, Ferrari will build one. Smiley

    There was a rumour couple of months ago, that the forthcoming Spider could as well be a GTS-style Targa with a new foldable segmented hard top. Anybody remember? 


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    andrea:
    trip:

    Yes its a no brainer, there will be a spider. Is it spyder or spider? I've seen both spellings but which does Ferrari use?

    Spyder is used for Maserati

    Spider for Ferrari


    Spyder for Porsche too...


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Rossi:

    As long as there will be demand for a midengined Spider, Ferrari will build one. Smiley

    There was a rumour couple of months ago, that the forthcoming Spider could as well be a GTS-style Targa with a new foldable segmented hard top. Anybody remember? 


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     I doubt a retractable hard top is in the cards. Weight is an issue and the CA Gt already has one. Are you thinking of a removable hard top like the one on the CGT?


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    nberry:
    Rossi:

    As long as there will be demand for a midengined Spider, Ferrari will build one. Smiley

    There was a rumour couple of months ago, that the forthcoming Spider could as well be a GTS-style Targa with a new foldable segmented hard top. Anybody remember? 


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     I doubt a retractable hard top is in the cards. Weight is an issue and the CA Gt already has one. Are you thinking of a removable hard top like the one on the CGT?


    No Nick, I have something in mind like a segmented hardtop, that was approximately as big as the hardtop of the CGT or 355 GTS for example. But the single segments fold above each other behind the passenger compartment.

    Hope I could make myself clear. Smiley
     


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    Now I understand. I was not aware that was in consideration. But it would make sense because weight would not be as much as an issue. However, stylistically I am not sure how that would look with the anticipated configuration of the 450 i.e a more rakish look. 


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    nberry:

     Interesting, no Turbo and may not be introduced in September. Though they claim styling tweaks, I am suspicious that the CA GT needs more time to be marketed and the 450 would take the lime light of it. Also, it really pisses me off that the Spider is going to be delayed until 2011 at the earliest to allow more time for the CA GT to sell.

     

     

    Wow, that puts it back some then.

    If it's "revealed" in December it could be late Spring/Early Summer before launch.

     


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    Not sure I like the sound of this, could be nothing but.........

    "The supercar was scheduled for an unveiling on 9 September, and its engineering was finished some time ago. But sources say the Pininfarina styling had to be adjusted for aerodynamic reasons and that Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo ordered tweaks as late as last month."

     


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    STRADALE:

    Not sure I like the sound of this, could be nothing but.........

    "The supercar was scheduled for an unveiling on 9 September, and its engineering was finished some time ago. But sources say the Pininfarina styling had to be adjusted for aerodynamic reasons and that Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo ordered tweaks as late as last month."

     

     even a small change could set the car back some time to reach production.


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    Enmanuel:
    STRADALE:

    Not sure I like the sound of this, could be nothing but.........

    "The supercar was scheduled for an unveiling on 9 September, and its engineering was finished some time ago. But sources say the Pininfarina styling had to be adjusted for aerodynamic reasons and that Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo ordered tweaks as late as last month."

     

     even a small change could set the car back some time to reach production.

    Agreed - having worked in Product Development and Design before, even a small change can push the whole product release schedule back by months because of tooling, materials, and line test lead times.

     


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    New round from czechferrari.cz. We're getting closer... Smiley

    Nice side view:

    Some like it red:

    Pics of the rear (note that the air intake in front of the wheel is missing):

    Front, still unfinished:


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     The only thing that worries me is that the windscreen looks much too vertical or upright.  But I don't know, maybe it will look different when looking at a complete car.


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    I actually like the way it looks, hopefully it will give the F450 Porsche-like visibility.


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     i'm actually starting to like the lines. the side view looks very promising, much better than i anticipated.


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Dear lord, I'm trying but I still haven't warmed up to this design.

    Now that I get a clear view of the profile, the green house is much too large and upright in my opinion.

    I see they're doing the "flying C-pillar" thing from the 599 but the styling execution here doesn't look as nice.

    I dunno. I think Ferrari may have a styling stinker here. What's going on lately?! Enzo, 612 Scag, California ... all were not loved in the styling department.


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