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Jan 27, 2009 5:06:08 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Gauss

Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots

These are the new pictures while 991 refueling. One thing that got my attention and need confirmation from our European members is:

In the U.S. the green nozzle indicates Diesel fuel, is it the same in Europe ?

Could this be a TDI ?

Look closer:

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Jan 27, 2009 6:52:11 AM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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Ron,don't warry..green here is unleaded Smiley

Smiley

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Jan 27, 2009 7:31:18 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Super Darius

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Super Darius:

Ron,don't warry..green here is unleaded

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Smiley I thought I was up to something.

Smiley

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Jan 27, 2009 10:34:13 AM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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Looks like the Boxster will also have cameras instead of side mirrors. I wonder if the new Cayenne will be left out in this experiment.

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Jan 27, 2009 11:24:59 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Emperor

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Emperor:

Looks like the Boxster will also have cameras instead of side mirrors. I wonder if the new Cayenne will be left out in this experiment.

I don't know...but I don't think are rear view cameras...maybe only bigger pdc on test mules...look the other holes near the plate..

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Jan 27, 2009 12:58:03 PM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: andrea

Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots

The pics are nice...

Do you know guys - will the engine in next 911 be moved a little bit in front to improve weight balance and handling?

What I see from the photots - that yes, because Porsche would like to close a little bit to mid-engine layout to compete in full with Audi R8

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Jan 28, 2009 2:27:03 AM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: artur777

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artur777:

The pics are nice...

Do you know guys - will the engine in next 911 be moved a little bit in front to improve weight balance and handling?

What I see from the photots - that yes, because Porsche would like to close a little bit to mid-engine layout to compete in full with Audi R8

They don't need to. The Cayman is close to perfection as a midengined car can be. It is widely known that I would blow the 911 and R8 off the road if it was given the same power. Yes the competition has stiffened with cars like the GT-R, R8 and Z06 up the rear bumper on the 911. Porsche has probably recognised the need to step it up a bit and they will probably do so by giving the 911 a signifigant power bump rather than killing the 911 by moving the engine to the middle.

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Jan 28, 2009 11:05:33 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Emperor

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Guys, I think it is no secret that Porsche is experimenting with video rear view systems but IF the cameras are coming, they will be HERE. Smiley

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Jan 28, 2009 12:18:36 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: RC

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New side mirror look so bad with the long body, like a coupe version of the new 4-door Panamera.

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Jan 28, 2009 4:24:50 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Turbo4ever

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I'm surprised nobody's commented on the tail lights yet, but they're ugly.
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Jan 28, 2009 6:21:29 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Guys, I think it is no secret that Porsche is experimenting with video rear view systems but IF the cameras are coming, they will be HERE.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW

SAAB 9X concept with rear view cameras and 2 monitors on dashboard

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Jan 28, 2009 7:10:33 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: SoCal Alan

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SoCal Alan:
I'm surprised nobody's commented on the tail lights yet, but they're ugly.
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because are only camo-lights

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Jan 28, 2009 8:42:01 PM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Guys, I think it is no secret that Porsche is experimenting with video rear view systems but IF the cameras are coming, they will be HERE.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW

That's what I have thought as having them on the bumper is not very logical.

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Jan 28, 2009 9:05:44 PM

ed_moree: Rennteam Pro; Loc: spain , China; Posts: 2407, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: Emperor

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Here is the video, sound quite diesel that engine....

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Jan 28, 2009 9:09:33 PM

ed_moree: Rennteam Pro; Loc: spain , China; Posts: 2407, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: ed_moree

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sorry guys I don´t know how to post the video :-(
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Jan 28, 2009 10:10:08 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: ed_moree

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ed_moree:

Here is the video, sound quite diesel that engine....

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I heard a diesel engine sound too but I think it was from a truck on the road by the gas station.

