Re: Tiptronic!
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Mussl Kar said:Quote:
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RC said:
I suggest you try a E55 and SL55 and see if the auto tranny feels the same. We owned a ML55, E55 and SLK32. All cars had a great auto tranny. Especially the E55 tranny was wroking nicely but also the SLK32 tranny. The ML55 tranny worked nice after around 50000 km...a software bug (which actually needed a reset) improved shifting, as funny as this may sound. My mechanic knew of this "problem" but he suggested to leave it this way if I'm happy. The only downside: apparently the emissions control was affected, so I wouldn't have passed emissions testing.
I drove a SLK55 the same day it was out on the market and actually liked the Speedtronic, it didn't feel much different than the other AMG auto trannies.
The only thing I didn't like was the fact, that the SLK55 actually felt less sporty than my wife's former SLK32, a pretty surprising experience. This is also one of the major reasons we went for a Boxster S instead. My wife didn't want too (soft top, too loud) but ask her now, she would KILL anybody who tries to take the Boxster S away from her.
RC,
I noted that the later software revisions of the C32 software felt less sporty than the original MY2002 software. They smoothed out the shifting a bit and the upshifts in the lower gears felt especially more "soft". Perhaps AMG tuned the software a bit differently for later models due to complaints. I had a transmission problem and they upgraded the car to the '03 ECU, which I did not like as much.
The E55 autobox works quite well for the car. Feels more natural than the equivalent BMW autobox. Though, if you say it acts similarly to the 997 Tiptronic, I'm not sure I'd want it. Seems to take a bit of edge out of the driving experience, even if I would be faster with the Tip.
Will the 997TT Tip have better rev-matching while downshifting? The AMG software upshifts reasonably fast, and reacts to input to downshift quickly in most cases, but sometimes I feel there is too much compression experienced. It was worse in my C32. In the 3-2 for example, you have to wait for a while at high revvs for the car to become settled.
- Justin
What will be intriguing to learn is how relevant/irrelevant shift times/gearing will be for cars w/450++ lb-ft at 1800RPM, like 997TT and 65s. My only gripe w/997TT Tip is the lack of paddle shifters, to more ergonomically play w/the gears. However, will extensively test-drive a colleague's '07 S65 (5-speed AMG SpeedShift w/paddle shifters) upon its July arrival....and will determine whether I can find any settings where paddle-shifters are preferred from either a "feel" or timing standpoint vs letting Tip select gears itself (in networked coordination w/ESP/PSM/PTM/eAWD, etc etc), esp in a high-torque, software-rich car like 65/997TT.....
I did not know the Tip is without paddel/button shifters. I could have sworn that I saw a pic somewhere on that. BTW the new paddles on the AMGs replace the buttons, but they are still attached to the steering wheel and not to the column. It is easy to get them confused with very tight turns as the upshift can be on the other side of the wheel. Ask me how I know.
BINGO! Found it. There are shifter buttons on the wheel.
Just as confusing as the AMG, only different. Plus button (+) on top and downshift button (-) on bottom. But that is only with the wheel pointing straight ahead. Shuffle the wheel in a tight turn and WHOOPSIE!
