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Aug 12, 2011 9:32:17 AM

Boyko23: Veteran; Loc: Sofia , Bulgaria; Posts: 1116, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 27, 2004; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: 991 spy shots

Porsche-Jeck:
Explanation in Autobild Article: the designers had the task to differentiate the front more from Boxster/Cayman. Form follows marketing instead of form follows function

It’s good news in my opinion, especially in times, when all the models from one brand look almost the same – BMW, MB, Audi…

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Aug 12, 2011 10:20:54 AM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: magu

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magu:
....i'm not sure about the lights on the bumper....do you like it???

exactly my thoughts too - No... Smiley - anyway have to see it in real flesh I guess

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Aug 12, 2011 11:14:39 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: BjoernB

Re: 991 spy shots

BjoernB:

magu:
....i'm not sure about the lights on the bumper....do you like it???

exactly my thoughts too - No... - anyway have to see it in real flesh I guess

which lights Smiley

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"Form follows function"

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Aug 12, 2011 11:25:43 AM

buzzinfrog: Junior; Loc: Ankara , Turkey; Posts: 72, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 13, 2007; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 991 spy shots

Boxster Coupe GTS:

Carrara:

A few hours of editing and analyzing spy shots:

...looking good Carrara!

How I wish the new 991 would be exactly the same as the black illustration of AB that was released earlier. Smiley

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'08 997 C4 sand beige on basalt black

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Aug 12, 2011 11:33:08 AM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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KresoF1:

Just little hint... Yesterday, I was with my P source who is on vacation on Adriatic coast. He told me that:"...despite all worries that rennteamers wrote new 991 will be a better sportscar then 997.2-period. 997.2 Carrera GTS or 991 S? You must be kidding-991 S of course. Naturally with all sporty options. In my opinion even base 991 Carrera with 350ps will be more then sufficient for most costumers." He works over 10 years for P in Z. His infos were always 100% correct. I saw 991 again on screen without any camo(press pics are ready!) and I am sold.

Many thanks Kreso!!! Smiley

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Aug 12, 2011 11:42:49 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: pjd

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Official German dealers intro date is 03rd December.

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Aug 12, 2011 11:45:50 AM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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Thanks for the video

The shape of the rear fenders looks very powerful visually and they blend very pleasingly with the higher (compared to 997) front fenders.

The front lights seem larger than 997's and more domed, more bug-eyed but the exact shape seems undefined as yet.

I also liked the shape of the cabin and glasshouse above the waistline.

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"Form follows function"

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Aug 12, 2011 12:55:49 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: reginos

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Kreso, what can you tell us from the headlights? Are the shape like on this last video?

In the video they seem unproportioned....

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Aug 12, 2011 5:02:06 PM

Guy: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 135, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 27, 2003; Reply to: pjd

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I think the rear looks great with the Euro flat number plate cutout, but looks quite wrong with the square (US?) cut-out.....

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Aug 12, 2011 5:07:23 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: Guy

Re: 991 spy shots

The camo is slowly peeling off the headlights, and they're gorgeous!

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Aug 12, 2011 5:16:18 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Carrara

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Good find Carrara!!

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Aug 12, 2011 5:41:00 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: pjd

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Here's a quick, sloppy little sketch brushing away the rest of the camo. I'm almost 100% sure this will be the final shape.

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Aug 12, 2011 6:00:17 PM

JP66: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Seattle , United States; Posts: 2217, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2003; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: 991 spy shots

Porsche-Jeck:

mateoche:

maybe it's just me but the design looks overly finnicky and gaudy

Explanation in Autobild Article: the designers had the task to differentiate the front more from Boxster/Cayman. Form follows marketing instead of form follows function

Then they should have put the "eyebrows" on the Boxster/Caymans, not the 911 Smiley

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Aug 12, 2011 6:01:50 PM

Pentium: Rennteam Master; Loc: Earth , Romania; Posts: 3055, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 27, 2003; Reply to: Carrara

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Hello Maserati!

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Aug 12, 2011 6:07:27 PM

dxpetrov: Senior; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 562, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2011; Reply to: Carrara

Re: 991 spy shots

Carrara:

The camo is slowly peeling off the headlights, and they're gorgeous!

I like what I see so far. It's very nice that headlights are getting that convex shape and form an extension of the side wings (as in 918), to the contrary of the 997 where lights are cut-offs and not really fluid... Also good thing that rear lights are getting slimer and getting rid off of those tacky dotted LEDs!

