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Stephenkng said:
I believe the PCM is standard on the base 997
You are indeed correct. What does PCM actually provide? (Will get a brochure on Saturday.
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Pabs1 said:
The question is, Do I need the back seats at all ? eventhough they are barely " seats ".
If not it depends if you like gadgets, if you do , get the cayman because then you can add a lot of goodies.
If you are not into gadgets then get the 997 ( which is a better car to have ) and add only what will make the car more enjoyable to drive , do not get stuff that is just for show.
I will not give you my opinion on what you should get as options on a 997, it depends on your needs.
Well, my wife seems to think the back seats! could come in useful as we have a 2yr old. I have a 3.2 TT at the moment and if the little lad is in his seat in the back, no-one can sit in the passenger side as I have to fold the seat forward. Has anyone any ideas if this would be the same with the 997. Does the rear seats have ISO-Fix or am I being stupid?
I'm not really a fan of Gadgets, but Climate Control (if you can consider it a gadget) is required. Does the 997 have CC? I'm just going to build one on the Porsche Website and see if that helps me.
Is it right that the Cayman handles better?
My needs are simple. I need it for everyday use so it's got to be fairly good with fuel economy when I need it to be (not often, as I drive the 3.2 TT hard and get about 23 to 25mpg which is acceptable), got to impress my mates, of course and the lovely young frauline next door (don't tell the wife
) and all in all just want to own one. I enjoy very much A and B roads, and would rather take these above any Motorway carpark.
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JamesC said:
OK, in the UK the full leather is standard in the 911, so you can't get the artificial leather as it's just not an option. Also, white will crucify you at resale - wrongly or rightly - unlike the states - white cars are deeply unpopular here.
In general, the base 997 won't hold its value as well as the "S", but will provide 95% of the thrills. The big question is, can you cope with the standard spec? The Cayman, in my book, is too slow and, more importantly, too bland. Too neutral.
Are you buying outright with your own cash, or are you financing?
If you're buying outright, I can understand the hard-and-fast budget, but if you're financing, then be a little flexible on the payments - even the bog standard Cayman is a hugely expensive car in absolute terms, so it must be a decision of the heart, not the head.
I'm guessing the Cayman will be a little like the Boxster. And we all know what the word "Boxster" stands for, at least in the public perception: "Can't afford a 911".
Go with the 911. You know it makes sense! It's fun, fast, quirky and completely authentic. The real deal. The full monty.
I agree on the White. I understand dark colours and Blacks are the ones to go for.
No, I'm not buying outright as it will be financed. One of the dealers suggested I purchased one of the cars (Cayman S) that they had available immediately but not quite the spec I wanted, then complete a factory order for a car spec'ed to my liking as I tend to change cars every 2 years or so.
Of course I'm made of money but I got the general opinion that Porsche dealers near to me couldn't care less whether you buy or not! I suppose I could increase the spec, but extend the finance. Might be a good idea.
I'm considering this....what do you think?
911 Carrera Pounds57,123.00
Interior colour AT Leather interior in Black Pounds1,879.00
Exterior colour Z4 Basalt Black Pounds543.00
Wheels 407 19 inch SportDesign wheel Pounds1,256.00
Exterior P74 Bi-Xenon lighting system Pounds705.00
635 ParkAssist (parking aid rear) Pounds325.00
P12 Automatically dimming interior and
exterior mirrors with integrated
rain sensor Pounds353.00
Engine 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus Pounds507.00
Interior P77 Sports seats Pounds257.00
342 Heated seats Pounds269.00
Interior Leather 435 Three-spoke sports steering wheel in
leather Pounds142.00
XSC Porsche crest embossed on head
restraints Pounds126.00
XX1 Floor mats with leather edging Pounds187.00
Audio and communication 680 BOSE Surround Sound System Pounds768.00
692 CDC-4 six disc CD autochanger Pounds348.00
Total Pounds64,856.00
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vtach88 said:
You will know once you drive them. A drive in both is usually enough for those who are "on the fence." I wasn't on the fence, but I drove the Boxster and the 997 (non-S) - and I knew immediately which one I wanted. The 997S.
Why not?
I hear what your saying, but I'm not sure the Cayman S can be directly compared to that of the Boxster, although it's supposed to be it's hard topped brother.
I need to drive drive them I guess. I am a traditionalist so the 911 is so appealing.
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997CarreraS said:
I just was at the dealer today and the new Cayman is a beautiful car. But if you can I would still by the Flagship and that is the 997. In terms of options If I had to limit myself I would by the sports exhaust, Sports Chrono and the Bose Sound system. Those are the things that make a real difference to me. How it sounds inside, out side and the throttle response. Good luck you cant go wrong no matter what you do.
I'm not far off with the spec above and appreciate your comments. This is getting exciting, my heart is palpitating just thinking about it.
