Jan 15, 2006 1:21:30 AM
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Iwanta997 said:
My reason for not getting the "S": I did not like the ride 19" wheels even with PASM, and due to increased brake size, I would not be able to switch to 18" wheels, if I wanted to.
As this is my first Porsche, I have alot to learn....and am looking forward to it.
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SVNSVN said:
I absolutely believe the non "S" folks. Why wouldn't I? They seem to have legit reasons for their choice. I can also see how someone would choose a Boxster or Cayman over a 911. If someone doesn't respect the Boxster, Cayman or non "S" 911, then they're likely ignorant or an arrogant snob. So who cares what they think!
Bottom line: choose what you want and be happy.They're all excellent. As I wrote to a fellow rennteamer- this whole, this is better argument, is like debating which super model is the most gorgeous- it's rather silly, IMO. Further, I've never been one to make my choices based on peer pressure or others perceptions- I choose what I want.
Cheers!
Jan 15, 2006 3:48:08 PM
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greggr107 said:
Why are we having this discussion? Why in the world would I think that somebody got a Carrera because they couldn't afford an 'S'... would never cross my mind, but now that it's been brought up, Carreras are expensive cars folks! I'm sure someone who can drop $75K can probably find the means for the extra $$ for the 'S'! Non-S owners have nothing to prove, the idea that they 'can't afford it' is... juvenile.
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peecarfan said:
<No one at the "S" camp will believe you (e.g."I could afford the S but got the 997 on it'sown merits instead").>
I believe them...why not ?
What i don't believe is why you feel it's ok to force anyone to defend their car choice.
what's next..do you ask for a sperate forum for C2 /4, and another for C2/4S.
<Not trying to p*ss anyone off here.>
yeah,yeah. just a bit of playful passive agressive BS to satisfy your curiosity
so, MMD tell me, when did you stop beating your wife ?
Jan 15, 2006 4:59:39 PM
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SVNSVN said:
I absolutely believe the non "S" folks. Why wouldn't I? They seem to have legit reasons for their choice. I can also see how someone would choose a Boxster or Cayman over a 911. If someone doesn't respect the Boxster, Cayman or non "S" 911, then they're likely ignorant or an arrogant snob. So who cares what they think!
Bottom line: choose what you want and be happy.They're all excellent. As I wrote to a fellow rennteamer- this whole, this is better argument, is like debating which super model is the most gorgeous- it's rather silly, IMO. Further, I've never been one to make my choices based on peer pressure or others perceptions- I choose what I want.
Cheers!
Me too! Why are we having this discussion? Why in the world would I think that somebody got a Carrera because they couldn't afford an 'S'... would never cross my mind, but now that it's been brought up, Carreras are expensive cars folks! I'm sure someone who can drop $75K can probably find the means for the extra $$ for the 'S'! Non-S owners have nothing to prove, the idea that they 'can't afford it' is... juvenile.
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Jan 17, 2006 2:33:58 AM
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69bossnine said:
This thread got alot better, as the B.S. went away, and the real tangible cost/benefit/personal-preference reasons for the decision finally floated to the surface.
My only "huh?" moment was when TommyGT said he couldn't feel much of a difference seat-of-the-pants. Well, I guess my tush must be far more sensitive, as I drove both cars, and found low-end grunt to be considerably improved with the 3.8, regardless of the minimal differences in Porsche published acceleration times, which really only tell a small part of the story, when you're considering the real-world differences of two different power curves.
But maybe that's just the difference in things we're "tuned into", him coming from a road racing background, and me from a drag-racing background.
I easily and immediately felt the power advantage, and as such, had to have it. I probably won't "use" my red brakes, but as a car nut, there's something about having the hot equipment, period, that satisfies the psyche.
I've already beaten the horse to near-death, in that it's rather irrelevant saying what you will or won't "use" on the street. I probably wouldn't come close to approaching the potential peak performance of an Enzo on the street, but is there any sane argument that the car would not be an absolute carnival-fun, barrel of monkeys, BLAST to drive, even if you're just poking and stabbing at it? Additional performance enhances the "fun factor", PERIOD. The more absurdly fast a car is, the more it delights me, in any venue. My only gripe with my old 993, was that I constantly felt like I wanted to stick my leg out the door and help it along...
For me, more power has always run directly proportional to more grins.
Is the 355 h.p. in my Carrera MORE than I'll regularly use on the street?? Puhleez.... These cars are friendly little squirts, there's not enough power in either model to bite you. The Z06 sure would be attractive, if it weren't for the rest of the ugly and ill-built car surrounding that magnificent engine!
Porsche gets me in the details, and the overall driving experience. But if I was shopping purely on power, I'd never walk into a P dealership, which real just underscores the point that everybody here has chosen their car for personal and wide-ranging reasons.
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Jan 17, 2006 10:00:01 PM
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TommyGT said:
69 bossnine, I'm with you 100%. Not the same game as when we were 20. I'm currently about 50 miles west of Chicago in farm country. My biggest fear is a deer running out in front of me. What about little things like pot holes...no thanks. When I was 18 I bought a 1965 Vette. I asked the owner if he ever raced it (hey I was a kid), he opened his garage where he had a circle track car and simple said 'No, I don't need to". Didn't understand it then but I do now. Bossnine...ie 429? Sweet!
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