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Apr 28, 2010 11:13:22 AM
- ed_moree
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
This is the stupidest think I have heard!!! So Ferrari has the controls for the air conditioning from the Fiat. So they can't build an air conditioning controls for their cars.... ... well poor Ferrari... or... poor... 
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
I think we hijacked the post, we should go back at talking about the 991... For me it can have the hybrid made by Santa Claus while is fast and it is improved in every way possible and makes it a better car it is allways a 911 and I will love to own one!!!
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Apr 28, 2010 10:01:17 PM
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Apr 29, 2010 5:25:05 AM
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Apr 29, 2010 5:35:41 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Yup, pretty curious where they're going to put it.
From the looks of it in the GT3-R, the whole system is pretty big, and they'll be having a hard time to stuff it under the chairs or so. I thought it might be placed where normally the rear seats would be, since the GT3 doesn't have those, but then the centre of gravity might be too far aft?
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Apr 29, 2010 5:42:13 AM
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Apr 29, 2010 8:12:03 AM
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Apr 29, 2010 9:12:45 AM
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Apr 29, 2010 9:57:54 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Great images, anybody complaining about a third party supplying technology does not know the effort and involvement of these companies in both production and racing cars. As a sidenote, brake systems and engine managements are usually supplied by these manufacturers to Ferrari as well, for various sensible reasons that is. In case of the 430 by Bosch for the road car, by Magnetti Marelli on the racecar. Any further discussion is obsolete.
Stated in the most recent SportAuto, the GT3 Hybrid is still beyond its mandatory weight limit of 1350 kg. 
Apr 29, 2010 10:12:56 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Ferdie:
Stated in the most recent SportAuto, the GT3 Hybrid is still beyond its mandatory weight limit of 1350 kg.
Ferdie - I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are they saying that the Hybrid is still under the mandatory weight of 1350Kg or are they suggesting that it is overweight and needs to loose weight to come to the required 1350Kg.
I ask this because usually racing rules stipulate the minimum weight (not really caring if you are above it).
Please excuse me but I must have forgotten to take my meds today.
Apr 29, 2010 10:21:08 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Spyderidol:
Ferdie:
Stated in the most recent SportAuto, the GT3 Hybrid is still beyond its mandatory weight limit of 1350 kg.
Ferdie - I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are they saying that the Hybrid is still under the mandatory weight of 1350Kg or are they suggesting that it is overweight and needs to loose weight to come to the required 1350Kg.
I ask this because usually racing rules stipulate the minimum weight (not really caring if you are above it).
Please excuse me but I must have forgotten to take my meds today.
I'm not even on medication but am also suffering from your problem. 
So, Ferdie, what is the situation with the weight limit? 
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Sorry guys... didn´t want you to feel the need for medication! I tried to summarize that the Hybrid car is still heavier than the weightlimit for its class and, according to the article, by a significant margin. I just mentioned it to underline my assumption that this car should be very competitive.
Apr 29, 2010 10:36:53 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Ha! So its still much heavier than it needs to be. (although I'm not really surprised as the hybrid system is rather ..."portly")
Now the million dollar question is whether they can find the weight loss needed to make it really competitive.
Thanks for the update!
Apr 29, 2010 10:52:13 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
From my understanding, the weight reduction is targeted already and I´d be curious to know which changes will be made in detail. It is, so far, intended to miss out on three pit stops during the 24h race if all systems are running well.
The car has been running properly so far and its performance is one of the major reasons for me to watch the race this year. To me, there is no better way to test this technology... both in technological and marketing aspects.
Apr 29, 2010 11:08:33 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
No doubt!
I will be following on live timing and Radio Le Mans.(as I did last year)
So the forecast is to miss 3 stops. That works out to be about 1 to 1,5 lap gain overall.
It seems that they are focusing on the fuel aspect over the "extra power" aspect.
I'm curious to see the "new" lap times.
Apr 29, 2010 11:44:06 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 Hybrid spy pics...
Boxster Coupe GTS:
Following to the earlier "supplier" discussion around the Porsche 911 GT3 R Hybrid, the following cutaway diagrams provide an interesting perspective on the logistics of developing a new car in 2010...
On the right upper corner there is a twin turbochargers supply... The things to come in the future?
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Apr 29, 2010 4:21:42 PM
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Apr 29, 2010 5:49:02 PM
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Apr 29, 2010 7:39:18 PM
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Re: Back OT-991 at the Ring
The Porsche 991 fake turbo air-inlets on the test mule raise suggest a couple of possibilities:
(i) the fake turbo air-inlets provide a "visual distraction" from the extended wheelbase and wider track on the Porsche 991, with the rear wheels moving further back and gaining extended wheel arches;
(ii) the fake turbo air-inlets can also provide camouflage to obfuscate the next generation air-inlets, which help keep the engine cool as it moves relatively further forward in the chassis...
Apr 30, 2010 3:47:52 PM
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Re: Back OT-991 at the Ring
Sorry for OT. Racetrack success for Williams Hybrid Power brings further F1 investment
Nice "supplier" pics GTS
May 3, 2010 11:54:00 AM
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Re: Back OT-991 at the Ring
Boxster Coupe GTS:
(ii) the fake turbo air-inlets can also provide camouflage to obfuscate the next generation air-inlets, which help keep the engine cool as it moves relatively further forward in the chassis...
RC mentioned many months ago that the best strategy to hide something is to fake something else. I wonder why the 991 would need more air then the 997 though .
May 3, 2010 9:21:07 PM
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