Very comprehensive and thought-through design! Smiley

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Aug 12, 2011 6:39:30 PM

scubywrxr: Newbie; Loc: South Africa; Posts: 23, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 2, 2006; Reply to: dxpetrov

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Enough for RC to get a GTS, Im just saying ;)

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Aug 12, 2011 7:24:54 PM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: scubywrxr

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first picture without any camo at the front bumper! I like this little wrinkle on the side of the bumper, gives that little extra to the car, to stand out against an 997! Damn, isnt that a fine looking car!

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Aug 12, 2011 7:29:33 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: scubywrxr

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The marketing folks are laughing their a**es off at these prescripted weekly strip- tease

" spy pics " , with these cars now being driven around the past couple months on everyday urban roads by them- not validating engineers . It's all part of keeping the hype at peak interest leading up to the Frankfurt intro.

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Aug 12, 2011 7:29:37 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: Lars997

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Lars997:
first picture without any camo at the front bumper! I like this little wrinkle on the side of the bumper, gives that little extra to the car, to stand out against an 997! Damn, isnt that a fine looking car!

Is that the same Lars speaking as a few pages ago...? Smiley

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Aug 12, 2011 7:59:09 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: MKW

Re: 991 spy shots

MKW:

The marketing folks are laughing their a**es off at these prescripted weekly strip- tease

" spy pics " , with these cars now being driven around the past couple months on everyday urban roads by them- not validating engineers . It's all part of keeping the hype at peak interest leading up to the Frankfurt intro.

I

That's exactly what they did with the 997! I really don't mind, and I'm sure they all know how much we enjoy it. I think its a much better idea to run around in nearly undisguised pre-production cars while slowly peeling off the camo, rather than releasing official teaser images.

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Aug 12, 2011 8:13:02 PM

orchard21: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 59, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 16, 2003; Reply to: Carrara

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So the headlights will be oval? Like the Boxster??

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Aug 12, 2011 8:27:59 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: orchard21

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Check this out from the June issue of flat6:

Porsche speaking: "We know that the PSE on the 997.2 isn't the best. There is very little difference in sound with the standard exhaust. The fault lies with the noise reduction standards which we've had to adhere to and which changed between Phase 1 and Phase 2 [997.1 vs. 997.2]. But since, we've found a way to get very good results these new standards. You will see that on the 991, PSE will be excellent"

"The 991 is very pretty. It's a pure 911 and even if it is slightly larger in dimension you will find it as compact as the 997 when driving. We have worked the weight aspect a lot on this new generation".

Thanks to rennlist for the find and translation!

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Aug 12, 2011 8:35:16 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Carrara

Aug 12, 2011 8:39:22 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: JP66

Re: 991 spy shots

JP66:

Porsche-Jeck:

mateoche:

maybe it's just me but the design looks overly finnicky and gaudy

Explanation in Autobild Article: the designers had the task to differentiate the front more from Boxster/Cayman. Form follows marketing instead of form follows function

Then they should have put the "eyebrows" on the Boxster/Caymans, not the 911

I agree. These eyebrows are terrible Smiley

But the front lights seem to be nice

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Aug 12, 2011 10:16:45 PM

996AD: Pilot; Loc: Abu Dhabi , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 358, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 12, 2004; Reply to: Gnil

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Thanks Carrera for the PSE news really gave me hope in 991.. But if sound was not satisfying I'm going for GT3

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Aug 12, 2011 10:18:45 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 991 spy shots

So far, we've been looking at spyshots with camouflage, magazine renderings, photoshop efforts etc.

We haven't seen the official Porsche PR yet (which will indicate how Porsche wants us to react to this car), read any magazine reviews, done our own test drives or owned the first cars to come off the production line.

I really do believe that once these things have happened, overall, we will all be very pleased with the result. There may be small details that not all of us will like - but you can't please everyone all the time.

Let's think back to the introduction of the 997 around 2004. Now compare those early cars with the latest incarnations: the 997 Carrera GTS and the 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0. These latest cars are the best that the 997 range could be.

Can you imagine how amazing the 991 will be by the end of its life cycle?

The point is that we are all hoping and expecting the beginning of the 991 life cycle to be better than the comparable models from the end of the 997 life cycle. I personally have no reason to doubt this will be the case.

I guess this post is just my way of saying: sit tight guys, we have good reason to expect that we are going to be very pleasantly surprised.

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997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red

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Aug 12, 2011 10:48:20 PM

Carrara: Senior; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2011; Reply to: easy_rider911

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Aug 12, 2011 11:41:00 PM

xandi911: Senior; Loc: brasil; Posts: 688, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 14, 2006; Reply to: Carrara

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according the photoshop by carrara if the headlight will be like that format is the most horrible thing i have ever seen.

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Aug 13, 2011 12:07:04 AM

mojeIme: Junior; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 105, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 17, 2010; Reply to: xandi911

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any ideas on what engine the 991 gt3 will use?

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