Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
997 Carrera S was a tad faster than R8 4.2 and as numbers suggest 997.2 Carrera S with PDK is faster for sure but I didn't expect that of a difference.
Even this performance differance alone proves that the price of the R8 over an 911 Carrera S is ridicolous. Even if I like R8 and prefer it to my ex 997 Carrera S, 20% more money for R8 is unbelieveable.
In the end it is the slower car and it is an Audi.
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
May 13, 2009 3:39:29 PM
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I was very surprised by the large gap that opened up by the end of the video. 
Porsche is cheaper, faster and has more prestige. One would have to really like the look of the R8 or have a strong preference for its mid-engine layout to justify choosing it over a Porsche IMHO.
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easy_rider911:
I was very surprised by the large gap that opened up by the end of the video.
Porsche is cheaper, faster and has more prestige. One would have to really like the look of the R8 or have a strong preference for its mid-engine layout to justify choosing it over a Porsche IMHO.
Easy,
You have put it very nicely what I was trying to say 
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May 13, 2009 5:56:45 PM
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easy_rider911:
I was very surprised by the large gap that opened up by the end of the video.
Porsche is cheaper, faster and has more prestige. One would have to really like the look of the R8 or have a strong preference for its mid-engine layout to justify choosing it over a Porsche IMHO.
Up until yesterday I'd probably have agreed with you 
but after having my R8 delivered and taking it out for a good long drive last night I can honestly say Kreso was/is spot on about this car. It's brilliant.
I've owned a 997 C2 tip, 997 C2S and 997 turbo and I can honestly say I prefer this car to all of them... even the turbo 
The noise, power delivery, 8000 RPM redline, manual gearbox, build quality, ride comfort and cabin design are all superb. You just need to get it in a suitable colour for it all to make sense 
May 14, 2009 3:02:18 PM
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
Lars, I use the PDK every day and have had none of the problems you encountered! Perhaps it is because it was not your regular car and you had no familiarity
Anyway as from 02/10 a +/- paddle shifter will become an option.
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
I am surprised by this massive advantage the 997s has over the R8
This looks like 50-80hp more (in the same car). AWD, the gear-box, the higher weight and (in the higher speed-range) aerodynamics add up to a massive disadvantage. Quite a surprise to see it that clearly.
Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
reginos:
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
Lars, I use the PDK every day and have had none of the problems you encountered! Perhaps it is because it was not your regular car and you had no familiarityAnyway as from 02/10 a +/- paddle shifter will become an option.
Hi Reginos,
Im used to the paddles since couple of years. Had a M3, F430 and even today the 535 and Mini S have paddles. All in the other directions. And yes - you are probably right, it was a test weekend and I have to tell you, that the first day sucked that much that I didnt use it anymore in the second day and only drove automatic from them on.
I guess, if I would own such a car I would somehow get used to it. And of course - the PDK is such great that simply this tranny gives reason enough for an car-upgrade. For me its a must have in the next one and if they make the paddles with the "other" directions available even better!
Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
Lars997:
reginos:
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
Lars, I use the PDK every day and have had none of the problems you encountered! Perhaps it is because it was not your regular car and you had no familiarityAnyway as from 02/10 a +/- paddle shifter will become an option.
Hi Reginos,
Im used to the paddles since couple of years. Had a M3, F430 and even today the 535 and Mini S have paddles. All in the other directions. And yes - you are probably right, it was a test weekend and I have to tell you, that the first day sucked that much that I didnt use it anymore in the second day and only drove automatic from them on.
I guess, if I would own such a car I would somehow get used to it. And of course - the PDK is such great that simply this tranny gives reason enough for an car-upgrade. For me its a must have in the next one and if they make the paddles with the "other" directions available even better!
I think the paddles on the optional sport wheel as from Febr. 2010 will be right +, left -, so they should be OK for most people.
The direction of the stick, we don't know. But probably it will still be push for up and pull for down. I noticed that VW uses the same direction too.
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
I think the paddles on the optional sport wheel as from Febr. 2010 will be right +, left -, so they should be OK for most people.
The direction of the stick, we don't know. But probably it will still be push for up and pull for down. I noticed that VW uses the same direction too.
And same for the S-Tronic box in Audi.
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Re: Audi R8 R-Tronic vs Porsche 997 Carrera 2 S PDK
Lars997:
The PDK is indeed great but the paddle-directions sucks. Had the car last weekend, the speed of the PDK is obsolet as before pressing the shift button I have to think 5 seconds in which direction I have to press the shift-button. So - as fast as the shift-timing is, as much time I lose while using this system!
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