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    Apr 22, 2009 8:36:29 PM

    reginos
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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    andrea:
    reginos:

    Ferrari do not have to worry about emissions and CO2. No real EU directive restrictions or penalties for manufacturers below 10K units per annum.

    Silly to do a turbo engine then. If anything they would have done it on the California which is the softer model and not on the pure sports model.

     

    I read an interview to Durnheimer where he said no restrictions under 300k units....so the limit is 10k or 300k?

    I already posted some time ago the info about f142... :)

    Under 10K practically no restriction. Ferrari, Maserati,RR, Aston etc

    10K-300K units i.e. Porsche group they must reduce the fleet average CO2 as at the end of 2007 or 2008(not sure which year) by 25% by 2012. That is in this group they don't have to achieve the 130 grams/km that is the target for the rest of the manufacturers. This is a relief because 130g/km wouldn'tbe achievable by Porsche.

     


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    Apr 22, 2009 10:20:30 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    andrea:
    reginos:

    Ferrari do not have to worry about emissions and CO2. No real EU directive restrictions or penalties for manufacturers below 10K units per annum.

    Silly to do a turbo engine then. If anything they would have done it on the California which is the softer model and not on the pure sports model.

     

    I read an interview to Durnheimer where he said no restrictions under 300k units....so the limit is 10k or 300k?

    I already posted some time ago the info about f142... :)

     

    I would be disappointed if the 450 looked very similar to the 430 with CA GT headlights and 599 tail lights. it would be nothing more than a mishmash of prior models which Porsche has been doing for years.

    Not something I would desire regardless of how it looks. The 450 need to be totally different than all other Ferrari models. At this time I am asking myself based on what I am hearing about the replacement, I WAITED FIVE YEARS FOR THIS!!!!Smiley

     


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    Apr 23, 2009 2:11:24 AM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    reginos:

    Ferrari do not have to worry about emissions and CO2. No real EU directive restrictions or penalties for manufacturers below 10K units per annum.

    Silly to do a turbo engine then. If anything they would have done it on the California which is the softer model and not on the pure sports model.

     

    well maybe the reason why F is so concerned about CO2 is because they are actually planning to make more than 10K cars a year. The california was a clear sign of wanting to expand their market, the question now is how much will they expand?

    Apr 23, 2009 1:58:34 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    reginos:
    andrea:
    reginos:

    Ferrari do not have to worry about emissions and CO2. No real EU directive restrictions or penalties for manufacturers below 10K units per annum.

    Silly to do a turbo engine then. If anything they would have done it on the California which is the softer model and not on the pure sports model.

     

    I read an interview to Durnheimer where he said no restrictions under 300k units....so the limit is 10k or 300k?

    I already posted some time ago the info about f142... :)

    Under 10K practically no restriction. Ferrari, Maserati,RR, Aston etc

    10K-300K units i.e. Porsche group they must reduce the fleet average CO2 as at the end of 2007 or 2008(not sure which year) by 25% by 2012. That is in this group they don't have to achieve the 130 grams/km that is the target for the rest of the manufacturers. This is a relief because 130g/km wouldn'tbe achievable by Porsche.

     

    Thanks!


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    Apr 25, 2009 11:04:06 AM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Taken from Italian car mag "Auto". Smiley

    These PS incorporates some styling elements first shown in the spy pics of the black mule.

    1240657355565F450-1.jpg1240657364412F450-2.jpg


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    Apr 25, 2009 3:22:09 PM

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    Nice. I like it.

    It looks better than the 430, but not as good as the 360. But I'm comfortable with it.


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    Apr 25, 2009 3:26:09 PM

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    No surprises.

    Those who like the look of recent mid-engined Ferraris will like that one too.


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    Apr 25, 2009 4:02:38 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Rossi:

    Taken from Italian car mag "Auto". Smiley

    These PS incorporates some styling elements first shown in the spy pics of the black mule.

    1240657355565F450-1.jpg1240657364412F450-2.jpg


    Hmm... Still not impressed... And where will front licence plate go? I hate Ferrari because of that-in most EU markets front licence plate in full size is mandetory...

