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    Dec 7, 2003 6:37:40 PM

    RCA
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    Today on the Autobahn...

    On my way back from Legoland Germany with my family, I couldn't believe my eyes. He didn't have a blown tire and I really wonder how it happened.
    Apparently nobody was really hurt.

    Just posted this picture to remind you guys that we're driving a SUV and a rollover is always a present danger, even if the Cayenne is a very refined and safe SUV.

    Dec 7, 2003 6:49:42 PM

    FutchM
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    Re: Today on the Autobahn...

    Nasty indeed,
    As opposed to what the majority thinks, SUV are more dangerous than conventionnal autos.
    Trivial physics really, higher center of gravity and there you go.
    And it's not Volvo XC90 anti roll over device that's going to change the world.
    Fanch.

    Dec 8, 2003 8:55:45 AM

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    Re: Today on the Autobahn...

    although the situation is not funny at all, i couldn't resist to smirk when seeing the picture.

    btw, i didn't know that legoland is still open...

    Dec 8, 2003 9:14:45 AM

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    Re: Today on the Autobahn...

    Quote:
    although the situation is not funny at all, i couldn't resist to smirk when seeing the picture.

    btw, i didn't know that legoland is still open...



    Legoland was open from 11:30 am to 2:00 pm for an all-you-can-eat brunch (yummy ) and then they opened the park but only a few attractions were working. They had a nice ice skating ground for people, I really enjoyed the atmosphere. But it had only around 0*C outside temperature and an icey wind was blowing. It is time for Florida...
    Check www.legoland.de for opening times in december and january, we're only 40 km away from them and our little daughter gets big eyes everytime we go there. However, Disneyworld is still her favorite, whenever she sees the US flag, she says "look Daddy, Mickey's flag".

    Dec 8, 2003 12:00:02 PM

    GM AustinM
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    Re: Today on the Autobahn...

    Quote:
    As opposed to what the majority thinks, SUV are more dangerous than conventionnal autos



    In some ways, yes. It depends on what type of accident you plan to have. In single car accidents they are definitely more hazardous, mostly because of the rollover problem. And they are more dangerous to other cars they run into.

    But, with a slow and careful driver they offer superior protection for their occupants in collisions with other cars, primarily because of their mass (trival physics again).

    Dec 8, 2003 2:54:50 PM

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    Re: Today on the Autobahn...

    Quote:
    Quote:
    As opposed to what the majority thinks, SUV are more dangerous than conventionnal autos



    In some ways, yes. It depends on what type of accident you plan to have. In single car accidents they are definitely more hazardous, mostly because of the rollover problem. And they are more dangerous to other cars they run into.

    But, with a slow and careful driver they offer superior protection for their occupants in collisions with other cars, primarily because of their mass (trival physics again).



    SUVs also have 3 times more probablility of a tire blow out independant of the driver too. So it depends, its a matter of "passive" safety vs "active" safety. SUVs are nat as good at active safety (avoidance of the actual accident due to roll overs with sudden maneuvers such as avoiding and obstacle, lower stopping distance, less maneuvability and control, etc) but are somewhat better at passive safety (consecuenses of the accident itself once it happens such as higher inertia from the greater weight which is good for some type of accidents, safer cabin to impact from another vehicle from the higher vehicle height, etc) but passive safety is much more highly variable depending on the type of accident so not as a sure asset as active safety.

    So all in all, high-end sportcars are the safest vehicles on the streets contrary to popular belief that sportcars are dangerous, its the driver who can make it dangerous, the vehicle itself is safer if driven properly. Many people don't realise its the driver who is the greatest factor in safety compared to which type of vehicle it is, whats the point of spending extra amounts of money in vehicle safety if you don't bother to spend a little time and money to learn how to drive well (not fast but rather safe and well though both are linked together), beyond whats needed to get your drivers licence? sportcar fans like us tend to do well in that aspect thanks to our passion for driving... driving bikes and cars since 11-12 years of age and still street accident free
     
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