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Jan 29, 2009 6:58:04 AM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: andrea

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andrea:

SoCal Alan:
I'm surprised nobody's commented on the tail lights yet, but they're ugly.
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because are only camo-lights

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I hope you're right, but we've been burned many times in the past, hoping that the camo was hiding the real skin, when it wasn't.

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Jan 29, 2009 7:20:30 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: SoCal Alan

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Checking that convertible roof of the new Carrera and Boxster I more and more think, that the Carrera will have a hard-top. This roof is so even, has no lines, nothing. Comparing to the new Boxster which still looks the same. I mean, if they found a way to improve a convertible roof that much, why only putting it on top of the 911? There must be a bigger change/reason.

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Jan 29, 2009 8:59:40 AM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots

Ron (Houston):

These are the new pictures while 991 refueling. One thing that got my attention and need confirmation from our European members is:

In the U.S. the green nozzle indicates Diesel fuel, is it the same in Europe ?

Could this be a TDI ?

Look closer:

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Happy Driving

At least in Repsol, green SP95. Black diesel.

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Jan 29, 2009 3:15:44 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Enzo II

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Enzo911:

Ron (Houston):

These are the new pictures while 991 refueling. One thing that got my attention and need confirmation from our European members is:

In the U.S. the green nozzle indicates Diesel fuel, is it the same in Europe ?

Could this be a TDI ?

Look closer:

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Happy Driving

At least in Repsol, green SP95. Black diesel.

if it's the same gas station of the video posted,it's Shell

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Jan 29, 2009 6:30:27 PM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: andrea

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AFAIK green nozzles are petrol, black ones are diesel in Europe...
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Jan 30, 2009 5:38:23 AM

Matt C: Veteran; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1092, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 28, 2003; Reply to: Porker

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Porker:
AFAIK green nozzles are petrol, black ones are diesel in Europe...
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Correct, for Switzerland at least.

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2005 997 C2S / 1988 911 3.2 Conv.

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Jan 31, 2009 11:40:22 AM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: Matt C

Jan 31, 2009 3:07:51 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Enzo II

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Thanks for the pix Smiley . I like what I see so far.

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Jan 31, 2009 4:04:38 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: Enzo II

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Thanks for nice pics. Enzo Smiley I like very much .

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Jan 31, 2009 4:27:06 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: Enzo II

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great!,thanks Enzo!

take a look at the black mule,it seems the taillights will be different from the yellow one!and till now,is the first shot of a mule where you can see the taillights Smiley

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Jan 31, 2009 5:20:49 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Super Darius

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Super Darius:

great!,thanks Enzo!

take a look at the black mule,it seems the taillights will be different from the yellow one!and till now,is the first shot of a mule where you can see the taillights

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997 TT, what a car/che'mmmmmaghena!!!

True. The taillights appear like a elongated triangular shape. But the back so much closer (looks wise) to 993 Smiley

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Jan 31, 2009 5:50:59 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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On the one hand, I like the looks. On the other hand, this is nothing more than a facelift, exterior-wise. So it's hard to get excited about the 991/998.
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Jan 31, 2009 7:35:06 PM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: Matt C

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Matt C:

Porker:
AFAIK green nozzles are petrol, black ones are diesel in Europe...
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Correct, for Switzerland at least.

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Matt C
2005 997 C2S / 1988 911 3.2 Conv.

and for Luxembourg.

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Jan 31, 2009 8:45:34 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: Gauss

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Gauss:

Matt C:

Porker:
AFAIK green nozzles are petrol, black ones are diesel in Europe...
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Correct, for Switzerland at least.

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2005 997 C2S / 1988 911 3.2 Conv.

and for Luxembourg.

IIRC, green gasoline/petrol nozzle handles were introduced with the introduction of unleaded petrol in Europe to further differentiate them from leaded gas nozzles (which were also larger in diameter).

Now that unleaded petrol is no longer available, all petrol nozzle handles are green, whereas only diesel fuel nozzle handles are black.

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