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Re: Shelby GT350
Rotbart:2018 Mustang be like
One of the worst examples of Mustang design...
I do not understand why Ford always has to mess up things. They get it right first and then they make it worse. 
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Re: Shelby GT350
Ford Mustang Fails Miserably In Euro NCAP's Tests Scoring 2 Stars
"This result is simply shocking for such a newly designed and popular model. The safety of adult occupants, child occupants and the ability to avoid a crash all form the basis of our ratings, and the Mustang falls short in each of these areas", said the ANCAP CEO, James Goodwin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0StTHnTKK8
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Yes, truly shocking. Just read it in evo:
http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/mustang/18757/ford-mustang-hits-the-wall-with-2-star-euro-ncap-score
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Re: Shelby GT350
bluelines:Yes, truly shocking. Just read it in evo:
http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/mustang/18757/ford-mustang-hits-the-wall-with-2-star-euro-ncap-score
Ouch, how is that even possible? 
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Jan 26, 2017 10:26:02 AM
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Re: Shelby GT350
Leawood911:Frankly RC should thank god every day that he walked away from the mustang death trap he had.
I had the previous generation and I've seen crashed cars at my mechanic (told you, dangerous car) but the drivers survived and sometimes quite surprising (cars looked really messed up).
However, there was a new Mustang (latest model) crash last year over here in Bavaria where a 49(?) year old guy died in the crash, he hit a tree...sideways and died at the spot. Car broke in half...
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Re: Shelby GT350
"Ford did not expect Euro NCAP to test the Mustang, and chose not to fit safety technology in Europe, which is available to its American consumers, and available on several other sports cars for that matter. Such an attitude to safety should trouble Ford's customers, whether they are buying a high-powered muscle car, or a regular family car", said Euro NCAP's Secretary General, Michiel van Ratingen.
If true, this is really scandalous and outrageous.
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they haven't sorted out the traction control issue....soooo Re: Shelby GT350
noone1:Didn't even know they sell Mustangs in Europe. Don't think I've ever seen a modern Mustang here.
Already saw tons of them in Bavaria. They are cheap (around 45k EUR for the V8 version with options) and there are lots of Ford dealers in Germany and the Mustang is officially available here, incl. the regular Ford factory warranty.
A guy from my town even tuned his new Mustang GT (V8) to around 600 hp using a supercharger kit. Don't ask about traction though... 
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Re: Shelby GT350
RC:"Ford did not expect Euro NCAP to test the Mustang, and chose not to fit safety technology in Europe, which is available to its American consumers, and available on several other sports cars for that matter. Such an attitude to safety should trouble Ford's customers, whether they are buying a high-powered muscle car, or a regular family car", said Euro NCAP's Secretary General, Michiel van Ratingen.
If true, this is really scandalous and outrageous.
Any idea what safety technology they are talking about? Did they delete side-impact airbags or something?
It seems a bit too strange to believe 
Re: Shelby GT350
Gladstone:RC:"Ford did not expect Euro NCAP to test the Mustang, and chose not to fit safety technology in Europe, which is available to its American consumers, and available on several other sports cars for that matter. Such an attitude to safety should trouble Ford's customers, whether they are buying a high-powered muscle car, or a regular family car", said Euro NCAP's Secretary General, Michiel van Ratingen.
If true, this is really scandalous and outrageous.
Any idea what safety technology they are talking about? Did they delete side-impact airbags or something?
It seems a bit too strange to believe
Here is the original article, in the Aussie site Caradvice as the testing quoted is Australian by their ANCAP testing agency. Of note:
- ANCAP ratings highly rank passive avoidance systems like lane avoidance, auto emergency braking, forward collision warning, etc, so their "shocking etc." quotes, and 2 star rating, were highly influenced by the absence of these on the Mustang. These are the safety technology they claim to be astonished are missing... how many cars yet have these as standard?? Basically they will only award high ratings to full nanny cars.
- ANCAP just revised their testing to more stringent standards, and not many cars, and no coupes, have seen the new standard.
- Ford is only recently selling the Mustang in Aus, and EU, so may have fallen short in crash testing for all these non-North American safety organizations, relying on NHTSA. On the other hand, I don't know how many +2 coupes will have vastly better rear seat crash ratings?
- Our Aussie RT members may have a view, but I wonder if this Australian safety organization, with no domestic production soon, is worried about its future relevance, and needs some "shocking" headlines. Ford of course cannot say this.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/516889/ford-mustang-gets-two-star-ancap-crash-rating/
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Re: Shelby GT350
KMM:It seems to me Switzerland always had more American cars than other European countries (based on me recollection from years ago).
That is very true . As we do not have any '' national'' brand , we are open to all car brands . Germans, French favor their brands . We also have a higher disposable income and have been a nation who likes bigger and more powerful engines compared to the other European countries .
Sweeden is also very keen on US cars, maybe even more so then Switzerland ( but more the older cars )
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Re: Shelby GT350
4trac:Gladstone:RC:"Ford did not expect Euro NCAP to test the Mustang, and chose not to fit safety technology in Europe, which is available to its American consumers, and available on several other sports cars for that matter. Such an attitude to safety should trouble Ford's customers, whether they are buying a high-powered muscle car, or a regular family car", said Euro NCAP's Secretary General, Michiel van Ratingen.
If true, this is really scandalous and outrageous.
Any idea what safety technology they are talking about? Did they delete side-impact airbags or something?
It seems a bit too strange to believe
Here is the original article, in the Aussie site Caradvice as the testing quoted is Australian by their ANCAP testing agency. Of note:
- ANCAP ratings highly rank passive avoidance systems like lane avoidance, auto emergency braking, forward collision warning, etc, so their "shocking etc." quotes, and 2 star rating, were highly influenced by the absence of these on the Mustang. These are the safety technology they claim to be astonished are missing... how many cars yet have these as standard?? Basically they will only award high ratings to full nanny cars.
- ANCAP just revised their testing to more stringent standards, and not many cars, and no coupes, have seen the new standard.
- Ford is only recently selling the Mustang in Aus, and EU, so may have fallen short in crash testing for all these non-North American safety organizations, relying on NHTSA. On the other hand, I don't know how many +2 coupes will have vastly better rear seat crash ratings?
- Our Aussie RT members may have a view, but I wonder if this Australian safety organization, with no domestic production soon, is worried about its future relevance, and needs some "shocking" headlines. Ford of course cannot say this.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/516889/ford-mustang-gets-two-star-ancap-crash-rating/
Lol on that last point. This is an independent body in Australia, and we aren't some third world country that would manipulate some result that is scientific.
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