21-Nov-2008 17:28:23
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21-Nov-2008 17:32:44
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21-Nov-2008 17:48:59
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21-Nov-2008 19:15:35
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
RC:
Looks more like a Panamera Coupe to me but...
Christian,in fact at first look seems longer than a 911
But looking better,has a lot of parts more of a 911 than of a Panamera..but the air inlet for the intercoolers are fake,is too big,too thin,and specially from this angle ...i think you are right...
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21-Nov-2008 22:26:10
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
I give you guys two hints:
1. it doesn't make ANY sense to camouflage a 998 at this point of time, simply because Porsche can drive around with 998 technology in the 997
2. such a camouflage makes only sense if the car is close to production(a year or so)
3. during my time in the foreign service I learned that the best place to hide something is to hide it in something hidden, so nobody looks further for it 
The 998(whatever) is not due before 2010 or 2011. The Turbo is at least three years away.
Now do the math...
I don't know if Porsche will call this a Panamera Coupe or Ferdie Coupe or whatever but it doesn't look like the next generation Turbo to me, sorry.
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
Porsche won't create something called Panamera coupe as they are already marketing the car as a four door sports car, making a coupe of a four door coupe is redundant.
This mule is a 998 and there's no point in reading too much into it as it's a very early stage test mule so the body kit is just there to cover what's below. Here porsche are just testing the chassi, engine, transmission and suspension i.e the under pinnings. The real body kit will be coming on in one year or so when launch is just 2 year away. Since the car won't be too different from the 997 in terms of overall design and shape Porsche can use the 997 body kit for quite a while until it's time to test the 998 body.
22-Nov-2008 00:49:35
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
its not the 998 mule..
overhangs are too long on both the rear and the front, the rear already shows signs of relationship to the panamera and yes the overal wheel length seems bigger than 911 as well... the rear features are a good 10 inches longer than 911..
If they are testing the 998 already, which is very likely i don't think they'll run around trying to cover the final body design. Early design is done in 997 disguise im sorry...
This has to be a 928 successor to please people hating the Panamera intro.. same platform, same engines... just more space than 911/cayman and less doors than the Panamera ;)
overhangs are too long on both the rear and the front, the rear already shows signs of relationship to the panamera and yes the overal wheel length seems bigger than 911 as well... the rear features are a good 10 inches longer than 911..
If they are testing the 998 already, which is very likely i don't think they'll run around trying to cover the final body design. Early design is done in 997 disguise im sorry...
This has to be a 928 successor to please people hating the Panamera intro.. same platform, same engines... just more space than 911/cayman and less doors than the Panamera ;)
22-Nov-2008 00:52:16
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
Emperor:
Porsche won't create something called Panamera coupe as they are already marketing the car as a four door sports car, making a coupe of a four door coupe is redundant.
Like I said before: it doesn't have to be called Panamera Coupe.
How about Panamera GT or just GT.
Anyway: a two door coupe makes sense if you're looking at Porsche's model range recently.
The 911 may have two doors but for some drivers, this car may be too sporty and not comfortable enough. I won't even mention the rear seats of the 911 which are only suitable for small kids.
A Grand Tourismo coupe makes a lot of sense, this is why I think that we're going to see one sooner or later if the Panamera "adventure" succeeds.
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
RC:I'd take that as a hint. So a 2+2 rear engine car is in the pipe line?? 599GTB competitor??
Emperor:
Porsche won't create something called Panamera coupe as they are already marketing the car as a four door sports car, making a coupe of a four door coupe is redundant.
Like I said before: it doesn't have to be called Panamera Coupe.
How about Panamera GT or just GT.
Anyway: a two door coupe makes sense if you're looking at Porsche's model range recently.
The 911 may have two doors but for some drivers, this car may be too sporty and not comfortable enough. I won't even mention the rear seats of the 911 which are only suitable for small kids.
A Grand Tourismo coupe makes a lot of sense, this is why I think that we're going to see one sooner or later if the Panamera "adventure" succeeds.
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22-Nov-2008 12:01:03
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
RC:Sorry - couldn't let that slide - too funny
I give you guys two hints:
1. it doesn't make ANY sense to camouflage a 998 at this point of time, simply because Porsche can drive around with 998 technology in the 997
2. such a camouflage makes only sense if the car is close to production(a year or so)
3. during my time in the foreign service I learned that the best place to hide something is to hide it in something hidden, so nobody looks further for it
...
Now do the math...
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22-Nov-2008 15:56:11
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
to me it looks just like a ordinary 997 turbo with a new back that is covered to hide the new external goodies for 997.2 turbo. New wing and new lights.... the front looks like any 997.2. Can't this just be that porsche decided to give the 997.2 turbo, gt2,gt3 and the other top-line 997.2 a new rear to differentiate it more from 997.2 carreras?
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22-Nov-2008 15:59:01
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
Lukas:The side turbo air intakes are fake, they are "painted in".
to me it looks just like a ordinary 997 turbo with a new back that is covered to hide the new external goodies for 997.2 turbo. New wing and new lights.... the front looks like any 997.2. Can't this just be that porsche decided to give the 997.2 turbo, gt2,gt3 and the other top-line 997.2 a new rear to differentiate it more from 997.2 carreras?
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
Lukas:Yes, the front and especially the rear of the facelifted 997 Turbo are a bit different compared to the current one. There is however no need to drive it around in such a heavy camouflage.
to me it looks just like a ordinary 997 turbo with a new back that is covered to hide the new external goodies for 997.2 turbo. New wing and new lights.... the front looks like any 997.2. Can't this just be that porsche decided to give the 997.2 turbo, gt2,gt3 and the other top-line 997.2 a new rear to differentiate it more from 997.2 carreras?
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22-Nov-2008 18:40:06
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22-Nov-2008 18:54:47
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
MKM:
If it is a new 2+2 coupe, rear engine, then what is the engine? It certainly does not look like there is space for a V8.
So, either a classic flat-6 or a new flat-8.
If it is the next generation 998, then all points to a bigger chassis.
If it is a 2+2 Coupe built on the Panamera platform, it would be a front-engined V8...
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Re: 998 Turbo - Spy shots
Really interesting!
I don't understand the shape of the rear lights yet, but the hips look promising. It really shows a wide track. A 2-door panamera is a nice idea; finally all the fans of the 928 might get their ways!
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