    Apr 25, 2009 4:17:40 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     The front end can't be right. I am fairly confident the front lights will curve toward the center like the CA GT. That tends to narrow the front end as oppose to what is show in these pictures. The back end looks good and could be accurate.

    The side silhouette still reminds of the 360-430. 


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    Apr 27, 2009 10:29:54 AM

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    *cough*Lambo rip-off*cough*


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    Apr 27, 2009 12:12:49 PM

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     No, Lambos look good, this monster doesn't!

    Apr 27, 2009 6:43:48 PM

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    denn:

     No, Lambos look good, this monster doesn't!

    +1

    Apr 27, 2009 10:24:15 PM

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    I could live with that back and the front of that first spyshot based photoshop!


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    Apr 28, 2009 11:33:47 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Ferrari-F450-1.jpg


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    Apr 29, 2009 1:22:49 AM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

     God I hope this not it. If it is, I am otta of here.

    It looks like the Scud. with minor changes to the headlights and rear lights. it took them five years to put this together?


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    Apr 29, 2009 3:21:40 AM

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    Kinda reminds me of a Cayman.


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    Apr 29, 2009 4:41:26 AM

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     i very much hope that is not it.  

    Apr 29, 2009 4:52:26 AM

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    I like it.


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    Apr 29, 2009 7:01:37 AM

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    that's a 360 and a 430 thrown in a tumbler.....


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    Apr 29, 2009 11:14:55 AM

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    intouch1:

    that's a 360 and a 430 thrown in a tumbler.....

     

    I agree, but its just a magazine artists guess. Hope it wont look this bland

    Apr 29, 2009 12:41:55 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Rossi:

    Taken from Italian car mag "Auto". Smiley

    These PS incorporates some styling elements first shown in the spy pics of the black mule.

    1240657355565F450-1.jpg1240657364412F450-2.jpg


    To me this looks promising. However I think the artist forgot about engine cooling...
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    Apr 29, 2009 2:15:18 PM

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    Yuck! Turbo engines may be easier to cool Smiley


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    Apr 29, 2009 2:41:51 PM

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    Too much fish cues in the Cali-inspired design. The other impression is pleasing although it needs some slight modifications.

    Apr 29, 2009 5:20:43 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Mule video.

    F450mule.flv

     


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    Apr 29, 2009 7:08:50 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    pentium

    could not open your vid for some reason.  here is the link

    http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090429.006/new-ferrari-f450-mule-spy-video

    Apr 29, 2009 7:10:06 PM

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    I think what is missing from all these photoshops is the one real feature that will set this model off  visually from it's 360/430 prev generation : the actual shape of the canopy , i.e, windshield shape/rake , side window shape , the side graphic ( shape ) of the arcing roofline and how it settles  into the rear haunches when viewed from behind.

     

    It's the one distinguishing feature of each new Ferrari mid V8 generation ( 308/328) / (348/355) / (360/430) , as opposed to Porsche 911 , which must keep the canopy  pretty much the same FOREVER as it changes rear/front graphics !

    All these p shops use the current canopy applied to suggested front/rears - which ultimately  look like current car with aftermarket body kits.

     

    Apr 29, 2009 7:41:28 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    From what I can hear so far, the new car sounds rather promising. Smiley


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    Apr 29, 2009 11:07:05 PM

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     Looks and sounds like the 430 Scud.Smiley

     Whatever happened to what was to be the most beautiful car Ferrari ever made?Smiley


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    Apr 30, 2009 11:10:22 AM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Use the VLC player: http://www.videolan.org/

    It's the best.

    Direct download link (for Windows): http://www.videolan.org/mirror-geo.php?file=vlc/0.9.9/win32/vlc-0.9.9-win32.exe

     


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    Apr 30, 2009 7:51:23 PM

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Guys!!! we all know that the car wont look like any of the above!!! i'm 100% sure it will end up looking Amazing. So please chilll!!!!

    Ferrari never plays when it comes to the V8s, look back at all the previous models. they all look damn good!!!!

     
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